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The Most Safe Psychedelic

cola said:
i heard a lot of bad things about some strong psychedelics like LSD,and i know it's kinda ignorant to believe in drug myths but well i'm worried that some of my psychological problems could re-appear
i had obsessive-compulsive behavior when i was a kid, suffered from extreme anxiety , and social anxiety for years,mild panic attacks, and had (and still have) a mild case of insomnia...and i always get really scared of havng bad trips, i just can't control them.

if you still worry about that don't try psychedelics yet. as long as this worry presents in your head they most likely WILL re-apper your so said ''underlying problems'' whether they exicst or not. your subconsciousness will take care about that in a few trips. when you will be really ready to trip you wont worry about that anymore at all, & then even if you do have some underlying mental comlication it most likely wont affect your trip & wont cause any complications to you. that's my thery anyway.
so, if you think you do gonna try psychedelics in your life, your best bet is to wait until you wont give a flying fuck anymore on that risk & don't view psychs as something threatening.
for your question, i think psychedelic is a psychedelic & they all can affect your mind the same. just start with low doses dude!
 
I've been with many first time trippers on low/medium doses of 2C-I, 4-AcO-DMT, or LSD and all have been relatively positive. I can vouch for the 2C-I, being the first I tried; it can be a bit overly stimulating though.
 
2cb if you want fun with minimum chance of bad trip.I would chose mushrooms
becose thier are much more natural and alot more gentle to organism.
2cb have slightly bigger toxic & unnatural feeling with it
 
fastandbulbous said:
I meant in terms of toxicity, mainly

Well I don't think LSD or Mushrooms are more toxic/neurotoxic than cannabis.

And I will agree with Dexter.
All that "With this you are less liekly to have a bad trip" etc is mostly subjective experiences that should by NO way be spoken as some general objective truth.
 
The less you worry so much about these things, really the less oppurtunity hey have of appearing. It's kind of like anticipating something bad happening in your day or a little kid getting worked up about something and making it worse. The more you expect something bad to happen, the more likely it is going to happen. Try to stay as calm and laid-back as possible, and I think you'd be fine. LSD has only been gentle with me, and I've had some really good stuff, so as long as you're in a very comfortable environment, I'd say you would be fine.
 
fastandbulbous said:
There are recorded deaths from LSD & psilocybin (not many at all actually)m but none from cannabis toxicity. That's what I'm talking about, the LD50 & effectibe dose:toxic dose ratio

ehehe, come on, you need like 50,000mics of acid to die :P
 
The leathal dose of LSD may be 50,000 times the effective dose, but F&B is right--there is no leathal dose of cannabis. The only way cannabis is going to directly kill someone is if it is formed into a club and used to beat said person.
 
Riemann Zeta said:
The leathal dose of LSD may be 50,000 times the effective dose, but F&B is right--there is no leathal dose of cannabis. The only way cannabis is going to directly kill someone is if it is formed into a club and used to beat said person.

or if someone has serious heart problems ;)
 
True. But if someone has a serious cardiac arrythmia, they should probably stay away from all drugs and/or extrememly strenuous activity entirely.

I do not believe so, however it is certainly possible that you will believe you are a glass of orange juice and will be unable to sit down for the rest of your life for fear that you will "spill".
Wow, that was deep, as well as hilarious.
 
dont ever do pcp and try to avoid dxm ketamine etc.

"safest" psychedelic for you to do is shrooms or mescaline. but u should take a low dose the first time. if u take a low dose it will extremelly lessen the chance for panic. also, if weed causes anxiety to u, know that weed tends to cause anxiety more often than tryptamines and phenythalimines (sp?) like lsd and shrooms. dont do dmt ur first time. or salvia. very intense and easily frightening. also set and setting is the most important, even more than which drug u choose.
 
in terms of potency LSD is quite a strong drug only needing a 1/10th of a 1mg to have effect !! ;) so in terms of safest, Cannabis. I know mescaline needs a high dose so in terms of potency that is one of the safest, but i have heard reports of up to a 1g could kill you ..

So maybe i will go for a long shot and say snorting 2C-T-7 ;)
 
^ Go the whole hog with this thinking and say 4-MTA or PMA! =D

I think calling the pills with 4-MTA in them flatliners was someone having a very sick joke. I can't remember how many people died with them, but it's a horribly toxic drug
 
Zubi420 said:
dont ever do pcp and try to avoid dxm ketamine etc.

"safest" psychedelic for you to do is shrooms or mescaline. but u should take a low dose the first time. if u take a low dose it will extremelly lessen the chance for panic. also, if weed causes anxiety to u, know that weed tends to cause anxiety more often than tryptamines and phenythalimines (sp?) like lsd and shrooms. dont do dmt ur first time. or salvia. very intense and easily frightening. also set and setting is the most important, even more than which drug u choose.

thanks for the advice you're right with the weed causing anxiety in general part...
but i can't stay away from ketamine because I LOVE IT...i mean i never find it frightening not even in a k-hole...i actually love not being able to move too much, not being able to think at all...that "my life is a dream and i'm just a small part of the universe" feeling i get in a k-hole
and DXM...man ,that was my first drug ever...my first one and true love...i used to live on 200-300mg dxm daily just to go to school i love love love dissociativs
and from what i've heard shrooms have a much higher possibility of bad trips and panick then LSD
and i've decided i want mescaline for my first psych. exp
 
Zubi420 said:
dont ever do pcp and try to avoid dxm ketamine etc.

"safest" psychedelic for you to do is shrooms or mescaline. but u should take a low dose the first time. if u take a low dose it will extremelly lessen the chance for panic. also, if weed causes anxiety to u, know that weed tends to cause anxiety more often than tryptamines and phenythalimines (sp?) like lsd and shrooms. dont do dmt ur first time. or salvia. very intense and easily frightening. also set and setting is the most important, even more than which drug u choose.

I can`t really agree with the thing that if you get anxiety from weed you don`t have to try out dissociatives.. i love ket and i had my good times on dxm.. and i do recommend them for someone who wants semi-psychedelic experience with no risks..
 
no psychedelic is safe my friend. If you mean physically.. i would say try anything natural(except datura) or lsd. If you mean psychologically i would say none are much safer than the other.


I recommend.. safety wise, ketamine or lsd.
 
Go for 2c-i. most easy on the mind and the mindfuck. easy to control your visuals if they get out of hand.

lsd is really the safest for you for your body but the others shouldnt really be as bad. they are just untested and there is a possibility LSD is proven to be safe. so is ketamine. but ketamine is a full-frontal skullfuck. your reality falls apart just like DMT
 
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