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The Old and Overgrown DOC thread (fixed)

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Illuminati Boy: you forgot 9mg in that list. I have a 9 mg report posted on here and erowid. I have also done 11 mg.

btw I wasnt done for good at 15mg, last weekend I tripped as well (20mg 2C-E mixed with 20mg 2C-I) That last one will be the end of my tripping days for a while at least. Need to focus on more important issues in life and psychs will just take up my time needed for it.
 
Data correction...

You are indeed correct about the 9 mg. one:

psychicpsycho said:
I have been around people on 9mg of DOC and none were able to tell.
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I must have read that sentence a bit quick as “I have been around people on 9 mg. of DOC.” (i.e. someone else reportedly took 9 mg.)

As for the 11 mg. it was not in this thread… may have been in a TR, split off, or implied here:

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...I have had them on 4 of 5 experiences ranging from 5-15mg. .
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but not specifically mentioned.

My calculations will be adjusted accordingly. I am human and going through a 800+ post thread am bound to have an error rate. But even if it is treated as a random sample, the data should give a good overview of the thread.

I B

PS Also note the early 'possibly 2C-I' reports were excluded.
 
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StuckMojo said:
Anybody else have experience with seroquel? Any other tips for achieving the badly needed slumber after the magic has died down?
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Pretty much any atypical antipsychotic (except for maybe Abilify which is a weirdo), should usually result in a rapid comedown. Seroquel would be no different. 300 mg. would probably knock most people out on its own… added with a benzo like lorazepam or temazepam there is little doubt that you would be off the sleepy land. Unless you were on say these doses already… then the effect should not be as pronounced.

That would be my guess anyway.

I B

PS one knows someone who specifically keeps both Seroquel and Ativan around for such eventualities. Some others may prefer Risperdal M-Tabs or Zyprexa Zydis as they usually hit real quick. Just whatever you do, don’t take fucking clozapine / clozaril that shit can kill you!
 
Iluminati....that must of taken a long time. nice good and thx.
StuckMojo said:
Anybody else have experience with seroquel? Any other tips for achieving the badly needed slumber after the magic has died down?
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this is what i was ttalking about in my last couple posts. but others on here tell me i am losing out on the magic and not fully/correctly integrating the experience. fucking BS.

seroquel. yes i've dosed up to 1000mg after tripping on DOC for 15hours. i personally dont see a point in staying at a futile +.01 for 10-15 more hours when i have been in that same spot a dozen times at least...1000mg didnt even get me to sleep for another 10 hours...but i had a major tolerance at the time to Sero. Yeah seroquel will really help.. it will alieviate your body of all that annoying tingling sensations that no one has a need to "integrate" into their lives. There is nothing you will learn from them other than how to get rid of them if you want to continue to use DOC.

I cant's give you an accurate dose for seroquel, cause everyone is different. start low and work up if needed. by low i mean 25mg.

alcohol helps, obviously, but the best would be benzos/opiates imo.
i guess any sleep aid is worth a shot though.
be safe, be conservative (blahahah) and have fun.
 
i've done DOI and DOC enough times to where i dont feel like im losing anything from the experiece just because i dont feel like staying up at a plus .01 for 20 hours. that's fucking retarded..
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but others on here tell me i am losing out on the magic and not fully/correctly integrating the experience. fucking BS.
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You don't need to curse at me, do you? You have your reasons for your choices and I have my reasons for mine.

wtf is there left to integrate?
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I want to reflect on the insights and deeper personal feelings that I experienced on the psychedelic with a relatively sober mind while they are still fresh in my short term memory. And then I want to have a healthy sleep, not a drug induced one. It is when we sleep that learning is imprinted in our brains, so I want a clean one. Hence, I usually just find a way to keep my self busy or occupied untill the drug has completely worn off and I can sleep naturaly.

especially when you have obligations to fulfill and rarely have enough time to stay up even 2 days in a row.
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There's a reason many people prefer shorter lasting psychedelics than DOI and DOC.
 
^I kind of agree with both of you, in an ideal world I'd go with glogs choice , in the real world I usually go with dexs choice, needs must.
I wouldn't recommend a first timer to take the easy route though, coz I feel that it is important to actually know what it is you're missing, mind you if it was the awful DOC I might make an exception.

zophen
 
I used DOC heavily over the course of several weeks up until about two weeks ago, and then stopped.

I've noticed some legitimate flashback effects starting yesterday morning, and continuing through till now, though extremely mild. Just basic light manipulation and seeing some shadows that weren't there.

I will write up a formal post if you think it would be worthwhile.


My dosing was definitely abuse and not use, unfortunately. I did it multiple days in a row on two occasions (I am aware of the stupidity of this, please do not flame me for it.) I dosed up to 10mg at a time, though my tolerance had risen substantially at that point.
 
Zippycut said:
I used DOC heavily over the course of several weeks up until about two weeks ago, and then stopped.

I've noticed some legitimate flashback effects starting yesterday morning, and continuing through till now, though extremely mild. Just basic light manipulation and seeing some shadows that weren't there.

I will write up a formal post if you think it would be worthwhile.


My dosing was definitely abuse and not use, unfortunately. I did it multiple days in a row on two occasions (I am aware of the stupidity of this, please do not flame me for it.) I dosed up to 10mg at a time, though my tolerance had risen substantially at that point.
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i havent noticed the light changes but shadows in the corner of my eye while im at work and home. strange.
 
Do comment on the flashback effects zippycut, if you get a chance.

I'm not suprised that you'd get some sort of lingering effect like that from dosing multiple days in a row on and off for a couple weeks.

Were you basically tripping for 3 days straight, or was it more spaced out than that?
 
Of course you're gonna notice residual effects offa doses that big, they may not even be totally out of your system, and your brain certainly hasnt had a chance to readjust.

Talk about it again in a month and a half, then you'll be able to tell if you have any real, lasting effects.
 
well, im researching right now by mistake. i recieved some in the mail and i was splitting it up with a friend when some got on my finger, i tried to get most of it off but i ended up licking my finger and im starting to trip now. the shitty part is i have to go to work in 3 hours. Ill probably be peaking there. The shitty part is i dont just have a boost i have some visuals. colors and patterns. ruff.
 
jesus.

you guys really ought to be wearing gloves, side-sheild glasses/goggles, and a dust mask when you are handling these chemicals. you can easily get a dose under your fingernail or accidentally flick one into your eye or other mucous membranes. If you're chopping stuff up, it can sometimes skitter all over the goddamn place when you hit a solid chunklet.
 
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well, im researching right now by mistake. i recieved some in the mail and i was splitting it up with a friend when some got on my finger, i tried to get most of it off but i ended up licking my finger and im starting to trip now. the shitty part is i have to go to work in 3 hours. Ill probably be peaking there. The shitty part is i dont just have a boost i have some visuals. colors and patterns. ruff.
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Sorry to resort to name calling, but you are truely a dumbass. You lick DOC off your finger, knowing you have to be a work? And you do realize that 2C-T-21 (a much less potent chemical) killed a guy who just licked some?
 
Licking an unknown amount of an ultra-potent chemical before work is not RESEARCHING, it is abusing. I'm so sick of the pretentious misuse of that word.
 
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djfriendly said:
Licking an unknown amount of an ultra-potent chemical before work is not RESEARCHING.
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hmmm. what about during work? i guess it all could depend on your line of work, as my lab rats would say if they could talk... ;-)

um, GreenBarts, how's work flowin? or did you end up 'calling in well'?
 
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work was great, had a good mood boost. now the real fun begins 5mg snorted. nice hot shower. nice distortion already. i guess i truly am a dumbass. whatever people are always going to hate i suppose.
 
heres my research based on the past few weeks.
1 1/2 mg per dose.

active at .75mg(felt like rolling with acid head buzz, 8-12 hour duration).
1.5 mg allowed a +++ with a breakthrough on one person
2.3 mg provided between a ++ and a +++, with a very cosmic mental experience for one
3mg sent most people into a state of utter insanity(or bliss)
4.5 mg(by 2 people so far) was "the most intense experience I've ever had".

a few people had threshold effects even at 3mg, that only lasted 3 hours.

there is definately a distinct difference in everyone's perfect dose size. for myself, I'd never try more than 3mg.

compared to a recent lsd experience, I prefer doc. I may be in the minority. but I prefer the mental effects, lsd felt very "quiet" mentally.
 
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