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The Old and Overgrown DOC thread (fixed)

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Talking about "breakthrough's"....

I think there are probably a few DOC specific breakthrough - like experiences, but this is from a post i made earlier in the thread.. about the TIME LOOP!! I've seen it, and I want to go into it someday when I get a chance and some time with a high dose.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=3780117&postcount=253

I mean what she described, to me sounded similar to some people's k-hole trips where you can create your own reality, but only SUPER VIVID AND CLEAR. Her mind was mentally filling in "lego blocks" just from *memory alone* walking through the house - there was no more input from the outside world because the fractal vortex/tornado thingiedo fell in on itself and the last 1/2 second just kept repeating over and over.. but you can still move :)..
 
well, thanks for the replies, but i think you missed the point of my question. i guess what i want is more or less a profile.

here's a kind of example for 2C-E. obviously, everyone's not going to agree fully with this, and this isn't consistant with every experience. but its a general outline of basic effects one may reach with a target dose range.

2C-E

5-10mg
energy and mood enhancement
enhanced theoretical thought abilities
visual acuteness and brightening
possible dry mouth

10-12mg
slight depersonalization
empathy
feeling of connection to all other existence
visual brightening and slight bulging/warping effect
discoordination
euphoria
jaw clenching
restlessness

15-20 mg
deep philosophical thought cycles
strong perspective shifting
melting/warping/bulging of vision
cyclic thought processes
possible dissociation
euphoria
jaw clenching/neck stiffness
-at this level, it begins to get the ability to "get wierd"
very strong CEV's

20+mg
cosmic consciousness

my experiences with DOC are pretty limited but...

DOC

250 ug
brightening of visual field
enhanced energy
slight dryness of the mouth
mild euphoria

1.25 mg
euphoria
comfortable, warm body energy
"graininess" of vision
increased perception of colors
CEV's
mild perspective-shifting
confusion can be induced without much effort

if anyone would like to go into greater depth, it may be an interesting read
 
NOW GAU THIS, NOW GAU THIS:

EATING oh say, 5 miligaus of DOC may or may not be hazardous to your health.

-Surgeon Gaunaral.

EDIT: That should have said 4 milligrams, sorry for the confusion. And for further clarification, in the interest of harm reduction and all, KNOW what you're getting yourself into with these types of things. A 12-18 hour trip sounds fun *IN THEORY*. But in actuality, your brain will be screaming something fierce at time +12:00. Ahem.
 
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I read through the Big & Dandy DOC thread, and there were a few people that said DOC made them vomit.

Dextermeth: "and i vomitted right around the 2.25hr after ingestion mark"

Bluedolphin reports a friend: "and one person projectile vomited for a couple minutes"

That's really about all I read about this happening. Vomiting is not too pleasant, and most people would like to avoid it if possible.

I guess there's not too much experimentation done on this drug, so I wasn't really expecting many answers. But if anyone has anything to say about it (the vomiting), I'd appreciate it!
 
Jaw Clenching said:
I highly recommend taking DOC on a full stomach, the nausea is non-existent and it does not reduce the intensity or duration of the trip at all.
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Thanks!

I was hoping this would be the response! :D
 
When i fasted before taking doc i was violently sick several times and felt VERY weak for the next hour or so as i was starting to peak could of been a bad time then it all turned for the better. Defintely best to consume after food
 
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4- halo amphetamines I'd reckon (DOB & DOI). It might seem overcautious to some, but I'd hate to find myself gasping for breath during a 16 hour trip - how to scare the shit out of yourself
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this was why i felt somewhat safe pushing the envelope so high... since i already had good experience with DOI at 12mg a handful of times.
 
KuroSenritsu said:
in the interest of harm reduction and all, KNOW what you're getting yourself into with these types of things. A 12-18 hour trip sounds fun *IN THEORY*. But in actuality, your brain will be screaming something fierce at time +12:00. Ahem.
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Yes I kind of go along with that one. I recall in the early eighties being sold some *LSD* blotter, I took two and didn't get to sleep till 48 hours later, which was a good 36 hours longer than my ideal scenario. Very frustrating lying staring at a ceiling still twinkling occassionally with blue/greens and thinking "fucking hell! how much longer " as sweat literally drips from you, rather vile all in all!

zophen
 
i puked on my one experience with DOC. I took it on an empty stomach.
Ill try eating a lite meal next time and see what happens.
 
i ate Doc on an empty stomach and puked violently. it was very unpleasant. doc was the only rc that made me puke.beside 5meoamt which made me dry heave.

eat it on a full stamch. it will be better
and if that doesnt work and it still makes you sick then maybe injest the chemical over a longer period of time
 
^^^hmmm yes. i have done Dob blotter and Doc. both compounds tend to last about 10 hours longer on me than any other person i know. With all other psychedelics i have done i my trip is as long as other people. But with Dob and especially Doc i trip for a long long time. I actually Trip for about 12-15 hours but have lasting effects like random visuals and cant sleep for 30-40 hours. last time i did Doc is was an awesome trip but i wanted to slepp after a while. my mindset and trip ended but i was up all night and the next day still high and awake. Both time i had to go to work(hehe quite an experence) . just realize that every chemical effects everyone different. just because you have a high tolerence for some rc's doesnt mean you are a hard head with all. start low and build up.

peace
 
^^^

Because if you take psychedelics for any sort of personal growth then being foggy and fuzzy afterwards isn't going to help you integrate the experience. And if you have anything of an addictive personality you are reinforcing an unhealthy coping mechanism by reaching for a sedative to chill.
 
I know I should ustfse or read this thread but has anyone just taken 1mg and been happy? I mean I tried 3mg on my first go at DOC and was very happy, but soooo long lasting. I would think I was ok then BLAM I start getting slight visuals again, also I noticed I was getting a few slight tremors (chills) after 17 hours or so, but could that been from lackof sleep, I had to work the prior day and was a bit tired and didn't have a good sleep. Maybe I need to try it after a good sleep
 
I didn't eat about 6 hours before doc and I was ok Idid get slight nausea but I didn't vomit, I ate food around the 12 hour point of the experience
 
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