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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

liteage1 - I would really like to hear more about the low dose experiences you had, if you care to take the time. Seems like a low level dose could be very rewarding with this chemical.
 
I took my Mescaline around 12 noon, and I was in the woods until around 8pm. It was getting dark as I was walking home. I was up until around 2am and had no trouble sleeping after I took a Tranxene (a benzodiazepine). I have taken 2C-E around 5pm and had no trouble sleeping around 12 midnight to 2am with a Tranxene. I usually don't have much of a problem sleeping with psychedelics. I fell asleep an hour after the peak of my first LSD trip.

morninggloryseed, I found that 2C-i was definitely a better daytime psychedelic, but I have only ever used 2C-E when it was getting dark. This proved to be very good. So, you are saying 2C-E is very rewarding during the day as well? I may have to experience my 20mg trip during the day. That should be interesting.

Why would you never take an empathogenic psychedelic during the day? I have only taken MDMA at night once at a rave party, and during the day twice with nothing to do. I am interested in using it with my girlfriend as an actual psychedelic rather than a "party" drug. I have used Methylone during the day, and I may be using it tomorrow. What about them works better during the night? ..Same with 2C-E during the day? Sorry about getting off topic.
 
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Of the psychedelics I've tried, all could be considered fine daytime trips. Alchohol and cannabis are much more suited to evening for me.

Psychs for me are about perceiving reality (in an altered state %)) -- an activity I can enjoy day OR night -- rather than escaping it.

Plus so many of these substances are stimulative and keep you up to all hours. I need my beauty sleep! :p
 
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Piper methysticum said:
I took my Mescaline around 12 noon, and I was in the woods until around 8pm. It was getting dark as I was walking home. I was up until around 2am and had no trouble sleeping after I took a Tranxene (a benzodiazepine). I have taken 2C-E around 5pm and had no trouble sleeping around 12 midnight to 2am with a Tranxene. I usually don't have much of a problem sleeping with psychedelics. I fell asleep an hour after the peak of my first LSD trip.
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I've fallen asleep shortly after the peak of an LSD trip too, and one time dozed off for a few minutes during the come up of a shroom trip. But with mescaline, no way. I avoid the use of sedatives as I find they generally destroy the quality of my sleep. In the past I have found benzos do little to help me sleep.

Back to 2c-e, I find 2c-e to be nice both day and night, but find a quite different flavor for each. The day trips seemed to have more have more of an out going nature to them, where as the night trips were more inward and relaxing. I think the differences of lighting and differences in my body clock/chemistry from day to night both contributed to the differences in effect. Also, taking 2c-e at 10:00 AM I could return to my usual routines and function normally by like 5:00 PM. I wasn't even tired in the evening, just left with alot to think about. I find 2c-e to be a remarkably 'clean' substance.
 
Piper methysticum said:
morninggloryseed, So, you are saying 2C-E is very rewarding during the day as well?...Why would you never take an empathogenic psychedelic during the day?...What about them works better during the night?...Same with 2C-E during the day? Sorry about getting off topic.
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To answer is going to be one long ramble (as most things I saw. I don't have any reasons other than personal preference.

For me the entactogens (the MDX series) just don't work well during the day. I've tried MDMA twice and methylone once during the day, and each time it was just "too busy" to get into it. I've never taken an entactogen in a party situation, except once and I didn't like it at all. I don't consider these things recreational.

There is just too much going on during the day for me to relax enough and get into the right frame of mind to let the entactogens take me as deep as they can. Maybe it has to do with body rhythms. My brain is not in the right state during the day to (what I consider) properly experience those materials. The magic they have just was just absent when I took them during the day.

Maybe it is also tied to my personal experiences. With the exception of two of my three MDA trips, all of my entactogen experiences happened with a girlfriend either holding each other in bed and listening to quiet ambient music (or laying in a tent and listening to the universe), feeling each other become one. I just associate night time with the entactogens, and the fact the times I did take them during the day were letdowns, I just don't see no reason to do it. Why waste the stuff?

As for the "classic" psychedelic phenethylamines...

With the exception of a few 2C-T-7 trips, my only enjoyable experience with 2C-T-2 (which was the first time I took it), and one 2C-I trip (wrote a report about it, it was so special); not one PEA trip has ever been as magical and special as the daytime ones.

My one 2C-E experience at night was very dark (no pun intended) as well as for the friend I took it with, but it could have been the setting. We were in some Native America ruins in eastern Colorado and there were a lot of spirits out there. That doesn't say much though why I don't like PEAs at night.

I have taken 2C-I, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7, and 2C-B at night and with the exception of 2C-T-7, these chemicals just seem better suited for the daytime. There is something about the sunlight, it just seems to be an energy that really brings out the magic of the PEAs. I really can't put it into words. I guess I enjoy tripping outdoors, and (because I live in an area of extreme natural beauty) the visuals and emotions for me are most intense during the day with the sun fueling the whole experience.

My last time with 2C-E (third and counting), I was on top of a mountain with my best friend and we literally watched as the world became a palette and was painted before out very eyes. We both watched as mountains would grow out of the ground, only to be destroyed and recreated again. It was the most incredible, mystical thing I've ever seen. The ultimate visual experience and I wouldn't have seen it if it were night time. It was so intense, at one point my senses got so overwhelmed I had a white-out. It was 5-MeO-DMT-like in intensity. But I was never scared. Beautiful experience.

But I was disappointed with 2C-E at night when we took it in those Native American ruins. Maybe it was the setting, but I felt isolated and just obsessed over personal issues, but in a non-productive way. I didn't get any "work" done, I just went in circles. And the visuals at night were nothing like my daytime 2C-E trips. There wasn't much to see, even though we were on an intense dose. I had the best visuals in the morning as I was coming down and we were making breakfast. That was the only time I enjoyed the trip. As I said, it hard a very dark and foreboding nature. Only 2C-T-7 produces visuals that seem to work whether it's day or night. 2C-E beats T-7 in depth, but T-7 has every conventional psychedelic beat when it comes to visionary properties.

So in the end, only the entactogenic PEA psychedelics are nice for me at night. The others are daytime trips. It’s personal preference, but it also has to do with the way those materials affect me. And their effects are either suited for day (classic psychedelic PEAs) or night (the entactogens.)
 
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I find 2c-e to be nice both day and night, but find a quite different flavor for each...I think the differences of lighting and differences in my body clock/chemistry from day to night both contributed to the differences in effect.
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There, he notices the body rhythm thing too. I really think that is what it is. For me, it makes it very particular as to which times I take certain medicines. The odd thing is I perfer indole psychedelics at night. LSD is ok during the day, and it doesn't matter where you take 5-MeO-DMT though it is nice to come back to pretty scenery. But as for the others, I feel they are besy suited for night.
 
That does make alot of sense. I agree that my 2C-i trips were very beautiful day time experiences, but it became dark during the tail end of the trip and was beautiful in a different way. Both of my 2C-E trips have been at night, and they were both awesome. My next 2C-E trip will be with 20mgs, and I will use it during the day, but it will be a while before I get around to it again.
 
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There, he notices the body rhythm thing too. I really think that is what it is.
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I agree as well. Do we think it is tied to the melatonin cycle? I know zero about pharmacology but I am very interested in how psychedelics and the sleeping/waking experience are related.
 
Honestly, I notice the body rhythm as well, but I have never given it much thought. I even notice it with the way Cannabis effects me during the morning/day as opposed to evening/night.
 
Piper methysticum said:
I even notice it with the way Cannabis effects me during the morning/day as opposed to evening/night.
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Yeah. By and large cannabis feels much more appropriate to me at night (and first thing in the morning, but let's not go there). During the day it feels more like an indulgent waste of time, like sleeping until 3:00pm.

But it sounds like you're saying you see a difference, but not a preference?
 
On one website that i read, a person described the visuals to be very much like that from ambien. is there any truth to this whatsoever?
 
I've never taken ambian. But based on what I've read about it, and based on my personal experiences with 2C-E...

If ambian caused visuals like 2C-E does, then it would not be available as a sleeping pill.
 
I have never taken Ambien, but it would not effect you anywhere close to 2C-E. The strange hallucinations people get from sleep medications are NOT psychedelic. I have had people try to tell me that huffing gasoline produces true psychedelic effects.

VictorBorge, with the Cannabis thing, I don't have a preference. I love smoking in the morning, in the afternoon, and at night. It just depends on my mood.
 
This thread finally convinced me to go ahead and order 2c-e.
Damn, I can't wait. even if it's half as good as what i've read about it I'll be satisfied.....ahhhh anticipation is killin me, but i should only have to wait 2 or 3 more days before my 2c-e and scale come in. I'll check back in after i try it out. :)
 
Be careful with 2C-E karachacha. I tried it at a 'low' dosage of 8mg and it blew my head off. If you are getting some you can always try more down the road. Start small, this one is serious stuff. Enjoy and be safe!
 
morninggloryseed said:
To answer is going to be one long ramble (as most things I saw. I don't have any reasons other than personal preference.

For me the entactogens (the MDX series) just don't work well during the day. I've tried MDMA twice and methylone once during the day, and each time it was just "too busy" to get into it. I've never taken an entactogen in a party situation, except once and I didn't like it at all. I don't consider these things recreational.

There is just too much going on during the day for me to relax enough and get into the right frame of mind to let the entactogens take me as deep as they can. Maybe it has to do with body rhythms. My brain is not in the right state during the day to (what I consider) properly experience those materials. The magic they have just was just absent when I took them during the day.

Maybe it is also tied to my personal experiences. With the exception of two of my three MDA trips, all of my entactogen experiences happened with a girlfriend either holding each other in bed and listening to quiet ambient music (or laying in a tent and listening to the universe), feeling each other become one. I just associate night time with the entactogens, and the fact the times I did take them during the day were letdowns, I just don't see no reason to do it. Why waste the stuff?

As for the "classic" psychedelic phenethylamines...

With the exception of a few 2C-T-7 trips, my only enjoyable experience with 2C-T-2 (which was the first time I took it), and one 2C-I trip (wrote a report about it, it was so special); not one PEA trip has ever been as magical and special as the daytime ones.

My one 2C-E experience at night was very dark (no pun intended) as well as for the friend I took it with, but it could have been the setting. We were in some Native America ruins in eastern Colorado and there were a lot of spirits out there. That doesn't say much though why I don't like PEAs at night.

I have taken 2C-I, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7, and 2C-B at night and with the exception of 2C-T-7, these chemicals just seem better suited for the daytime. There is something about the sunlight, it just seems to be an energy that really brings out the magic of the PEAs. I really can't put it into words. I guess I enjoy tripping outdoors, and (because I live in an area of extreme natural beauty) the visuals and emotions for me are most intense during the day with the sun fueling the whole experience.

My last time with 2C-E (third and counting), I was on top of a mountain with my best friend and we literally watched as the world became a palette and was painted before out very eyes. We both watched as mountains would grow out of the ground, only to be destroyed and recreated again. It was the most incredible, mystical thing I've ever seen. The ultimate visual experience and I wouldn't have seen it if it were night time. It was so intense, at one point my senses got so overwhelmed I had a white-out. It was 5-MeO-DMT-like in intensity. But I was never scared. Beautiful experience.

But I was disappointed with 2C-E at night when we took it in those Native American ruins. Maybe it was the setting, but I felt isolated and just obsessed over personal issues, but in a non-productive way. I didn't get any "work" done, I just went in circles. And the visuals at night were nothing like my daytime 2C-E trips. There wasn't much to see, even though we were on an intense dose. I had the best visuals in the morning as I was coming down and we were making breakfast. That was the only time I enjoyed the trip. As I said, it hard a very dark and foreboding nature. Only 2C-T-7 produces visuals that seem to work whether it's day or night. 2C-E beats T-7 in depth, but T-7 has every conventional psychedelic beat when it comes to visionary properties.

So in the end, only the entactogenic PEA psychedelics are nice for me at night. The others are daytime trips. It’s personal preference, but it also has to do with the way those materials affect me. And their effects are either suited for day (classic psychedelic PEAs) or night (the entactogens.)
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your a fucking strange guy... all these ramblings - why do you seem to make every single one of your drug experiances insightful? do you never just get wasted with loads of your freinds or go to raves ? always talking about the serious side of drugs, you need to lighten up bitch
 
Cidade De Deus said:
your a fucking strange guy... all these ramblings - why do you seem to make every single one of your drug experiances insightful? do you never just get wasted with loads of your freinds or go to raves ? always talking about the serious side of drugs, you need to lighten up bitch
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Everyone is different. Everyone has different opinions, expereinces, and preferences about drugs. You don't ALWAYS "have to get wasted with loads of your friends or go to raves". Simple as that. End of Story.

I don't go to raves, only been to raves 3 times in my life and I am 25, and sometimes I just find "getting wasted with friends just for the high's sake" a total waste of time, and boring, I rather quiet night with low doses of things and have meaningful conversations or trip alone and learn few things about myself and my life, rather than talk shit which you, Cidade De Deus, I assume probably what is all you do most of your time when you are always high.

People here in this thread are just talking and sharing about their experiences.

If you don't like here or people's opinions, just shut up and leave, why waste your time posting here if it isn't related to this thread orginal topic?

I think you are the strange guy Cidade De Deus :)

Cheers'n'cones from Aussie.

Urbie %)
 
"you never just get wasted with loads of your freinds or go to raves ?"

No, apparently he has a different conception of the positive uses of psychotropic substances.

(in your language: yoooooo! he likes to get fuxXxored tooooo but in a strange ass way yo)
 
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Well so far I have to say, every time I've done 2C-E has been an order of magnitude better than the time before.

But then again I've only done it twice. :)

I look forward to many more experiences, though.

What's this about 2C-P? I must investigate.
 
Out of curiousity, has any one gotten around to either IM or IV 2ce? I know that there was talk of this earlier, but I haven't heard any response from it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that eating it isn't good enough for me, it is. Please only respond if you have personally tried this, I'm not looking for a lecture about injecting RC's, only asking did it reduce the side effects as some have predicted, or did it go horribly wrong?
 
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