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RCs The Ethylphenidate (Ethyl phenyl(piperidin-2-yl)acetate) Megathread V1

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Having done this both sober and whilst drinking I have to say it is vastly preferable and more euphoric when drinking alongside.

Find it a bit chesty without alcohol to soothe...
 
I remember producing ethyphenidate in VITRO extracting MPH with ethyl (drinking) alcohol,by accidnet... Iso is a pure extraction, but using ethyl ... thats a different story. May be a simple way to produce EPH outside the body... Watched my friend IV the >40% solution !

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Ethylphenidate - Possible Testicular Toxicity

I don't know where best to post this, but think this is really important information about a relatively new drug. Please move it as appropriate.

A very close friend of mine recently fell back onto the stimulant train and has tried a whole host of compounds that offer dopamine fun. This friend actually hates stimulants, and is a big fan of psychedelics, but due to a history of cocaine addiction, sometimes falls off the wagon.

He recently discovered ethylphenidate and thoroughly enjoyed the effects of the drug, as long as he was really drunk first. Sober, this drug just makes his chest hurt. With a bit of alcohol, he says he finds it remarkably similar to cocaine (which he also doesn't enjoy, but still managed to get addicted to.)

But the last few times he has done ethylphenidate, as the compound is wearing off, he has noticed a pain in his testicles, ranging from a dull throb, to excruciating stabs. Leaning towards addiction, he has always readily dismissed the pain as unrelated, despite never before EVER having randomly painful testicles.

But it has become blatantly obvious lately that only ethylphenidate causes this severe testicular pain. He googled "ethylphenidate" and "testicle" and found that he is not the first to experience such things.

One such example is here: <removed link>

I do not know if my friend is causing damage to his testicles, but pain usually serves to inform us of the damage being done to our bodies.

Upon learning he was not the first to experience such things, he immediately flushed his stash and came to report... with aching balls.

No drug is worth ruining your source of testosterone and ability to transmit genes.

Be very careful with this one. The testicle pain is DEFINITELY caused specifically by this compound.

The compound used was a racemic blend of shard-like chunks, verified as ethylphenidate by NMR. My friend is a chemist with access to decent equipment and the know-how to use it.

Be ridiculously careful about deciding to use this. If you think it can't happen, look into nefiracetam. This compound is an analogue of the seemingly incredibly safe piracetam, but causes severe and apparently permanent testicular toxicity. We have no reason to believe that simply because it is an analogue of methylphenidate that it is safe.
 
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benze said:
I don't know where best to post this, but think this is really important information about a relatively new drug. Please move it as appropriate.

A very close friend of mine recently fell back onto the stimulant train and has tried a whole host of compounds that offer dopamine fun. This friend actually hates stimulants, and is a big fan of psychedelics, but due to a history of cocaine addiction, sometimes falls off the wagon.

He recently discovered ethylphenidate and thoroughly enjoyed the effects of the drug, as long as he was really drunk first. Sober, this drug just makes his chest hurt. With a bit of alcohol, he says he finds it remarkably similar to cocaine (which he also doesn't enjoy, but still managed to get addicted to.)

But the last few times he has done ethylphenidate, as the compound is wearing off, he has noticed a pain in his testicles, ranging from a dull throb, to excruciating stabs. Leaning towards addiction, he has always readily dismissed the pain as unrelated, despite never before EVER having randomly painful testicles.

But it has become blatantly obvious lately that only ethylphenidate causes this severe testicular pain. He googled "ethylphenidate" and "testicle" and found that he is not the first to experience such things.

One such example is here: <removed link>

I do not know if my friend is causing damage to his testicles, but pain usually serves to inform us of the damage being done to our bodies.

Upon learning he was not the first to experience such things, he immediately flushed his stash and came to report... with aching balls.

No drug is worth ruining your source of testosterone and ability to transmit genes.

Be very careful with this one. The testicle pain is DEFINITELY caused specifically by this compound.

The compound used was a racemic blend of shard-like chunks, verified as ethylphenidate by NMR. My friend is a chemist with access to decent equipment and the know-how to use it.

Be ridiculously careful about deciding to use this. If you think it can't happen, look into nefiracetam. This compound is an analogue of the seemingly incredibly safe piracetam, but causes severe and apparently permanent testicular toxicity. We have no reason to believe that simply because it is an analogue of methylphenidate that it is safe.
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The research was on rats and dogs with nefiracetam.... If it's that bad for humans is still questionable.
If you look at the chemical structure of ethyphenidate, you have an ethyl-group. They are highly reactive and may imply some neurotoxicity...
 
LOL! Saying ethyl groups are reactive is kinda like saying nuns are sluts. Though admittedly, ethylphenidate possesses an ester, which is reactive. It just happens to be an ethyl ester.

Also, you go ahead and guinea pig nefiracetam. If it is ball-toxic to dogs and rats, I'd rather assume it is ball toxic than testing that for myself.
 
I've also noticed the ball aching, but someone posted earlier in this B&D that it was something to do with dopamine thickening semen that causes it.
 
I wouldn't be so sure it's the ethylphenidate itself. Methiopropamine can also bring about this pain. The drugs cause semen to thicken, essentially, and the longer you're high, the thicker your semen gets. People tend to get sexually aroused on these drugs as well, and also find it difficult to ejaculate etc. The pain in the testicles is (likely) caused by high quantities of thickened semen clogging up the epididymis that protudes from the testicles, and no doubt clogging the testicles themselves, causing them to swell and the end result hurts like a MOTHER FUCKER.

Feels akin to getting kicked in the balls, it's really not nice at all. Have you considered the possibility that it could be this that is causing the pain?
 
lynx2051 said:
Has anyone else been blacking out a lot when combined with alcohol?
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I've done ethylphenidate with alcohol a few times, twice i've blacked out. Doing it when drunk makes you feel really clear headed so you don't think you've drank enough, so you keep drinking and drinking yet at no point do you actually feel drunk. It's not until you wake up with the worst hangover imaginable and your mates recalling the story of how you got kicked out a club and they had to pretty much carry you home that you realize how fucked up you were. :!

It's a really difficult combo to get right (not to much of either does make for a very good night), and it's a problem I find with most stimulants that they make it impossible to judge how drunk you are. :\
 
It's not until you wake up with the worst hangover imaginable and your mates recalling the story of how you got kicked out a club and they had to pretty much carry you home that you realize how fucked up you were.
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its all part of the fun :D
 
It's true my balls had been mildly aching around the time I started taking EPH.

I haven't taken EPH in about a month now, the ball pain kinda stopped around the time I quit EPH. I never thought that the ball pain was because of the EPH.
Now my balls are fine thank you very much. I freaked out a bit when I read the shit about ball toxicity people posted on here.
 
The ethylphenidate i had was in a crystally form, to make it easier to snort would it not be possible to mix with a small amount of water and let recrystalise is a similar was to what you would do with ketamine?
 
knockando said:
i've never had ball pain from any drug including EPH. you guys are weird…
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I initially thought EPH was the perfect drug ... nice high, little to no comedown except lack of sleep.

However, about a week and a half after 3 friends did it, all now have considerable ongoing bladder pain akin to cystitis. One of them previously had ketamine associated bladder syndrome, treated fairly successfully and managed kind of ok, but using EPH has made it flair up the worst its ever been and he's now heading back to hospital for treatment. The other 2 have never had bladder problems before and they all came down with the pains at the same time after only using EPH, no alcohol or other drugs so would have to assume its definitely EPH related.

2 of the 3 also got severe testicular pain as mentioned by some people here. I myself dont put much faith in the "thick semen" explaination - there is a valve that keeps the semen seperate from the urine, and this would open to allow expulsion of excess pressure long before things got the point of causing severe pain in the testicles.

Also all of the people i know who have done this stuff have mentioned considerable chest pains around the heart when on it and some say they feel like they are on the verge of a heart attack if they move too quickly.

Ok, some people are going to respond differently to different gear, but this EPH was purchased from 3 different sources and used by half a dozen people, and for so many of them to come down with the same problems - testicle pain, bladder problems, and heart aches/chest pains, thats not normal and cant be explained away as just "a random event".

Also, read the EPH MSDS sheet - clearly states that use will most likely result in liver and kidney damage.
 
In the interests of full disclosure I have yet to go above about 100mg of EPH in a session. Probably less (OK I'm eyeballing my doses since the police stole my scales but I know I'm in the "moderate" camp). No chest pain, no comedown, no ball ache, no bladder probs, no nothing.
 
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