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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

this "neutral" feeling is worrying me. does it mean that you aren't fully implicated in the experience ? you look at it from an external point of view ?
can somebody explain precisely (if it's possible) this neutral feeling ?

do you see that as a good thing ?
 
I can't speak for Mr. Mason, but I too have experienced a neutralness with 2C-E. I think what he means is that the chemical does not move on in any particular direction. It is not happy in nature like 2C-B and 2C-T-7 can be. It is not difficult and somewhat dark like many report DPT and 4-Ho-DET to be. 2C-E does not push one in any emotional direction, hence the "neutral" term applied to it.
 
Now that I've got a pretty good number of 2-CE experiences under my belt, I figured I would let everyone know what I think.

In the beginning I was trying to get familiar with the effects and not really try to get anything out of it. I wanted it to start and end quickly, so I was snorting 3-7 mg at a time, probably mostly towards the lower end of 3-5. I would call the low doses "psychedelic coke" because it REALLY gave me that pick-me-up but with a little bit of head games.

After familiarizing myself with it I moved up to snorting at about 8 mg (for duration) and I was getting a little disappointed. It was basically more of the same.

One day I tried smoking it at low doses out of a vaporizor with good effects that set in IMMEDIATELY and wore off within 2 hours. Dose was probably about 5 mg.

So one day I thought "Well, I guess it's now or never," and I took 15 mg orally (my first time swallowing it). As others have noted it took fucking forever to kick in and I almost took another 8 mg (thank Benny Hinn I didn't!) At about 3 hours I felt VERY much like my only high dose acid trip (3 blotters, I have no idea what the potency was).

I basically just sat there and let my...uh...soul? maybe? pick my brain apart. Everything looked very bright and shimmery and was very pretty. I didn't have any kind of actual hallucinations, which I found to be very good because they tend to get in the way of the good stuff that drugs like DPT have given me.

On another occasion I took 12 mg orally with some friends and I found it to be suprisingly social and very enjoyable. I hallucinated some at this lower level, but it was all fun and jovial.

Overall, I give 2-CE a big thumbs up.

Not Guilty and Proud,

Daniel Huth
 
snorting 2c-e

I wanna give this a shot to try and avoid some of the 2 hr wait I always get before I get any affects. Anyone have any info. I suppose <10mg would be best. I already read all the reports on erowid and searched here...
 
PEA's burn like fucking hell up the nostrils. Also significantly (reported to be 3x, cant verify) more powerful. Be very careful and start as low as possible. Also have lots of water nearby, you'll be crying and on the floor clutching your face from the pain.
 
Thanks all but i wasn't looking for warnings, i want real experiences. Mainly what doses have people tried and their affects and such. btw thanks mod for moving my thread.
 
It hurts REALLY BAD and is not as fun as the oral method, IMO. Personally, I like that delayed onset. Being taken by surprise at the three hour mark by the trip suddenly kicking into high gear after I'd almost forgotten about it, is maybe my favorite thing about 2C-E.

If you want a quicker onset, use a different chem (that's my $.02).
 
yes, if you want quick and powerful, try eating iprocin. It hit me and friends in less than hour. It is quite a voyage and you're down in five hours.
 
Agreed. I wouldn't want 2c-e to come up earlier than 1:30 - 2 hours. Once the effects begin to kick in, it can be quite overwhelming at times at doess of 20mg and up.
 
I've snorted this chem before and don't find it too bad. The burn is bad - but not as bad as other phens I can think of (2c-i and 2C-T-2).

The come up takes about 45mins starting with stimulation and euphoria and blossoming into visuals at about the 40 minute mark.

Very economical too (about 1/3 of standard dosage required).

However normal warnings apply:- make sure you measure properly and drop dose to maximum of 1/3 normal dose.
 
My reccomendations if you are snorting are to stick whatever tube or rolled up piece of paper you're using VERY far up your nose. If any of this chemical sits on the inside of your nose the flesh will slowly melt away leaving you with a gaping hole in the middle of your head...metaphorically.

Personally, I've found snorting 2-ce to be more "fun" and swallowing it to be more "experience". In my first post I reffered to snorting it as "psychedelic coke" and I still hold to that. I find the visuals to be weak and the duration to be pretty lame. Also, you don't really know what you're going to get when you snort it because 2 or 3 mg might get stuck in your nose hairs leaving you in an uncomfortable psychedelic limbo of "being high, but not high enough". Overall, I guess you could say it's "economical" to snort it, but the pain and the decreased effects really don't hold a candle to oral ingestion.

Maybe I'll shoot it in my veins one day soon and see how that goes.

I'M FUCKING KIDDING.

Not Guilty and Proud,

Daniel Huth
 
Yes, I have had good auditory hallucinations on 2C-E. The longer I use psychedelics the more I come to appreciate auditory elements as much or more than visual elements. They're more subconscious most of the time, but if you think about it sound is almost always a part of a good trip.
 
2 CE ALMOST AS HEAVY AS ACID

soooooooo , from what I've been reading here, 2 CE is almost as heavy as acid.
And it has a very steep response curve, savy?
A great big thanks to all of you psyconauts who have posted ,all those brave and daring boys and girls who voyaged to another place.
Thanks for the map...I know ..the map IS NOT the teritory.:) =D =D =D
 
^^^^^^^^^

I always considered "heavy" in reference to psychedelic intensity. In which case I agree...2C-E is the heaviest oral psychedelic I've taken, next to LSD. Only smoked/IMed tryptamines like DMT, DPT and 5-MeO-DMT are stronger.
 
2c-e is my favorite phenethylamine. 60-70mg orally with a group of friends equals complete chaos and is really a lot of fun. 2c-e or "kerf" as the homies know it loses it's edge the more you try it, as anything, but i think everyone who's interested should give it a try. it's way more visual than 2c-i and more manageable than 2c-p. all three together is an intriguing compilation as well..
 
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