RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

[Psyche150]

Does anyone have any thoughts on diluting ethylphenidate with lidocaine?

Is this a reasonable idea to reduce the pain of insufflation?

 

[millar81]

Plug the eph its the easiest painless way of administration. I love eph and never plugged before but my nose was taking a battering so I thought feck it , haven't looked back

 

[RobotRipping]

Please do, I'm very interested in dextro-ethylphenidate. The ethylphenidate I've been getting from UK resellers lately is garbage. Feels like it's mostly levo isomer now and it's definitely not "99.8%" pure anymore, haha, as if it ever was.

i'll probably put a trip report in the TR soon but so far i can say it is much less edgy, panicky and unfortunately slightly less euphoric. It is smooth, hardly any anxiety, no paranoia but it doesn't have near the rush of regular ethylphenidate. So less side effects, bit less euphoria but overall i greatly prefer it for functionality.

oh yes much less of a comedown as well, not nearly as terribly anxious as regular ethylphenidate.

 

[doppelgänger1]

I tried 30mg nasally today twice and it's rather underwhelming. The effects were pretty weak, however i didn't really notice any serious side effects.
Snorting wasn't as painfully as i had expected. If you use a nasal douche before and afterwards it seams to be ok.
Thb kratom is far superior to eph and most other rc-stimulants imho.

 

[pbuilder]

I'd say the danger range begins at like 100mg + doses or if you dose like 30mg + amounts to frequently and they add up to above 150mg in only an hour or two. I don't know, all I can say is this stuff gave me the same left sided chest stress / tachycardia that I've only experienced once before with cocaine. And only from a much larger amount then the 250-300mg EPH that caused that effect.

 

[Psyche150]

Today I have been insufflating a mixture of ethylphenidate and benzocaine in a 4:1 ratio.
If you are a regular user then I highly recommend this mixture.
It has entirely removed any pain caused by the ethylphenidate.
Benzocaine is very inexpensive, I acquired ten grams for £15.

Please note, you must douche your nostrils before every insufflation and agian once the drug is absorbed.
The key to preventing damage is to insufflate with moist nostrils.
Benzocaine will stop pain but will only mask damage.

 

[uyillusion]

dosed with 40mg oral 15 mins ago, wasnt alot of information i could find with oral dose reports but there are a few out there. guess ill have a recommendation update when im done

 

[Blake7]

dosed with 40mg oral 15 mins ago, wasnt alot of information i could find with oral dose reports but there are a few out there. guess ill have a recommendation update when im done

I find 50mg a nice introductory dose to ethylphenidate. After some research I dosed a friend and I up with 100mg orally for the first time. Very soon we mere both feeling great and very talkative. The conversation flowed and some of it was quite deep. Not just stimmed up nonsense. Music sounded great and added to the atmosphere. At the three hour mark, my friend dosed another 100mg orally and I snorted 75mg. The conversation flowed and we stayed up most of the night putting the world to rights. I took a couple of etizolam at the end and fell asleep pretty quickly and woke in the morning feeling no I'll effects.

Since then I have taken to IV'ing it with great success initially though each time I've increasingly found that after an initial hour of pleasure it would turn to anxiety as a lot of people find it does to them. The last time I did 50mg which turned to anxiety after an hour. I redosed at 50mg at 3 hours but this just made it a lot worse and had a pretty unpleasant 4 or 5 hours ahead and I haven't touched it since and didn't think I was ever going to. I recently read some posts on here how some people were finding that etizolam was effective treating the anxiety so I thought I would would try out the combo.

I IV'd 35mg about 3 hours ago and felt good for the first hour and a half but started to feel slight anxiety so popped an an etizolam which knocked it an the head and felt great again. I redosed with 50mg after two hours and feel all the better for it and feel pretty stimulated. I popped another etizolam a little while ago and feel even better. Music sounds excellent too.

So personally I find a 50mg oral dose is nice to function on but 100mg with another 100mg at 3 hours works great in social situations. A lot off people seem to find that it goes well with alcohol and it also keeps the anxiety at bay. If you're not experiencing it yet it seems likely that you will at some point as it seems to effect most people sooner or later but their are ways and means.

TL;DR Sorry if I've rambled.a bit and hope you find some of this useful.

EDIT - I have the ethylphenidate comprised of course crystal shards.

EDIT - The etizolam has cured the anxiety so it kooks like I'll be able to enjoy ethylphenidate to it's full potential again. Result!

 

[Cyanoide]

What's a normal starting dose nasally?

You should really start low with nasal doses if you're not familiar with EPH and don't redose after at least 15-20 minutes because it hasn't hit you already. This is extremely strong stuff insufflated and leads to very unpleasant experiences if you overdo it (anxiety, panic attacks, heart palpitations). I'd say take no more than 10 mg nasally and wait for at least 20 minutes before giving a verdict. For me, insufflated, this stuff doesn't hit instantly. Yes I do feel sweaty palms 1 minute after snorting but the real rush comes 10-15 minutes after.

The batch I have now (very large crystal) seems to produce more anxiety than ever before, I have to take benzo's and alcohol to enjoy it.

Also, insufflation is extremely moreish. Oral doses are nowhere near the intensity and moreishenss of snorting.

Edit: The short duration can be quite misleading. It's true if you take one or two lines, but heaven forbid if you start to binge on this stuff. You'll feel it 24 hours after you've stopped.

 

[Blake7]

The batch I have now (very large crystal) seems to produce more anxiety than ever before, I have to take benzo's and alcohol to enjoy it.

That is interesting as a lot of people seem to find the powder causes more anxiety. And yes it would seem a good idea to work your way up to the doses I've suggested rather than jumping in at the deep end as I'm inclined to. As for snorting it I'll never do it again. It's just pure torture.

 

[Cyanoide]

That is interesting as a lot of people seem to find the powder causes more anxiety. And yes it would seem a good idea to work your way up to the doses I've suggested rather than jumping in at the deep end as I'm inclined to. As for snorting it I'll never do it again. It's just pure torture.

I had the fluffy powder recently, but it was nowhere near as potent as this batch. This seems to be a real hardcore batch in terms of purity, but god knows how many batches there are around. 15 mg snorted blows me off my feet with this stuff, something that's never happened before. Snorting is torture, but once you start, you can't stop. The euphoria is so extremely more intense with snorting. With oral dosing I just get some stimulation. It almost feels like a different compound when you snort it. When you start snorting it, oral doses feel like nothing. The only way to get the euphoric high is to keep on snorting. I really don't recommend it.

Another thing I've noticed is this stuff is sneaky. It really builds up and accumulates until you find yourself in some kind of shell shock. More is not better with EPH. If you feel fine, don't take more until the high is (almost) completely gone. If you try to chase more euphoria things end up badly.

 

[Blake7]

I had the fluffy powder recently, but it was nowhere near as potent as this batch. This seems to be a real hardcore batch in terms of purity, but god knows how many batches there are around. 15 mg snorted blows me off my feet with this stuff, something that's never happened before. Snorting is torture, but once you start, you can't stop. The euphoria is so extremely more intense with snorting. With oral dosing I just get some stimulation. It almost feels like a different compound when you snort it.

I much preffered to snort it for the euphoria but my nose just couldn't take the abuse. The next best ROA to IV for euphoria is plugging which a lot of people swear by. There are a lot of fans of this ROA out there and it doesn't require anything so extreme as sticking stuff in your veins but still saves your nose.

 

[Cyanoide]

I much preffered to snort it for the euphoria but my nose just couldn't take the abuse. The next best ROA to IV for euphoria is plugging which a lot of people swear by. There are a lot of fans of this ROA out there and it doesn't require anything so extreme as sticking stuff in your veins but still saves your nose.

I lost my sense of smell for some time after an 8 day binge (extremely stupid, this is no stuff to binge on) earlier this year. My nose hair was gone and my nostrils had turned grey. My nose did recover but I'm not sure it recovers from all EPH I've done since that. The best thing would just be to quit the stuff but it's easier said than done (because MPA is banned here, I really liked it).

Also, am I the only one who freezes insanely after using EPH? It can last a few days. Even if it's warm outside, I feel like I have to wear gloves. The vascoconstriction is really extreme.

Edit2: EPH is definitely nowhere near as stimulating as speed or coke. A few benzo's and some alcohol + EPH almost made it into a euphoric downer high.

 

[Blake7]

I lost my sense of smell for some time after an 8 day binge earlier this year. My nose hair was gone and my nostrils had turned grey. My nose did recover but I'm not sure it recovers from all EPH I've done since that. The best thing would just be to quit the stuff but it's easier said than done (because MPA is banned here, I really liked it).

Also, am I the only one who freezes insanely after using EPH? It can last a few days. Even if it's warm outside, I feel like I have to wear gloves. The vascoconstriction is really extreme.

Yes having a break might be wise for a bit. It certainly doesn't do any of us any harm but alternatively you could try plugging if you have nothing intrinsically against it. I guess the first time's gonna be a bit weird but should be plain sailing after that. I've not had trouble with lingering cold but I've not done ethylphenidate that many times so maybe it will become an issue as I go on. I'm noticing a lot of vasoconstriction right now but that's not surprising but I still feel very warm.

 

[Cyanoide]

How strong are the DRI/NRI properties of EPH? It definitely doesn't feel like it's in the same league with amphetamines or cocaine. EPH almost turns sedating with the addition of benzo's (clonazepam) and beer. With other stimulants, alcohol has virtually no effect on the stimulation.

 

[Blake7]

How strong are the DRI/NRI properties of EPH? It definitely doesn't feel like it's in the same league with amphetamines or cocaine. EPH almost turns sedating with the addition of benzo's (clonazepam) and beer. With other stimulants, alcohol has virtually no effect on the stimulation.

I only know that it's a NDRI but no more that that. Before I redosed, I was feeling a bit lethargic which I put partly down to the etizolam which lasted for a short while after I redosed but I now feel energized and a bit speedy.

 

[RobotRipping]

man my nose has taken a massive beating from 2 days of snorting. Severe sinus pain. I decided to make up gel caps with about 20mg each and they hit really nicely, almost feels opiate like, kind of stimulating but also relaxes me. This is with dextro-eph though, it is much much different than racemic eph. The high is almost sedating. It's a very weird drug for me, seems to make me go into opie withdrawal much faster than normal but reduces my cravings for opiates completely.

I'd really be interested to hear if anyone else has experience with dextro-eph. Great for ADD/ADHD IMO. I'm gonna take a cap for work tomorrow and see how that goes. I could definitely see myself switching my opiate addiction for this, it is a sneaky substance.

 

[Cyanoide]

I only know that it's a NDRI but no more that that. Before I redosed, I was feeling a bit lethargic which I put partly down to the etizolam which lasted for a short while after I redosed but I now feel energized and a bit speedy.

Ethylphenidate gets quite speedy if you redose often, but it still lacks the "electric" speedy feeling speed has, which feels like lightning bolts going through your body. EPH is a quite weird stimulant because it's not especially stimulating IME if you don't redose often or keep taking it a few days. It also lacks the insane increase in focus and motivation speed (and MPA) has, it feels quite messy.

@RobotRipping, I also feel Ethylphenidate (altough not dextro-eph) can feel even sedating at times (with lower doses and no redosing).

 

[Blake7]

Ethylphenidate gets quite speedy if you redose often, but it still lacks the "electric" speedy feeling speed has, which feels like lightning bolts going through your body. EPH is a quite weird stimulant because it's not especially stimulating IME if you don't redose often or keep taking it a few days. It also lacks the insane increase in focus and motivation speed (and MPA) has, it feels quite messy.

@RobotRipping, I also feel Ethylphenidate (altough not dextro-eph) can feel even sedating at times (with lower doses and no redosing).

This is is the first time I've found it speedy on redosing. Maybe the anxiety drags me down normally. I've come down a lot in the last ten minutes. I'm going to redose in the name of science to see what results.

EDIT - As for oral dosing my first experience of this was to dissolve 100mg of ethylphenidate in a mug of water and drink it down. Within a short while I developed the most awful stomach ache so that put me off oral dosing ever since and what with the nasal abuse of snorting, it just leaves plugging and IV administration realisticaly.

 

[Thanatos]

Quick question here: is dexmethylphenidate able to be converted to ethylphenidate, or is it just the levo or racemic form that can be metabolized to ethylphenidate with co ingestion of alcohol?