thanks for that, my mum just got home and she used to see me going up the hospital all the time from drug related incidents i dont wanna put her through it right now, think i took too many beta blockers yesterday and had a few aspirin too put my blood pressure dangerously low im still pale, freezing, confused, feel like a right idiot, but tommorow the worst wd symptoms should be gone, i just hope my chest is ok, it pretty much felt exactly how 'unstable angina' is described on wiki.
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thanks for that, my mum just got home and she used to see me going up the hospital all the time from drug related incidents i dont wanna put her through it right now, think i took too many beta blockers yesterday and had a few aspirin too put my blood pressure dangerously low im still pale, freezing, confused, feel like a right idiot, but tommorow the worst wd symptoms should be gone, i just hope my chest is ok, it pretty much felt exactly how 'unstable angina' is described on wiki.
the dangers of reading up on symptoms on the net are neatly illustrated here! i agree, they do seem to fit, which is why i think you should get yourself checked out but you've got to look at them in context. it is so unlikely that you have suddenly developed unstable angina having previously had no heart problems at all, do you agree? anxiety can make things seem to fit when actually they don't at all. also, like i said, things like indigestion and normal aches and pains can mimic angina/heart attack pretty well..
it's a bit more complicated cos of the other meds you've been taking, low blood pressure can (occasionally) bring on angina but again not really in someone with a normal healthy heart. it would def explain you feeling cold, pale and confused though. have you eaten something today? make sure your blood sugar is ok too. if you've taken too many beta blockers that is another reason why you should probably get yourself checked over.
there really is no way anyone can safely tell you what is going on over the net, i understand that you don't want to worry your mum but my feeling is if you are concerned enough to be posting on here you should get yourself checked out. online medical advice is never going to be particularly safe, we can't see how you actually are, we don't know your history and you don't know if any of us are giving you good advice or not! always best to see a doc/paramedic/nurse/whoever in real life if you are worried. good luck!
it's a bit more complicated cos of the other meds you've been taking, low blood pressure can (occasionally) bring on angina but again not really in someone with a normal healthy heart. it would def explain you feeling cold, pale and confused though. have you eaten something today? make sure your blood sugar is ok too. if you've taken too many beta blockers that is another reason why you should probably get yourself checked over.
there really is no way anyone can safely tell you what is going on over the net, i understand that you don't want to worry your mum but my feeling is if you are concerned enough to be posting on here you should get yourself checked out. online medical advice is never going to be particularly safe, we can't see how you actually are, we don't know your history and you don't know if any of us are giving you good advice or not! always best to see a doc/paramedic/nurse/whoever in real life if you are worried. good luck!
thanks very helpful advice mate, very reassuring actually
, my heart isnt great actually so there is a chance something could of developed so i will get it seen but just cant yet i dont think, ill try and hang in til the morning unless its really bad, just hope i sleep.Yeah just ate something made me feel better but deffo done something my left arm feels fucked lol, reading up on the internet is dangerous, so far ive had, "unstable angina", "collapsed lung", "cardiovascular shock" etc etc
edit: just after posting i now have an intense ache in my jaw and neck, bah i dont even care anymore.
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fair enough. be careful though, don't let anxiety about having to go to hospital stop you from getting treatment you need. i'd steer clear of any more beta blockers, make sure you eat something, drink as much fluid as you can and hopefully all will settle down..
i can safely say you don't have cardiovascular shock or you would not be sat here typing! i've diagnosed myself with all sorts, especially in times of anxiety, it's so easily done.. i'd still get yourself checked over if you can though. hope you feel better soon!
i can safely say you don't have cardiovascular shock or you would not be sat here typing! i've diagnosed myself with all sorts, especially in times of anxiety, it's so easily done.. i'd still get yourself checked over if you can though. hope you feel better soon!
yeah cheers man, just managed to get a check up just down the road, not a hospital but may give me piece of mind for the night
no more gbl for me! The most intense WD's this time, very visual too :S
Are the beta-blockers propranolol? The recommended dose for a day is pretty high. I'm quite sure you can get 160mg tablets of it. I have 40mg ones. Have you tried having a decent amount of booze? It may just give you a few hours sleep. Try not to get too drunk though, because believe me, a hangover on top of that will not be pretty.
yeah you can be on up to 320mg daily i believe but everyone reacts differently, some patients only need a fraction of what another might - so its perfectly possible to take too many for you as an individual, while still taking within the recommended range.
am def being overly cautious in this thread but anything heart-related does make me a bit nervous, however unlikly it is! i would be more concerned about hypotension in this case as opposed to a heart attack but am glad bignbrown's getting himself checked over all the same.. what i'm always most concerned about is that one day a really unwell person will not be recognised as being really unwell over the internet and will not go to hospital when actually they really need it. but am straying off topic, will leave the g withdrawal chat to the experts
am def being overly cautious in this thread but anything heart-related does make me a bit nervous, however unlikly it is! i would be more concerned about hypotension in this case as opposed to a heart attack but am glad bignbrown's getting himself checked over all the same.. what i'm always most concerned about is that one day a really unwell person will not be recognised as being really unwell over the internet and will not go to hospital when actually they really need it. but am straying off topic, will leave the g withdrawal chat to the experts
Shambles
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I still get no real physical w/d from even the heaviest Guice Abuse but mentally/emotionally it does seem to fuck me over more and more each time. It's been a few weeks since my last lot of G ran out and my mood is still down and I'm still tired all the time. I generally use G to boost my energy and mood - never deliberately to sleep or nod - and really notice the difference without it. Seems to drag on forever and I can't wait to get a new bottle in, to be honest. It's one of those addictions where the benefits outweigh the downsides for me at the moment ![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Hope you're feeling better soon, B'n'B. You might wanna take it easy on the betablockers too cos they're no fun if you overdo it, in my experience.
Hope you're feeling better soon, B'n'B. You might wanna take it easy on the betablockers too cos they're no fun if you overdo it, in my experience.
went to docs, she didnt even listen with a stethoscope just took my blood pressure told me it was nerve pain and got me out straight away, yet im sitting here now, left arm almost fully numb and my left side of my chest feeling like its getting stood on, she said that sounds nothing like heart pain :S Ah well if i keel over and die i dont give a shit anymore.
anyway cheers for advice guys
(sorry for off topic!)
anyway cheers for advice guys
(sorry for off topic!)
i am sure she would not have sent you away if she was concerned, docs tend to err on the side of caution on the surface it sounds generally how heart pain could sound (crushing, left arm involved - but doesn't usually go numb) but there are loads of things that can mimic it (indigestion, lung pain, pulled muscle, nerve pain/neuralgia - simply speaking it all goes to the brain via the same nerve pathway so thats why its felt in the same area) and it def wouldn't still be going on and you still be standing if it was a heart attack! shame she wasn't overly helpful but am feeling happier knowing a doc has seen you and doesn't think its serious. am glad your blood pressure is ok too. look after yourself and hopefully you'll be feeling a lot better soon, especially if you can get some sleep now..
on the surface it sounds generally how heart pain could sound (crushing, left arm involved - but doesn't usually go numb) but there are loads of things that can mimic it (indigestion, lung pain, pulled muscle, nerve pain/neuralgia - simply speaking it all goes to the brain via the same nerve pathway so thats why its felt in the same area) and it def wouldn't still be going on and you still be standing if it was a heart attack! shame she wasn't overly helpful but am feeling happier knowing a doc has seen you and doesn't think its serious. am glad your blood pressure is ok too. look after yourself and hopefully you'll be feeling a lot better soon, especially if you can get some sleep now..
I've been convinced of a heart attack and experienced symptons similar to yours and they eventually passed. Just hold in there mate. It gets better.
Well after going a bit crazy last night and once again slightly delerious with some full blown halluinations, i finally ended up just passing out for about 2 hours now im feeling alot more normal. As for the chest and left arm pains, they dont seem as bad now (but still uncomfortable), but i think the GBL wd was making it seem alot worse. Still very weak and pale, not sure if this is down to the night before taking too many beta blockers or just the fact ive had a rough few days with hardly any food or sleep.
One thing i keep getting though, is this weird 'feeling of impending doom' like one minute im lying down trying to sleep then i get this awful feeling all over myself, like the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, as if something awful is about to happen, then it goes away after 10 seconds or so, really unpleasent.
One thing i keep getting though, is this weird 'feeling of impending doom' like one minute im lying down trying to sleep then i get this awful feeling all over myself, like the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, as if something awful is about to happen, then it goes away after 10 seconds or so, really unpleasent.
McPanda
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Sounds like your over the worst of it dude. Things will slowly start getting better. Again drink plenty fluids and get some good food and vitamins down you.
I also suffered the impending doom thingy. My anxiety was through the roof also.
With regards to the Docs, did you mention you were w/ding from GBL ?
I also suffered the impending doom thingy. My anxiety was through the roof also.
With regards to the Docs, did you mention you were w/ding from GBL ?
Nah i didnt, it was only a 5 minute slot i could get on short notice and she rushed me she didnt give me the chance to explain it all.
Yeah anxiety is awful right now, feel it throughout my body, cant get anymore sleep, will get some food and drink down me i think
once again, thanks for everyones advice.
I feel like that before a panic attack. It's just because your GABA receptors are under stimulated. Glad to hear you are feeling better. In two days, you should be almost 100%. You'll probably get a few more hours sleep tonight.
65daysofstatic
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When I was heavily doing it I'd get nasty twitching amongst loads of other undesirable physical reactions. I don't care whether research on GBL/GHB says it does little harm to the body, that's not my experience.I'd also feel constantly hungover. No recreational drugs meant to be done round the clock, of course.Haven't been here for ages. Surprised to see so many still taking GBL since the ban. Used to have it multiple times every day for years. Haven't touched it in nearly a year - hope this means the "magic" would come back if I did have some soon :D
Cool to see you here again Treacle
To those mentioning German and Chinese GBL - I didn't know there was a difference? I've only ever had the Chinese stuff and it was about 99.9% pure if I remember the label correctly.
Also twitching was funny to me. After I'd dosed (2 - 2.5ml) one of my eyes would only feel comfortable to close and my fingers would involuntarily twitch and close windows if I was using my laptop :D
65daysofstatic
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My mood stays down for weeks and weeks too. I'd say that's a pretty real 'physical wd', aswell as a psychological one.I still get no real physical w/d from even the heaviest Guice Abuse but mentally/emotionally it does seem to fuck me over more and more each time. It's been a few weeks since my last lot of G ran out and my mood is still down and I'm still tired all the time. I generally use G to boost my energy and mood - never deliberately to sleep or nod - and really notice the difference without it. Seems to drag on forever and I can't wait to get a new bottle in, to be honest. It's one of those addictions where the benefits outweigh the downsides for me at the moment
Hope you're feeling better soon, B'n'B. You might wanna take it easy on the betablockers too cos they're no fun if you overdo it, in my experience.
It makes me pretty down even when I'm on it now, to be honest. Sobriety (once withdrawal is completely gone) is a lot nicer than round the clock GBL use IMO.
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