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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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indeed me too, but methylphetamine has some strong potency among snorting users, it will make you want to want to redose every hour or so, as the initial stimulant effect wears off unfortunately.

Yeah I've witnessed several people do EPH, and noticed redosing that was even more compulsive than methamphetamine, maybe because methamphetamine lasts longer? I wish I could answer my own questions but I've never tried EPH nor do I intend to, so the best answers I can get is from you guys.

Have any of you plugged it? How painful is it to insufflate? Like 2C-E painful? or just a short sting, like methamphetamine?
 
I'd say it's just below cocaine in terms of compulsive redosing. I haven't plugged it, but insufflating it in crystal form induces a sharp stinging sensation which is very unpleasant but nowhere near the agony of 2c-e. The pain subsides after about 5 minutes, but it certainly does quite some damage. Search the thread for more experiences. The powder seems less painful to snort, and doesn't seem to ravage my nose as much as the crystals.
 
I am assuming you mean insufflated cocaine?

Jeez, it burns for 5 minutes!?! It MUST be corrosive. The burn from quality crystal d-MA burns too, but only for 5 seconds or less. In your opinion, is it all worth it? I don't like methylphenidate, and likely will not be experimenting with EPH but I want to learn as much about it as possible so that I can advise others, and because I am fascinated with pharmacology.
 
Yeah I've witnessed several people do EPH, and noticed redosing that was even more compulsive than methamphetamine, maybe because methamphetamine lasts longer? I wish I could answer my own questions but I've never tried EPH nor do I intend to, so the best answers I can get is from you guys.

Have any of you plugged it? How painful is it to insufflate? Like 2C-E painful? or just a short sting, like methamphetamine?

i think its because mph acts on receptors of the brain similar to cociane, most notable dopamine, but not serotonin at the same time which makes cocaine so much more fiendish. i find the mph high is similar to that of cocaine, but strangely more intense, and longer lasting... but the crash is horrible. with regards to snorting i can't feel much, but it is ridiculously more fiendish with regards to redosing over oral consumption, and with regards to insomnia but thats just my personal opinion.

EPH doenst hurt as much when insufflated, it can provide temporary analgesia to the nose as it is a type of anaesthetic, a very weak one i must add, much like the cocaine you find on the streets, not pure , but the next morning it will sting like a bitch.
 
Heh, with a lot of street cocaine, the numbing action is VERY pronounced due to dealers adding lido/benzo/*caine for anyone dumb enough to rely on a taste test alone as a gauge of potency.

Thankyou for your informative replies, and contributions to this thread overall.
 
I am assuming you mean insufflated cocaine?

Jeez, it burns for 5 minutes!?! It MUST be corrosive. The burn from quality crystal d-MA burns too, but only for 5 seconds or less. In your opinion, is it all worth it? I don't like methylphenidate, and likely will not be experimenting with EPH but I want to learn as much about it as possible so that I can advise others, and because I am fascinated with pharmacology.
Compared to insufflated coke compulsive-wise indeed. The powder is far more easy to tolerate though. Don't mean to scare you off, it is nowhere near as bad as insufflating 2FA or 4FA, and choosing to insufflation as your ROA pays off in effects compared to dosing orally. This is how I experience it, it may differ for you of cource.

Edit/ I have mixed feeling about it still, I prefer the high over mph, but insufflating eph crystals leaves one with such discomfort which caused me to avoid eph until the powder batch was released. I still have crystals left, but they leave me with a week of discomfort so I haven't felt compelled to indulge. The first times of eph usage were well worth it though, combined with a few beers I had a great time!
 
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honestly, i believe that mph acts on the same receptors as cocaine , just less influentially with more side effects to deter from abuse. its essentially cocaine with more side effects.
 
honestly, i believe that mph acts on the same receptors as cocaine , just less influentially with more side effects to deter from abuse. its essentially cocaine with more side effects.
Cocaine's sideeffects hit me harder, coke has more pronounced effects but in my case also a harsher comedown. It will differ from person to person of course, some friends have no real comedown from ndri's at all. I haven't noticed overly secret side effects though, it feels pretty clean to me. Exactly what side effect you do you mean? That it's more damaging then coke is a given, mentally I find the comedown easier to handle then with decent coke. It's just the residual stimulation that's a pain.
 
i have found that at higher dosages mph provides me with more insomnia than cocaine, and that i cannot focus properly for the day or two afterwards following mph abuse. if i abuse cocaine in the same manner i don't experience as much insomnia (i have to take at least 75mg of promethazine every night) or at least i can sleep following a cocaine binge.
 
I think the comparisons with Cocaine I'm hearing are a bit disingenuous. The fact that Ethylphenidate is being marketed as "Ethylcaine" only adds to that problem. I understand that Cocaine is the classic example of a DRI, and the one people would be most familiar with, so in that regard it's the most obvious basis for comparison, but at the same time they're only superficially similar.
 
Since 1pm yday gmt i have IM 50mg of 3-meo-pcp and IV'd approx 500mg of epd and a small line of 5-meo-dalt around 50mg stupid i know, don't feel in a good way now when i did the my last shot about an hour ago i was getting some hallucinations i don't know what the best thing to do is keeping calm deep breaths, will probably be okay i;m 6"3 and weigh appprox 12 stone what would the signs of a bad OD be??
 
I made a few statements elsewhere about the chirality effecting the qualitive response of this chemical. It usually applies quite well to this class of compounds. I have yet to see the the dextro but can anyone make any statement about racemic vs the levo as both seem to be available from a variety of places.
 
If anyone is online who is clued up about neuroscience i'm worried about the potential of causing an anuersym i don't have a big stimulant tolerance i tried epd for the first time last weekend just a few keys, got 500mg in the week and probably did about 300mg of it then yesterday got a gram have got approx half left i also used 50mg 3-meo-pcp and a tiny amount of 5-meo-dalt, i have a big dissasociative tolerance so i'm not too worried about the 3-meo-pcp but i am about the epd it was the crystal i'm not getting any major symptoms apart from extreme paranoia and occasional rumbling in my stomach what would the obvious signs of an OD be? I don't have a headache but the drug could be stopping me feeling it, read a report about fatal brain anuerysms from IV methylphenidate
 
I don't think he was comparing it to cocaine in terms of effects, just the compulsion to redose.

You're right. I more meant it as a general comment because I've been hearing the comparison made all over the place. I'm just worried we're going to end up with people putting kilos of this stuff up their nose trying to get a cocaine high.

If anyone is online who is clued up about neuroscience i'm worried about the potential of causing an anuersym i don't have a big stimulant tolerance i tried epd for the first time last weekend just a few keys, got 500mg in the week and probably did about 300mg of it then yesterday got a gram have got approx half left i also used 50mg 3-meo-pcp and a tiny amount of 5-meo-dalt, i have a big dissasociative tolerance so i'm not too worried about the 3-meo-pcp but i am about the epd it was the crystal i'm not getting any major symptoms apart from extreme paranoia and occasional rumbling in my stomach what would the obvious signs of an OD be? I don't have a headache but the drug could be stopping me feeling it, read a report about fatal brain anuerysms from IV methylphenidate

Man, if you're afraid you're going to die go to the hospital. Worst case scenario you're just yet another drug induced psychosis case for the nurses to deal with.
 
Yeah I've witnessed several people do EPH, and noticed redosing that was even more compulsive than methamphetamine, maybe because methamphetamine lasts longer? I wish I could answer my own questions but I've never tried EPH nor do I intend to, so the best answers I can get is from you guys.

Have any of you plugged it? How painful is it to insufflate? Like 2C-E painful? or just a short sting, like methamphetamine?


Insufflation is painful, I havn't tried 2C-E but it does give a sharp stinging pain for a short while after.

Plugged (surprisingly) is fine, very little sting with 25mg in 1ml of water. :)
 
Can i smoke it "like" cracheads smoke crack and how is the high compared to the crack high, im guessing absoultely nothing right.
 
I first used Ethyl on New Year, long story short, I combined it with 6APB, binged Christmas to New years, total ridicolous idea and I was admitted to a ward from turning psychotic. Still suffer from mild psychosis, getting gradually better now. The stuff then was crystals.

Anyways, I started a new job on nights so wanted something for that occassional little boost so ordered 500mg Ethyl. I should't have really tried any stimulants but fuck it, I knew in my head the psychosis was a lie.
This stuff was powder. Mild smell and taste, nothing like compared to mephedrone or 6APB.

First time was on nights. Random dabs here and there, total guesstimates.
Increased focus, time passed quicker, more interest in tasks, mood boost/minor euphoria, talkative, music sounded real good. Lasted about 2 hours. No negatives except psychosis springing up BUT which I was able to control and realise I was being ridicolous. I had a good laugh with myself, I almost found it theraputic, it was kinda a slap in the face like "Look, this is what happened last time, these are the delusions and paranoia.".

Second night, off work. Decided I'd use for recreational fun. Dosages random, done tiny little lines for obvious safety reasons. Burns like a fucker for several seconds. Nice rush, instant mood boost, noticeably increased arousal. Effects same as above except increased euphoria and felt good, pretty decent actually.

Now, about negatives. Back of throat felt rough from drip.
Noticeable increased anxiety, I suffer from minor chronic anxiety, it has recently spiked from new sleep habits/lack of sleep and mild opiate withdrawl.
I felt short of breath and minor chest tightness but, it was probably psychological and anxiety, BUT I've had that the past week from opiate w/d before I touched Ethyl!
Chest discomfort and aches, psychologically from anxiety and gastro acid related, (stomach was rumbling, heartburn and burps) I'd say though. Palpitations towards end of session, likely anxiety related again.
Increased heart rate, normal for stimulants though isn't it but anxiety made it worse. Heart rate was about 70 - 80, would be about that during aerobic exercise/slow jog.
Very moreish, craving the euphoria but I was able to easily stop when I knew I had enough and finished it off with some yogurt, honey, brazil and almond nuts, sunflower, pumpkin and sesame seeds, cinnamon and a multi-vitamin. 100mg 5-htp and 1mg Etizolam 2 hours later after last dose, slept easily and soundly. Nose was sore and slightly congested, felt fine after a nights rest.

Third time/now, which is why I'm typing so much, haha. Dosages random, most oral with some little bumps. Miss the faster come up and rush but, it feels like a much more comfortable ride with less redose cravings. Much less anxiety or worry.

Sorry about lack of dosages, will be buying a scale soon me thinks.
Overall, enjoyable. Lack of research and mixed reviews, like the concern about Ethyls natural? corrosiveness, hypertension, vasoconstriction and cardio discomfort make me cautious but as other people said, ideally only for oral and moderate doses.
 
It's weird, I don't find it very compulsive at all. With alcohol I tend to re-dose but just for the sake of it because I'm feeling quite uninhibited. Ethyl on it's own I don't find very moreish.
 
I've noticed a couple of things over the last few days.

Yesterday after a night out at the pub I came home with my girlfriend to watch a movie and smoke a little weed before drifting off to sleep. As we were sitting there watching the movie I got a nosebleed out of nowhere, with absolutely no warning. I hadn't used any Ethylphenidate that day or the day before, but at the same time I have a hard time believing it wasn't related. I haven't had a nosebleed since I was a kid, and this was probably the strangest I've ever had for a couple of reasons. It came on absolutely out of nowhere, bled profusely, and then stopped just as suddenly as it began. Generally when I used to get nosebleeds I'd have to wad some toilet paper up and push it up there to plug it up until it was ready to stop bleeding, but this stopped quite quickly, and as suddenly as it began.

Also, being that I have a day to myself again today, I'm using it again. I'm not finding the effects to be the same as I did at first.It's just as stimulating, but I'm not finding I get the same amount of focus and clarity I did the first time. It has the feeling about it of not quite having done enough, like a bit more might get me what I'm looking for. Upping the dosage just seems to bring on physical jitteriness though, and if anything make me less focussed and clear. Has anyone else noticed such a rapid buildup of tolerance?
 
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