I don't know why, but the crystals (from different vendors) have a considerable slower onset, although being even more effective than the powder. Even snorted it takes 10-20 minutes to really feel the crystals (crushed, of course), whereas the powder can be felt in a few minutes strongly. No idea why this is the case.
Alcohol really is good with this stuff, the anxiety would be too much without it.
Agreed, unless I can get myself to swing by the store to grabs some alcohol I won't be doing anymore today.
EDIT: got a six Pack of 6% tall cans, drank two , then did a 50mg line. Buzz is totally different when mixed with alcohol, creepy as heck how close the high is so similar to alcohol + coke accept 30 mins later I still feel pretty great with no desire to redose, the high maybe slightly less as great as cocaethlyene but considering the no desire to redose and from my last experience a comedown that is virtually unnoticble compared to my coke+alcohol comedowns at the end of a night once u run out of coke and alcohol, this substance definetly likely has quite some potential for addiction as I'm assuming after over a month clean from coke I'm experiencing a slight honey moon period with this drug and that eventually the negative side effects will rear its ugly head like all stims. This was my last order for a while though, and I'm sure that Eph will get scheduled soon enough
Hopefully, the last thing I need is a legal alternative to blow that my mailman delivers lol. I quit coke cold turkey by deleting all my dealers, 5 weeks clean from coke when I had a 1-2-3 times a week habit, my final straw to quit being the comedowns after spending 500$+ dollars in a week. Not worth ittt.
Edit2: an hour and a half later after that 50 mg line while sipping my third beer I feel like I'm peaking again haha, decent waves of euphoria throughout my body, if this was coke I'd be coming down hard ATM and feel terriblee. Almost like MDMA in the sense that I'm getting a second wave of euphoria an hour later. After I thought I had peaked. Although don't be mislead by me thinking the euphoria from this can compare to MDMA, just has the same Odd second peak effect.
Edit3: God damn... I'm would honestly go as far as to say this sh*t is better, even though I'm using much smaller amounts each line, then the street coke I was doing when I quit. That was one of the reasons I quit, my solid dealer who always had nice rock, beautiful coke stopped dealing and I was grabbing from a guy whos coke was all powder already pretty much. In 5 hours I've done about a 120mg of this stuff with some beer and I feel f*cking great, a lot better than after a half gram of my previous dealers sh*t clearly cut powder blow. That smelt like laundry detergent...
This drug should not be under-estimated, it is a whole new experience combined with alcohol. Sober, it's an anxiety jittery ridden caffeine like overdose mess, with alcohol I feel fantastic.
Even though ethylphenidate is supposed to be the metabolite of methylphenidate with alcohol, still ethylphenidates overall recreational value greatly benefits
By drinking alcohol before dosing, and then again between dosing. I'm sure this is more toxic overall however regardless, because alcohol alone is such a killer itself.
Not to mention, it's far cheaper, reliable and IMO far more potent per milligram. Compared to street coke atleast, when mixed with our ever so infamous alcohol-stim combo, known as the
Specifically toxic metabolite cocaethlyene, with EPH + alcohol tread carefully my friends .
I'm still interested in trying my own
Cocaine extraction from coca tea bags however, and trying to see if I can get a pure cocaine product to try if I ever do coke again, but other than that I sure as hell have no desire (and since I deleted every dealer and anyone who knew them from my phone and life) to ever try street cocaine again . What a filthy drug that coca is.
edit4lol: sorry for all the updates, just weighed my EPH and in total in the past about 11 hours I've done 180mg's. The whole time I've felt pretty dang great, had this been a coke binge I'd be feeling terrible by now no matter what and I'd likely have done well over a gram in 11 hours. By the 8 hour-ish mark in a coke binge I almost even lose the fiend re-dose urge because my comedown is already starting quickly after each line and is so terrible that my brain zaps and just accepts that even if I do another line now I'm just making the comedown worse in 5 minutes.
I'm officially stopping for the night as I just opened my last beer and crushed down a zopiclone i've had stashed for a while and half a etizolam i also crushed, combining both into a parachute I'ma take in the next 30 minutes or less to go to sleep. Really impressed by the lack of urge to redose with this drug, as 180mg's of coke might have lasted me 1 hour at most, but 11 hours later with EPH i'm still feeling pretty great and am completely content with coming down and going to sleep at 10:49pm.
Best described the alcohol + then EPH high is a content, happy, uninhibited, glad to speak your heart out high, with euphoria that is similar to cocaine + alcohol high, but with less bumps in the road (really high, then suddenly crashing, hated this with coke) and an overall maybe a bit less euphoric high, but FAR LESS OF A HARSH NOTICEABLE CRASH, but rather a nice slow comedown to baseline, without really crashing hard and going into a insta-hell kind of a crash. (You know the crash where you actually go far below your sober baseline, and just feel f*cking totally terrible?) 1 hour since I last dosed and I still feel great, still have over half my last beer left and my 7.5mg zopiclone-0.5mg etizolam parachute to take so I can easily go to sleep.
Generally once i'm even just 5 hours into a cocaine binge (with alcohol 5 hours in, and much quicker anxiety-jittery side effects if doing coke sober, even a single 50mg line providing a bit of a comedown for 20+ minutes, with the actually high having only had mediocre euphoria) the comedowns (from street coke) hit you prominently and instantly make you feel like fucking shit and so down, that on many nights, at least with me personally, I had a bag still nearly full of cocaine and decided not to re-dose because I know taking more just slightly prolongs the comedown and inevitably makes it worse, and last longer.
Although that mindset didn't last long lol, and I began redosing when the comedown down hit.
PS: sorry for the length of this post lol, I've been editing and adding to it for 6 solid hours lol.