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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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It has the feeling about it of not quite having done enough, like a bit more might get me what I'm looking for. Upping the dosage just seems to bring on physical jitteriness though, and if anything make me less focussed and clear. Has anyone else noticed such a rapid buildup of tolerance?

Absolutely. I haven't touched it for a while, but when I did I gave it a good run and found just what you describe above: always felt like I hadn't done enough, but doing more only got me more jittery. Terrible cycle to get stuck in.

The first few times were pretty good. I don't have the courage to go back and find out if I've lost any tolerance to it. I'd rather have my normal state of being - even if it is crappy sometimes - and be able to eat and sleep properly than have short bursts of scattered euphoria followed by bouts of messy, sweaty, jittery, paranoid rollercoaster rides.

EDIT: that's not to say it's completely useless. I had some good times with it at parties, where it helped me get chatty where I normally would've flaked out early. I just don't find it functional or useful for getting work/study/cleaning stuff done.
 
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Did Ethylphenidate yesterday(I have done a lot of it before), and got the craziest paranoia, and it started already after a couple of lines.. I know comedown can give paranoia and all that, but never had that much paranoia on, and it started really early, the good effects wasn't even gone before it started.. It happen to me a week ago too, when I was on speed. I was in a safe place, a good setting both times. And I have done lot's of stimulans, so im not new to the effects/side effects. But these two times it was insane.. Somebody have any idea why I got it like that? Sorry if this question don't belong in here, and sorry for the bad english. :)
 
hi i also get paranoid from ethylphenidate, but really fucking paranoid, like thinking i pissed my pants and so...did i do too much ? i never had such a thinking before, what can i do against it ?
 
Take less? Or use a benzo like etizolam to calm the paranoia.
 
Yea etizolam is great to smooth out the comedown and get rid of the paranoia. But still, Im used to not getting such an insane paranoia, it was really fucked up. Think i will take a break from stims 1-3 weeks, and see how it is after that. :)
 
had a night out on 6-apb with alohol, when I got home I took loads of etizolam + ethyl + MXE.

I feel fucking fucked hahaha!!
 
Just a heads up to everyone, I have confirmed with the producing lab that almost all the Ethylphenidate on the market right now is cut with butylone. I would be particularly wary of anything and try and avoid binges if possible. The cut amount is low, but pure ethylphenidate causes no paranoia at all. I have found the easiest way to identify a pure batch is sleep. Sleep is easily obtainable 4 hours after consuming 50mg of pure ethylphenidate. The cut batches will have long lasting residual stimulation sometimes lasting up to 8 hours.
Since it is almost impossible to source uncut, my recommendation is to only consume the crystals, the white powder appears to be the cutting agent.

Just a friendly warning. Everyone be safe!! Ethylphenidate is a wonderful drug and I would hate to see it get banned. Enjoy yourselves!
 
I feel ashamed of myself for doing that combo, etizolam makes me very stupid things. (no excuse I know)
 
I don't think I'll be ordering this one again. It looks good on paper, similar dopamine activity to methylphenidate but less norepinephrine activity. All the good stuff, less side effects. Exactly what you'd be looking for in a DRI.

But on a practical level it just disagrees with the human body. It irritates any tissue it gets near. It fails on that level. It might be great once it makes it's way to your brain, but getting it there isn't worth the trouble.
 
I don't think I'll be ordering this one again. It looks good on paper, similar dopamine activity to methylphenidate but less norepinephrine activity. All the good stuff, less side effects. Exactly what you'd be looking for in a DRI.

But on a practical level it just disagrees with the human body. It irritates any tissue it gets near. It fails on that level. It might be great once it makes it's way to your brain, but getting it there isn't worth the trouble.

I agree it's an irritant, but dilute it causes me no bother at all. Plugged or swallowed = no complaints. I can see why plugging might be considered "trouble" but swallowing?

Also, you can pre-irrigate your nose and reduce the irritation when sniffing. Set up your line of EPH, snort a little water through a straw or something, then snort your EPH. Less irritation, and quicker absorption. Excellent plan for ketamine too!
 
Just a heads up to everyone, I have confirmed with the producing lab that almost all the Ethylphenidate on the market right now is cut with butylone. I would be particularly wary of anything and try and avoid binges if possible. The cut amount is low, but pure ethylphenidate causes no paranoia at all. I have found the easiest way to identify a pure batch is sleep. Sleep is easily obtainable 4 hours after consuming 50mg of pure ethylphenidate. The cut batches will have long lasting residual stimulation sometimes lasting up to 8 hours.
Since it is almost impossible to source uncut, my recommendation is to only consume the crystals, the white powder appears to be the cutting agent.

Just a friendly warning. Everyone be safe!! Ethylphenidate is a wonderful drug and I would hate to see it get banned. Enjoy yourselves!

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Just a heads up to everyone, I have confirmed with the producing lab that almost all the Ethylphenidate on the market right now is cut with butylone. I would be particularly wary of anything and try and avoid binges if possible. The cut amount is low, but pure ethylphenidate causes no paranoia at all. I have found the easiest way to identify a pure batch is sleep. Sleep is easily obtainable 4 hours after consuming 50mg of pure ethylphenidate. The cut batches will have long lasting residual stimulation sometimes lasting up to 8 hours.
Since it is almost impossible to source uncut, my recommendation is to only consume the crystals, the white powder appears to be the cutting agent.

Just a friendly warning. Everyone be safe!! Ethylphenidate is a wonderful drug and I would hate to see it get banned. Enjoy yourselves!

That's a large accusation for someone's first post, do you have any proof? As I honestly can't see why the lab producing it would admit to cutting it, nor why UK vendors would import several kilograms of what would entirely be a class B drug (if part of the product is illegal the entire lot is classified illegal).....

I'm also very wary of you're claim that "pure ethylphenidate causes no paranoia at all" as the supposedly "pure crystals" certainly caused a some what paranoid comedown as well as residual stimulation (as reported by me and several others on here), the same as most other DNRI stimulants do.
 
I agree it's an irritant, but dilute it causes me no bother at all. Plugged or swallowed = no complaints. I can see why plugging might be considered "trouble" but swallowing?

Also, you can pre-irrigate your nose and reduce the irritation when sniffing. Set up your line of EPH, snort a little water through a straw or something, then snort your EPH. Less irritation, and quicker absorption. Excellent plan for ketamine too!
DAMN! Wish the water really would had helped but it just burns so damn bad. If I crush it really good I almost choke on it as it whiffs right to the back of my throat. It still irritates the tissue quite bad. And if you crush the crystals up just half ass...forget it. You'll be hurting for quite some time after that hit. The first time I did the stuff I was blowing the shit out of my nose for 3 hours just wishing it would make the burn go away.

Is vaping it out of the question?
 
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well my vendor is selling crystals atm and the powder I got from them before was top notch.

and EPH can cause little paranoia if you overdose or re-dose too much (nothing that 1 etizolam wouldn't completely fix tho, for me anyway)
 
I find it very moreish with alcohol and 2-methyl-2-butanol. Been sending stupid messages to people on facebbook, will regret this tomorrow morning.
 
And so I finally join your community. Hi this is my first post I'll get to proper introductions and such after my exams next week but just going through the site as I do quite often what really has put me off joining this forum rather than others or more appropriately simply defined in me a complete lack of motivating factors that would be this way, actually done the opposite and have took a second away from work and broke up my Alprazolam [.5mg PO second use of] and Buprenorphine [3mg IN] anxiolisis aquainted and tachycardia pruned +40.00 hours Ethylphenidate [Unknown PO] nourished revision I have been doing for the shit situation I'm in to just take the step into somewhere I've always thought I should be giving something to people and a community.

The post below is who I and you have to thank, for he gave me the laugh, smile and pity for motivation to join the Bluelight community. Which is why I have taken the name knockandoforerowid, I believe the educated members of this forum may understand the sentiment of my words when I think this post sums up 96% of the artery clogging shite discourse that takes space on our community's biggest medium of transport, that being forums. It stands literally as a contrast example of our values of educated harm reduction in the fun use of drugs, psychological breadth of social and cultural concepts that surrounds drugs and us on them or not, validated health promotion of concrete value, the beauty of the imagination and what psychotropic chemicals that cross a little epithelial wall of cells near the brain stem do not just to neurotrasmiters or hormones but us and every concept that defines everyone of us in our role in this shocking, frightning, infinite world. The world so shocking and infinite that in the partaken existance of us is opposite, a material form roughly just a few decades under a century long for those who don't fall ill of their own nature or others, that form spent alot of it working out and forgetting and remembering and asking and answering obsessive of the nature of that form almost forgetting you are a material form. The ride is for each of us is one ride that even 9000 Platos on DMT with 2.1 degrees in English Literature couldn't voice with clarity peaceful judgement on "this", simply because between them they are, "they"; and they, you, I are on the senses and self awareness roller-coaster with our mortal vesicle being the biological product of sexual reproduction of two animals and a molecule that can replicate itself. That DNA that makes your vesicle, a 5-6 ft, bi-pedal, dependent on parents to thrive and for survival from the moment of birth to an anthropologically defined culture induced age that is shameful to our natural life spans, physically weak, mammal. That mammal though, through it's later species ancestry evolution happened to simply incur environmental influences towards those close ancestral species that were characteristic in development of the neurological system.

And the Papaver Somniferum grew, the Stativa, the Cubensis, we made use of our complex sentient awareness, we ate and we spoke, and we continued to speak, speaking for things that would be likely unimaginable to those only 40 years ago let alone would each rich civilization of the past's achievements be to the next. Remember each of those different civilisations, cultures, and speaking; it was looking through any civic conditioning or cultural identities that our ignorance may front in trying to view objectivity here that the animal that made up each of those and experienced each of those and said to do up to now has been the exact same animal you are.

That is all we're doing the poppys are growing still, the cocao leaf they ate we eat now and though maybe now the poppy may be synthetically produced marketed opioid analgesics we eat instead or the synthesis of a molecule with only a CH2 difference to a popular NI inhibitor sold as a research chemical done so legally, again doing this legal it is example not just companie to state, here for example small group spoke being creative, intelligent and communicating creatively being adaptive to civic development of drug laws product of much longer and larger discourse of human being on a international scale disallowing putting ritalin and other drugs up our nose whenever we want because we can't be arsed to realise responsibility.

Apart from them it comes to us, and we should do the same we are doing the same, we are on this forum to speak, to share and to mean. I'm sure Bluelight has probably saved more lives than some Dr's and we are part of it, we are part of the Ethylphenidate, we are part of something important and I just think below just really says the opposite.

If you guys know what I'm on about or don't imagine every post like this by my translation:


Even with a nasal water-bath first? It does take away the sting as it dilutes the chemical and spreads it more evenly across your membranes. And I get more of a rush (a very pleasant dopamine rush) sniffing the stuff as compared to plugging or oral, which surprised me a bit. Stuff is highly water soluble though so that'll help absorption (compared with o-dt in particular, which only readily dissolves with applied heat and I find to be rubbish up the nose but great up the rear. I miss that stuff :( but that's another story and my poppy pods arrive tomorrow!). Might be worth dissolving some and snorting the solution! I'll try that next.)
Translate: I can snort like 2 million ways nd like know all the different ways of lu'ekkk taking stuff? %) and I also know it's primary mechanism of action of, Ethylphenidate, ur I mean dopamill, wait it said the meth/eth diff on wiki one sec. Dopamine, a dopamine rush see it's in the brackets I wrote it there. I did chemistry at school. I'm a polydrug user that forgot to put in a crass heavily slanged reference to "speedballing" I could of made if I knew anything interesting by the poppy/dopamill reuptake reunition of ethylcaine and the lik'euh morphine and codeine and the other one that does the diffferent receptor agonising that is the bits of poppy that make u high and like coke is nice dopaminil rush so it's like cool yeah?

EDIT OK I dissolved ~30mg and sniffed the water, still feels a bit harsh! Less than sniffing powder/crystal on a dry nose but not good all the same. OK... What's to be done? Best ROA for effects (IMO) turns out to be worst ROA for (nasal) defects...
Translate: OMG PUTTING IT UP YOUR NOSE TENDS TO BE HAVE THE MOST EFFECTS ON YOUR NOSE?! (Make sure I add some etc points afterwards, hopefully they'll imagine me pulling the small beard on my chin as they read on?) I'm ringing Novel prize board to tell them after I finish the next sentence, maybe I'll drink one more Robotussin for doing such a good post though, I've even been shortening the words Routes of Administration that I've seen people on erowid do

Translate: Must get this syringe out my ass and concentrate or I wont be able to finish, dunno why but I'll wack my finger in there instead to make sure it's written as long and vacuous as a quadriplegic Catholic nun's sex life.
EDIT AGAIN: I think that for the combined euphoria and stimulation to be obtained from EPH, 3-MeO-PCP or indeed ...E is a much more interesting drug that does not fuck up your holes. But 3-MeO-PCP/E also lead to craziness which is not always desirable; certainly I couldn't study anything on a significant dose of 3-MeO-PCP/E. Plus they last much longer, sometimes too long.
Translate: If you didn't read above I take other drugs, let me vacantly tell you about some completely unrelated drugs to remind you of that fact, they might be of no resemblance in characteristics chemically, effects physiologically to ethile or even research a research chemical but give me a sec, like, I have some profounddddd shit I worked out in my crazy use (cause IMMMM BONKERS). Like, disociatives are weird! the most common side effect a state of confusion SOMEHOW effects tasks of high cognitive requirements like studying! and you wont fucking believe this something lasting much longer than something that last long,... lasts too long!!! Mentul isn't it. See this is why I shud work for erowib. Cud do the yellow writting and everything.


CONCLUSION a (1) shortish-acting, (2) functional, (3) euphoric, (4) non-flesh-eating stimulant would be a nice thing. EPH ticks boxes 1, 2 and 3 but fails on 4. The 3-MeO-PCXs tick boxes 3 and 4 but fail on 1 and 2. Actually they can be functional and tick box 2 but that requires moderate dosing and refusal to redose - virtues I possess in moderate quantities only.
Translate: The Robotussins kicking in now.... Trying to pretend anything I've said has some structure continuing irrelevant conversations bow't ma ROOOOOLING, bit of a hard one me, when I pop those co-co's my ceilingssssss HIT!!!!



Translate: I'll start the sentence with a statement denoting I might have another great contribution to this, oooo and the dots, stroke beard, REPEAT insinuating grandiosity andddddd REPEAT dots. You imagined the chin yeah? That should be enough.

So what can be done... what can be done... Perhaps it's worth "purifying" the EPH to see if it's a synth remnant / by-product which is causing the burn? Not sure how I would go about that other than performing a recrystallisation which, to my knowledge, does not guarantee any more purity than the input material.
Translate: The beginning of this paragraph doesn't hide the fact I truly have not a fucking clue what I'm talking about.



Another option might be a low dose of a 3-MeO-PCX combined with a low dose of EPH. I may look into this. Low doses of 3-MeO-PCP are often undetectable (for me anyway), I've plugged 7mg of the stuff and noticed no alteration from baseline, then later added MXE and had paradigm-altering experiences. Perhaps therein lies a route to sensible, short, stimulated satisfaction sans serious septum scorching. I may experiment.
Translate: Suggest DRUG X with DRUG Z with no rational motive, completly anhialate the subject of the thread when finishing cause you know all those drugs the one not many people have used PCP? I've taken it with leuike EM EX EEE! Yep I'm going to throw in another unrelated drug to the completly unrelated first drug and I dunno how could I finish this, two pretty potent disosiatives, I cud like finish on my ego more, yeah maybe some pseudo-philosophical/quasi psych relating rhetoric with a dab of overexageration in vocabulary of my own relentlessly unrelated, uningaging monologue in this discussion? It'll have to do my banana skin joint is ready to be lit gonna take sum methylmorphine if don't get too high on it like to do the tea, Oh YOU DONT KNOW WHAT it is, mmethylmorphine is codeine...


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So I guess Hi and Bye it's good to be hear I've spent years looking round the odd thread on here but never got signed up and just only been active on another forum but a while ago, been busy. There's always some cool people on these forums but I hate seeing good forums being bogged down with shite. I hope to speak to yous soon and contribute myself I'm actually nearly a qualified biomedical scientist if anyone is wondering with special interest in neurology, psychopharmacology and opiates in speciality, hope I can help and meet some like minded people.

Regards

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