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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

It always takes a really, really long time. 2.5 hours on an empty stomach, at least. Long slow come-up, but then I often feel the peak VERY distinctly, it's like a volume dial suddenly being turned from 4 to 8 or something around 3-4 hour mark. I've never experienced this effects curve with any other chem.
 
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I already made a post about this. A fluffy batch has been tested and confirmed to be 2C-E with no noted impurities.link
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That was one batch, over a year ago. I can tell from looking that different batches have been produced that what came out over a year ago, and are being circulated. I've managed to get small samples of "fluffy" 2C-E from a few places well after that. It is these samples I am interested in getting tested.

I should also point out that I don't disount that the "fluffy" 2C-E is just fine, and individual body chemistry, bad weighing techniques, and other issues may be what casues the varying results heard with 2C-T-7. I've only tried one batch of 2C-E, so I have no personal experience beyond this one lot, which is quite good. However, I have had friends of mine sample the good lot I am familiar with, and then some of these "fluffy" 2C-Es and a few noted potency differences.

But I do still feel that set and setting can be factors here, and I still won't take any side until I both try a "fluffy" lot of 2C-E myself, and see the results of GC/MS analysis.
 
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I don't know what side there is to take. I mean if you test your "fluffy" 2c-e and its not pure, that doesn't imply anything about anyone elses 2c-e unless ones knows for sure its the same exact batch. Hell, if I just say online my 2c-e is "fluffy" and you say online your 2c-e is "fluffy", it doesn't mean your 2c-e isn't ten times more "fluffy" than my 2c-e. I mean we havn't any objective measurement system for "fluffyness".

So test your sample, and let us know. Whatever the results, good for you that you found out. But lets avoid having rumors about the quality of 2c-e on the market (which we shouldn't be discussing anyways) based on just one or a few samples :)
 
I've got four samples to test, and I will make the results and printouts available. I'm not sure what rumors you are talking about, as I've taken no sides on anything regarding 2C-E other than it is a damn good psychedelic.
 
Iso, I no longer communicate with him so I can't ask, but do you know first hand that Murple tested a batch of 2C-E that was significantly fluffier than the other?
 
Okay... finally! I will be sampling 2C-E within the next week, and I have a question about the two supposedly different "batches" of 2C-E that are currently in circulation.

Is there any way for me to know if I have gotten some of the "fluffy", less potent batch? Is there a noticeable color difference? Obviously I won't have any of the "regular" quality 2C-E to compare it to, IF I get the fluffy kind. Conversely, is there a way of knowing if I got the quality stuff? I'm guessing there is not, but I figured I would ask anyway...

Oh and also, if anyone has sampled both batches, how potent would you estimate the fluffy stuff is compared to the quality batch? 75% as potent? 60%?

Anyone?
 
john mason said:
Okay... finally! I will be sampling 2C-E within the next week, and I have a question about the two supposedly different "batches" of 2C-E that are currently in circulation.

Is there any way for me to know if I have gotten some of the "fluffy", less potent batch? Is there a noticeable color difference? Obviously I won't have any of the "regular" quality 2C-E to compare it to, IF I get the fluffy kind. Conversely, is there a way of knowing if I got the quality stuff? I'm guessing there is not, but I figured I would ask anyway...

Oh and also, if anyone has sampled both batches, how potent would you estimate the fluffy stuff is compared to the quality batch? 75% as potent? 60%?

Anyone?
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You are incorrectly assuming that there are specific "batches" of either fluffy or non-fluffy 2ce. You also seemed to miss the numerous posts stating that one particular batch of fluffy 2ce was tested to be over 98% pure, so I would say that a majority of the claims that the flufy 2ce is less "potent" are misinformed.
To tell whether or not you have "fluffy" 2ce is pretty simple. Normally, most peas (such as 2ci and most batches of 2ce) come as a powder closely resembling flour in terms of consistancy and "clumpiness" (its ability to form fine little clumps). However, the "fluffy" 2ce I had was like cotten candy. Only 500 mg managed to completely fill a jewl baggie to the brim, and 15 mg of the uncompressed material had to be put in large GNC pillcaps. You will know it when you see it, because it will look like no chemical you have ever seen.
None of this really matters anyway. I got equally floored from my fluffy 2ce as I did from my "normal" 2ce, the only difference being what size pills I had to buy for them.
 
is 2c-e really different in term of category of effects than 2c-i ?

2c-i was a little deceiving by it's non-profound and not really psychedelic nature (beside the visuals, what's psychedelic with this material ?).
can someone decribe the difference (from the effects point of view) between these two compounds ?
i mean, having already taken 2c-i, i will be surprised if i take a trip of 2c-e ?
 
I don't know how to put it into words. There are no words to describe the differences. And the more you try to describe it, the farther away you get from it. But 2C-E made 2C-I look like a child's toy. 2C-I was nice, warm, and lighthearted. 2C-E was very serious in nature and very complex. 2C-I was not a complex experience. Not that 2C-I never gave me incredible experiences...I did have them. But they are dwarfed by the profundity of the 2C-E experience.

Now I sound like I'm hyping 2C-E. I don't mean to. That's just what it did for me. YMMV.
 
i like the verb "dwarfed" :) that's kind of "word's evolution" are only possible in english .
since i find the complex experience really more beneficial, that's what i needed to heard. when i compare 2c-i to a strong mushroom trip (the only thing to which i can compare it), it's already a child toy.
 
Calling 2C-I a child's toy would be giving it too much credit. (I think the shit is worthless)

Anyway, I'll be trying 17-18mg of 2C-E tonight. Never done it before. Wish me luck. :D

I'm pretty excited about it, given the nature of discussion on 2C-E around here.
 
Good luck!

But don't you think 17-18mgs is a lot for this chem? I did 10mgs my first time and it blew me away!
 
john mason said:
Calling 2C-I a child's toy would be giving it too much credit. (I think the shit is worthless)
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I've been lucky. Yes, 2C-I is lighthearted in nature. But still worthwhile in my opinion. Once 2C-I helped me get to a plus-four transcendental state that forever changed my life and will one day save another person's life one day. And many times, I took it with my girlfriend and had some moments of oneness and empathy that beat anything MDMA can do. And other times, I've taken it with friends and had insightful and beautiful experiences hiking in the mountains and talking. Again, great empathy with 2C-I. I gave up 2C-I though because of the headaches it gave me many of the times I took it. Wasn't worth it anymore when I discovered 2C-B, 2C-D, and 2C-E. But I was happy with 2C-I when I did take it.

But don't you think 17-18mgs is a lot for this chem? I did 10mgs my first time and it blew me away!
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I'd agree for many it may well be. Being used to 2C-I, and thinking 2C-E was of similar potency, I took 16mg of 2C-E my first time. This is my usual dose for 2C-I and I wasn't expecting much more from the 2C-E. Well, I ended up being BLOWN AWAY HARD. Easily comparable to 250ug of LSD, but completely clear-headed. But man it was so damn strong, I had flat-out hallucinations at one point. Not making that up! Had I not been very used to extreme psychedelic states, I could have freaked out easily at many different points. But I've tripped very hard many times before and was able to take it.

But for someone new to psychedelics, I think 10mg of 2C-E is prolly more than enough. I know a few folks who get an enjoyable sparkle from 2C-E at just the 4mg or so level. I never tried less than 16mg yet, but I bet I'd feel a lot from 4mg. 2C-E really gets me deep. Potent stuff (for most people) but YMMV. Still, always wise to go up slowly.
 
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Thanks for the advice. While I am not exactly "new" to psychedelics, I may go with a lower dosage just to ere on the safe side. I've had high dose experiences on DPT, mushrooms, DXM, broken through on Salvia, etc... so you could say I am familiar with extreme psychedelic states.

I'm a bit of a hardhead with 2C-I as well, which is why I was going to try a slightly higher dose than is reccommended with 2C-E, since I think I am naturally more tolerant to the phenethylamines than most people. However, I might go with 16mg anyway just to be safe.
 
john mason said:
I'm a bit of a hardhead with 2C-I as well, which is why I was going to try a slightly higher dose than is reccommended with 2C-E, since I think I am naturally more tolerant to the phenethylamines than most people
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Don't make assumptions like this.. I can take as much as 500 mg + of MDMA and be fine, while I do have trouble with 2C-I being a bit too potent for my liking, 12 mg for me was a bit too much.

Just start out low, you can always work your way up..
 
john mason said:
I'm a bit of a hardhead with 2C-I as well, which is why I was going to try a slightly higher dose than is reccommended with 2C-E, since I think I am naturally more tolerant to the phenethylamines than most people. However, I might go with 16mg anyway just to be safe.
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How you react to 2C-I means nothing. I am a softie with 2C-I (I only need 16mg) but I need a good 30mg of 2C-B and a good 35mg or more of 2C-T-7. Some people find 20mg of 2C-B plenty, but I think it's boring and wasteful. Some people find 10mg of 2C-T-7 enough for a plus-three, but 10mg of 2C-T-7 only gives me a body-buzz and color enhancement. No real psychedelic mental effects. How you react to 2C-I has nothing to do with how you will react to 2C-E.

I will say that 20mg of 2C-E was twice as intense as 16mg. This drug has a STEEP dose/response curve. 20mg of 2C-E blew me away harder than any oral psychedelic spare one LSD trip. 2C-E is something you need to have patience with and work up slowly. What harm is there in being smart and cautious? Had I not been with my best friend safe on that mountain when I took 20mg, I could have really gotten into some trouble. Nothing outside of DMT/5-MeO-DMT really ever made me trip that hard except one 500ug LSD trip. It was a growing experience. After it, I really felt like I went through some heavy duty shit and never looked at life the same. Be careful and be smart with 2C-E.
 
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Well, I did it. Coming down now. I took the 18mg... I wasn't really blown away or anything, but I was quite satisfied with the effects of 2C-E. I think next time I would try 23-24mg. It has a very "neutral" character to it.

Will post more when I'm at work
 
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