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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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lynx2051 said:
Yes, it isn't overly moreish, probable because the high isn't all that great. If I've been drinking alcohol with it I always gag on the hangover. I'm never sick normally when drinking alone.
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I found the high quite nice actually. I can see where someone expecting something more like cocaine or amphetamine wouldn't really get off on it, but it's nice in it's own way.

I didn't try drinking with it, which is strange for me because this is probably the first time in a while I had a day off and didn't consume any alcohol. It might be a good idea though, beer is a good source of calories when you don't feel like eating. Though my not eating for most of yesterday was more due to not having food in the house and not wanting to go get any. When my girlfriend finished work she brought home some food and I ate voraciously.
 
Happens to the best ;)
more intriguingly; I found MPH to have a more severe comedown. I don't dose so high with ethylphenidate though, around 20mg a bump.
At the moment I'm unsure where I stand on eph. It's one of the better rc stims out there. I appreciate its effects, but I tend to prefer dopamine releasing chems over inhibitors as I never get a noticeable comedown from those. But again, I find eph's effects most desirable. 8)
 
So I just noticed something strange.

I decided to insufflate the line I had leftover from last night, and it hit me harder than any dose I took last night. I was expecting the opposite, I thought some mild tolerance would have developed after dosing off and on for 8 hours or so yesterday.

I kept the lines about the same size all night, and this one was no different than any other, but I'm noticing significantly stronger effects than I felt at any point yesterday.
 
apparantly so, like cocethylene is more neurotoxic than cocaine on its own. methylphenidate on its own is shown to provide neuroprotective feautures with regard to amphetamines and dopamine receptors in the brain though, unlike cocaine. goddamnit, i hate this period of time when i don't have amphetamines to boost my brain, sorry, i've answered a question regarding neurotoxicity when i should be answering about liver toxicity.

regarding hepatoxicity, both are relatively low. you'd have to ingest a hell of a lot of methylphenidate in order for it to cause hepatic toxicity, same goes for ethylphenidrate. although if the substances are abused over a long period of time, then there are problems that can arise from doing so. according to studies on the web, in a rat - 75-100mg per kg caused liver necrosis, and i'd say around half goes for ethylphenidrate.
 
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tricomb said:
Is Ethylphenidate itself corrosive? It seems like it because of the pain people endure upon insufflation.
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not sure about this, but i'm sure it relates to methylphenidate which IS corrosive if used over an extended period of time. much like cocaine in its mechanism, anything in the nose is corrosive of the mucus membranes as nothing is meant to be up there apart from the mucuus we produce naturally.
 
Yes, it isn't overly moreish, probable because the high isn't all that great.
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Strangely, while I agree that the high isn't all that great, I find this substance to be horribly moreish. It's for these two reasons that I will almost certainly never touch it again. I've had too many experiences where I've turned myself into a jittery, sweating, pounding-heart mess while chasing the euphoria that I got for 40 minutes with the first line...

It scares me how illogical I've become during this futile process. After having what I know is too much, and feeling pretty terrible, and knowing that I won't be able to sleep or eat for a loooooong time, I have still thought "Maybe if I have one more line - a bigger one this time - it'll transform the experience into a good one.... 8(
 
tricomb said:
Is Ethylphenidate itself corrosive? It seems like it because of the pain people endure upon insufflation.
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It's definitely an irritant. The feeling on the mucous membrane in the nose is not unlike the way capsaicin feels on the mouth and tongue when you eat something spicy.
 
of course redosing is a probelm with ethylphenidate, but the same goes for any stimulant with a short half life, of which ethylphenidate is one which is comparable to cocethyene, in the fact that redosing every hour or so is a problem in its own. you will lose the stimulant high you have obtained rather quickly and as such will enter a phase of stimulant depression as i like to call it, under which you want to redose as much as quickly as possible.
 
Yeah I avoid drugs and ROAs that lead to compulsive redosing like the plague.

For example, phenazepam, vaporized/IV methamphetamine, IV cocaine, crack, and to a minor extent, IV hydromorphone.

These are all things I personally have to avoid.
 
tricomb said:
Moreish= compulsive redosing?
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Yeah. It I moreish, but I don't find this as moreish as some people are describing.

I think of something really moreish as something you feel like you absolutely must have as soon as it wears off. I'm able to put this stuff off with no trouble. As an example, I had that line I mentioned earlier, then decided to let it wear off, go grab something to eat and run some errands. Now I'm home again with nothing particularly to do so I might have another line in a bit.
 
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tricomb said:
Yeah I avoid drugs and ROAs that lead to compulsive redosing like the plague.

For example, phenazepam, vaporized/IV methamphetamine, IV cocaine, crack, and to a minor extent, IV hydromorphone.

These are all things I personally have to avoid.
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indeed me too, but methylphetamine has some strong potency among snorting users, it will make you want to want to redose every hour or so, as the initial stimulant effect wears off unfortunately.
 
If one is susceptible to binging behaviour there is a good chance eph will induce said behaviour. It's a matter of willpower, but I do tend to give in to it. The contrast between peaking and coming down is stark for me, which leads me to try and extend the high.
 
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