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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

Oh shit piper,please don't talk about it like that!!;):)

My personal situation doesn't allow to sample my own 2c-e:(.....but damn,if was possible to enhance my anticipation antmore you just did it!!
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peace
 
Oh,and Blue Dolphin if i'm not using 2c-i at high dose for emotional value(20mg+),well all i get from it is awsome euphoria(music appreciation...yum)and a geberal good feeling,oh and a crispness to my visual field(at about 14-16mg) anything below 12mg just makes me ferel shitty:(
 
Blue Dolphin, like I said, it carries a general feeling of a Phenethylamine. There are definitely many similarities. However, the depth and mind "twirl" was way beyond that of 2C-i, and so were the visuals. Earlier, I had asked what would be the lowest dose to produce a full blown psychedelic experience. 12mgs was definitely enough for a first time. I was far gone. However, I had a great time, though I wouldn't consider this to be recreational. There seemed to be a strong euphoria with it, and I have had this with 2C-i as well. It's been a while since I've used mushrooms and such, but I think I do remember more euphoria with LSA, LSD, and mushrooms than the Phenethylamines. I'm really not sure. One thing I can say, is that my body felt sort of nonexistent.
 
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Cool.... I could have asked more focused or specific questions, but thanks for getting back at me. :)
 
i recently was introduced to 2c-e by a friend who is very experianced with this particuar compound. i personally found it extremely versatile and fitting for many occasions. i was pleasently suprised to see how perfect it was for clubbing, even in the higher 20-25mgs range its produced a unique energy and euphoria i had never previously enjoyed. does anyone else find this is an enjoyable sunstance for clubbing? any replies would be most welcome,
 
2C-E is definitely not a drug for that in my opinion, but for me, no psychedelic is. Even MDMA has a purpose outside of partying and fun. Though, I could see mushrooms, LSD, or even 2C-i being fun club drugs, I couldn't imagine being on 2C-E and being in a public place. It just wasn't that kind of trip for me.
 
2c-e imo is the ultimate phenethylamine shadowed only possibly by T-7, i would agree with the idea that it is extremly versatile - i had a fun new year on 35mgs at a club however i have been working up to that and probably wouldn't suggest it without a fair bit of previous experiance on it at a club. Has anyone else tried insufflating this? possibly the most painful thing i've ever put up my beak! effect worth it though...
 
Cidade De Deus said:
2c-e imo is the ultimate phenethylamine shadowed only possibly by T-7.
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I would have a hard time if I had to pick between 2C-T-7 and 2C-E. I will say I think 2C-E is the better of the two for a variety of reason, but 2C-T-7 is more astounding and definitely a lot more enjoyable. I guess I still like 2C-T-7 better than any phenethylamine except maybe MDA.
 
I only have experience with Mescaline, 2C-i, and 2C-E when it comes to Phenethylamines, but I would have to say Mescaline was the best experience, followed VERY closely by 2C-E, but then I think about my first 2C-i trip, and I had a mystical experience there as well. I really can never choose between psychedelics. They are all unique.
 
sorry im really new to this site so i apologise if posting here for this question is inapproprite but it didn't seem so to me.

can anyone actually confirm what the fate of our beloved 2C-E and his magical friends? i cant seem to find concrete facts as to whether they are all to be scheduled, this is in reference to europe.
 
Okay... I've done 2C-I, and I hear 2C-E is more intense, specifically visually.

On 2C-I, I get very deep insights and come out with a more loving attitude towards those I know and have a much higher ambition as well as planned goals. My visuals are very intense to begin with, with everything becoming very bright and vibrating. Later, all things "move" around and swirl like a typical hallucinogen and I'd say purple, pink, and green are tinted on everything. I can maintain sociability during the entire trip.

Now, how does 2C-E pronounce itself more visually as well as mentally as compared to 2C-I? Would social capabilies be completely impaired?

Thanks,

perceptionist
 
I am definitely writing a trip report for this. I just came off of a 16mg 2C-E trip today. This chemical is flat out powerful. The visions that fill your mind are just so awe striking. I actually had a +4 on the Shulgin scale tonight. ..And now I'm ready for bed. It's unbelievable how normal I feel after a Phenethylamine trip.

perceptionist, for me 2C-E is far more visual than 2C-i. The other effects that you have described that 2C-i give you are there with 2C-E and very much to a farther extent. The connection you have is amazing, especially towards the end of the trip. At 16mgs the first part was pleasantly overwelming, but the second part was very much introspective and deep.
 
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2C-I is a square peg in a square hole. 2C-E is a square peg in a round hole- but it is this friction that generates insight and epiphany.
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I never understood this - to me, it is more like 4-OH-DMT/psilocin/cybin or 5-Meo-DMT is the perfectly shaped 'key' that fits into the hole like nothing else. Maybe its anything with a DMT in it, i dont know. Iprocin/4-OH-DIPT is awesome, one of the best i think, but just like any others, its like, a key that still fits into the hole to unlock the door, but, the key is a little off, not perfectly shaped or something. 2C-I does its thing...2C-E does its things.. but 2C-E doesn't seem so 'odd' that I would say a square peg into a round hole (and saying 2C-I is square that fits into a square hole, sounds too perfect, at least maybe add some jagged edges or something to that square, or make it slightly rectangle.. 8o )

Not for partying, but for insight and growth.
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I agree mostly, except for low doses, new years eve we all had a blast on 4mg 2c-e, low doses I find fun, more fun than 2c-i, but that doesn't mean i'm going to pick 2c-e over 2c-i if i'm looking for some 'fun', the visuals are distinctly different between the two i noticed. With 2c-i I usually get a lot of morphing/liquid carpet/lots of 'connect the dots' type patterns, with 2c-e I get patterns alright, but sooo much more depth to it, more than 'connect the dots', more like, curves here, colors there, 3d, well i can't really explain it more than that i guess. Well, i guess I tend to see more realistic things appear out of the patterning, like people having sex just looking at a computer screen with some text. Oh! that sorta rhymes, haha. %)
 
Piper methysticum said:
I only have experience with Mescaline, 2C-i, and 2C-E when it comes to Phenethylamines, but I would have to say Mescaline was the best experience, followed VERY closely by 2C-E, but then I think about my first 2C-i trip, and I had a mystical experience there as well. I really can never choose between psychedelics. They are all unique.
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We have been talking about PEAs in PMs, but I thought this would be a good question for everyone to hear.

I know it's hard, and think each psychedelic should be appreciated for what they are...not how much they are like others. But I am still driven to ask...

What are some of the major differences between 2C-E and mescaline if you are able to find the words?
 
morninggloryseed, there are definitely many differences between 2C-E and Mescaline, but there are also some striking similarities. I also noticed it with 2C-i, though 2C-i lacked the depth and intensity. The visuals on 16mgs of 2C-E flowed in the same general direction as Mescaline's, but 2C-E was much more technical and "mechanical" feeling. Mescaline seemed to have more of a natural feeling and knew exactly where it wanted me and what it wanted to show me, whereas 2C-E sort of pulled me through different things. I don't remember a significant stimulation with Mescaline because I was out in the woods by myself, but I'm sure it was there. I will never forget that experience. If there were a +5 on Shulgin's scale, that trip would have been it. Mescaline is a perfectly constructed puzzle, while it seems like you are building the puzzle while you are on the synthetic Phenethylamines. I guess it's something that really has to be experienced. You may be able to get the same idea from Iprocin, 4-AcO-DET and such compared to Psilocybin/Psilocin. However, I have yet to taste the synthetic Tryptamines, so I really don't have an accurate explanation.

gloggawogga, though the duration of Mescaline is much longer, I can't say I really felt all that much stimulation. That part is really strange. I just sat with my back resting on a tree near a creek in the woods. Maybe it was because of how intense the trip was. Perhaps because I was all alone. I'm not sure.
 
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To clarify, the stimulation I get from mescaline is nothing like the twitchy stimulation I get from say something like 2c-i. It's more like the body stimulation of a low dose of amphetamine and can be enjoyable during the trip, but it tends to bother me between t+12 and t+18 becuase the trip is mostly over and I want to get to sleep. Perhaps 'lingering stimulaton' would be a better descriptions. Did you have trouble sleeping after your trip? How long after dosing could you fall asleep? How long after dosing 2c-e can you fall asleep?
 
Piper methysticum said:
You may be able to get the same idea from Iprocin, 4-AcO-DET and such compared to Psilocybin/Psilocin.
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I used to be in the camp that "natural is better", and in most cases it is. But having tried iprocin and DiPT...I have to say that natural isn't always better. Yes, I still view mushrooms as the perfect psychedelic; they are definitely my favorite indole psychedelic right begind 5-MeO-DMT (but 5-MeO-DMT isn't a psychedelic, it's beyond that %) ).

However iprocin and DiPT are not that far behind mushrooms. All three are very different from each other so there really is no comparing them. Unlike ethocin, which to me is a lot like psilocybin/psilocin, but not as good. It has its subtle differences and I used to say how different the two were. But now having tried iprocin and DiPT, ethocin really isn't all that different from psilocybin. It does just seem like a shorter and not as good version of a mushroom trip.

Never tried them, but 4-Ho-MET, 4-Ho/AcO-MiPT and 5-MeO-MiPT (smoked) all sound really interesting. All but the first are on my "to do list" and I will be excited to see if these offer something new, or are just a "less good" version of mushrooms. Don't get me wrong, ethocin is not bad in any way. It just does not offer me anything particularly unique compared to mushrooms, DiPT, or iprocin. I'd rather just take one of those three.

I know when I finally get around to trying mescaline, it would have to be my favorite medicine. If mescaline is (by all accounts I've heard) similar but better than 2C-T-7 (my favorite phenethylamine next to MDA), then it would have to be my favorite! The vomiting of T-7 never bothered me so I will be able to deal with it when the time comes for mescaline.
 
gloggawogga said:
[BDid you have trouble sleeping after your trip? How long after dosing could you fall asleep? How long after dosing 2c-e can you fall asleep? [/B]
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I know you didn't ask me, but I'm still going to answer. Two of the three times I took 2C-E, it was daytime (for the record, every PEA I've tried except for the MDX family and 2C-T-7 goes best during the daytime. I'd never take an empathogenic psychedelic during the day, though with T-7 either way is great) and I had no more problems than usual falling asleep.

2C-E was very stimulating for the first hour and a half or so, but by the time the trip really kicks in the body feels great. Only 2C-B and 2C-C are easier on the body for me. But not by much.
 
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