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The Old and Overgrown DOC thread (fixed)

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Fasting for several hours before hand, and then chewing ginger root and smoking cannabis do releave nausea to some degree. Just take it easy on the pot, as it can greatly intensify the effects. Often I find just one hit, much less than what I'd need to get stoned, will fix nausea without making me too high from the pot.
 
DexterMeth said:
tranquilizers.
you love the trip. but the length is annoying. why not a while after peaking, make it foggy, fuzzy and warm ?
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morninggloryseed said:
Fasting for several hours before hand, and then chewing ginger root and smoking cannabis do releave nausea to some degree. Just take it easy on the pot, as it can greatly intensify the effects. Often I find just one hit, much less than what I'd need to get stoned, will fix nausea without making me too high from the pot.
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Yea, well I have quit smoking bud. I need to pass a test for a job.
 
yeah, one milli will do you well. me and a buddy got a real nice +2 1/2. no real visuals to speak of, but we were definitely in a trip. the day wasn't good, though, i was becoming sick and the environment was, well, bleh. the trip basically consisted of an empty feeling of dullness until we boosted with about 20 mg of 2C-I.
 
2C Extraordinary said:
me and a buddy got a real nice +2 1/2. no real visuals to speak of, but we were definitely in a trip.
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really? everybody is claiming this too be even more visual than LSD! that is pretty odd. are you sure it was DOC?
 
Ok what I want to know, what causes visuals, this was the first experience I had ever had with such extreme non stop visuals. Btw funny thing every time I went to use the bathroom smoke was rising from the floor! The visual effects seemd to grow stronger as the trip went on, I had this feeling that the earth was moving and I could actually see it kind of like a earthquake. I am wanting to try a 1mg dose but im afraid it will fall short of what I really want. seeing that I went up to 3 on the first try.
 
i dosed one night of DOC on white blotter.
and it was absolutly amazing.
the next night, took same amount again.
nothing.
any idea how fast of a tolerance you can build up?
 
Absolutely nothing from the same amount the next day sounds like far more tolerance than other people here have reported - I suspect that it didn't get evenly disrtibuted on the blotter or something.
 
i dropped the last hit of the same blotter last night.
tasted a tiny bit of something on the the blotter.
still, not trip.
well, it was a fun first time expierience, but im guessing it is too powerful of a psychedelic to be taken within this short of a timeline.
maybe someday in the future ill redose.
but as far as im concerned, i wont waste my time with this anytime soon.
i just wish i knew how it was going to effect me the first time so i could utilize that trip into something positive like art or something instead of just watching fear and loathing in las vegas and playing gta sa.
 
Ok I know this may not be DOC related, but I have noticed after my first DOC experience I did get some tintinus<spelling while on the chemical. but I still seem to be getting a tightness in my jaw on occasion (clenching my teeth while sober) could this be a side affect from my experience? Also the other night I had a dream about me injesting DOC again and I felt paralized in a very strange way I woke up scared out of my mind. But what I kept telling myself to calm down was "it could be a side affect" it will pass? I hope this makes some sense.
 
wait, so it's wrong to take tranqs for a bad comedown when you really need to sleep? Even if you only trip like once every couple of months, and the tranqs are used just for a comedown? I dont get how this takes away from the experience. If you like to suffer through the tail end of your trips, then be my guest, and bash this method all you want. You're more enlightened if you willingly suffer, right?
 
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Never said it was wrong, just that for me its undesirable. With most psychedelics that aren't too stimulating I don't need them and I find its way better to integrate the experience I just went through with a clear head. I personally don't want to follow up my mind expanding drug experiences with mind constricting drugs. If you want to dull your mind out after your trip with benzos, opiates, anti-psychotics, etc, go right ahead.
 
I'm 100% with Glog on this one. I feel that "coming down" is part + parcel of the experience, and that it is an important time of integration. If any true personal growth is to be achieved, then via the comedown, looked at and experienced naked and fully oneself, imho.

Having said that, I do use alcohol, Ghb, or low-dose benzos on comedowns from time to time. Either because the next day requires me to be alert and sleep is deemed necessary - or because I simply have no desire to deal with what's happening inside me after the few hours of intense insights and "de-patterning". As old patterns gradually creep back into my thought processes I tend to get disappointed and choose a coping ritual....

I am fully aware that this is ABUSE rather than USE of psychedelics, but then I have found that sometimes it's best to be forgiving to oneself and not push it too far all at once. I have done vipassana meditation retreats in the past, and so I know I would be able to ride it out if I wanted to. I just get so undisciplined and let me addictive side take over in order to getsome instant comfort that requires no special effort or perseverance from me.

Still, makes me feel like a cheat now and then... But then i tell myself there's nothing wrong with using the psychedelics for recreational purposes. This 'feeling like a cheat' if I give in to the need to escape from How I Feel is also the reason I gave up on prescription antidepressants a long time ago.

My attraction to psychedelics is also totally contradictory - on the one hand Ifind it truly pleasurable to be "baked" . . . on the other, I feel that most times I come out a changed person, I almost always take something valuable with me... and these insights are never 100% comfortable for me at first . . . why do we want to go on the Ghost Ride at the Fun fair? Why do we want to go on the Roller Coaster? ;)
 
I agree in principle but with having the kids and all the family hoohah to deal with I find it preferable to knock myself out for two or so hours withn GBL just so's to be a bit more tolerant instead of groaning as they cheerfully yell at each other and constantly demand that I referee their endless disagreements.
It can be very wearing on the nerve ends when feeling a bit fragile, so please forgive my obvious heresy.



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I too agree with Glogga. I also understand all the reasons people have given for using downers to abort. I personally don't even keep them around for the bad experiences. If I have something to do that requires I sleep for 7 or 8 hours, then I do not injest anything that would prohibit my normal sleep cycle.

One of the very first posts I read on BL which helped me choose to come back was somebody said they don't make time to trip, it just happens that the time to trip is there. I try to live my whole life with that simple reguard: when something needs to happen- the time will be there to do it. Again, I am fully aware that what I think and my opinion do not apply to all consciousnesses.
 
well, i will be researching some more DOC soon hopefully. this time id like to give it a go with some MDMA. any thoughts? anyone whos actually done it? let me know thanks.
 
i've done DOI and DOC enough times to where i dont feel like im losing anything from the experiece just because i dont feel like staying up at a plus .01 for 20 hours. that's fucking retarded.. especially when you have obligations to fulfill and rarely have enough time to stay up even 2 days in a row. im also not going to try to argue my point any more, cause it seems pointless here.

PS - wtf is there left to integrate? smoke some 5-meo-dmt and integrate that with a hit of n20. :D ok srry.
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I dont know if you remembered me talking about how my DOC experience was utter shit with around 2mg on blotter....Well I ended up taking 1 and 1/2 blotters this time and had a total fucking blast :) I didnt have delusional voices this time or any other toxic symptoms so I think my set and setting was horrid or I was in the wrong state of mind (I work retail...I dosed my first time during holiday shopping season.. :() Also I had my my girl tripping with me which made things 10x better. So my conclusion is that this stuff is either definately random or I definately underdosed my first time.
Also note that around 9+ hours I dosed 2mg of xanax too kill the trip so me and my girlfriend could sleep. 2mg of xanax did not enable me too sleep at all. 2mg usually eases my mindset into a nice slumber but not this time on this psychedelic. I have seroquel on hand....I think they are 300mg tablets. Would taking 1/3 of this pill kill a trip...taken alongside maybe 2-3mg of xanax? It is a anti-psychotic....I wonder if this would be my magical sleepy time combo.

Anybody else have experience with seroquel? Any other tips for achieving the badly needed slumber after the magic has died down?
 
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