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Good evening all! I’m an avid reader of this topic and eager to one day have a DMT experience!

If one who lived as far north in the tropics as I wanted to collect, say a fallen branch of an Acacia tree or shrub to take home and do as I please with, or wanted to sow some Acacia seeds to grow as an addition to my garden and collect bark from, which species would one pick?

My research goes as far as scientific names and a few pictures I took while roaming on a friends rural property. Anyways these are:

Acacia Holosericie: Specimen found on friends rural property (I think) It is a botanic synonym of the WA-inland NT species, Acacia Colei which Dr. Karl of ABC radio confirmed having desired molecule. Since the Holosericie is a synonym could it have the same contents?

Acacia Auriculiformis: Confirmed to be in my area, according to NT government PDFs relating foliage in the area. Contains 5-MeO-DMT.


Acacia Catechu: In 2003 at my old High School and the adjoining Botanical gardens, according to a government PDF relating to obnoxious species control, there was growing the ONLY specimens in Australia of the Acacia Catechu. As of 2009 it has been labelled as “Under Control” so I take this as not completely eradicated.

Desmodium gangeticum: Found in Northern WA and NT, But further south down the coast.

Am I in luck to perform the instructions in the aforementioned TEKs with any of these species? Thanks :)
 
Mind_Site said:
Am I in luck to perform the instructions in the aforementioned TEKs with any of these species? Thanks :)
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Hey dude =P

AFAIK any species with active content will work. However, its up to you to decide which is best for you based on availibility and concentration.

Nexus tek seems to be the way to go as well. I've read it through a few times and its very easy to follow and from all reports seems to yeild quite well.

There's a good link to concentrations of various species somewhere further back in this thread if I recall.
 
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Hi Mind site

I have never heard of any of those genus of acacia containing n,n dmt.

I also dont feel the 5-meo-dmt is good for a beginner, its not nearly as visual as 5-meo and it seems a bit incapacitating..

I'd hunt down one of the more common known carriers of n,n dmt.

See if you can find some acuminata, longifolia, obtusifolia etc
 
Hey guys,

One question about changa - I take it that you can smoke it with a raw flame just like you would marijuana for instance? I've read that crystal DMT can't be hit with a flame (due to vaporisation issues), but does the same go for changa?

Many thanks
 
You can do it, it is just very wasteful. Bury the changa down the bottom of a big cone, smoke it with as little flame as possible - let it burn itself, then hold your breath :)
 
I must admit, I've read this entire thread (plus numerous other good sources) but am still confused as to how much you're meant to like it? Some places seem to say light as little as possible (presumably by holding the flame far away so as to only just burn it?) ... Yet some comments in this thread are of people smoking in full like a cone?

I smoke cones with a mini torch liter. Two big blue flames, super hot. I'm not to keen to risk messing this up.
 
Jaza said:
I must admit, I've read this entire thread (plus numerous other good sources) but am still confused as to how much you're meant to like it? Some places seem to say light as little as possible (presumably by holding the flame far away so as to only just burn it?) ... Yet some comments in this thread are of people smoking in full like a cone?

I smoke cones with a mini torch liter. Two big blue flames, super hot. I'm not to keen to risk messing this up.
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Don't use your jet lighter. Get the top of the cone lit then take the lighter away and let the cone burn without anymore direct flame being applied. Better yet vape it in an ice pipe if you have one.
 
Verybuffed said:
Don't use your jet lighter. Get the top of the cone lit then take the lighter away and let the cone burn without anymore direct flame being applied. Better yet vape it in an ice pipe if you have one.
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^ I haven't had a lot of luck using a meth pipe. By the time I'm physically incapable of holding the pipe (& the world turns kaleidoscopic) I've never quite inhaled enough vapour to break through. That's with crystal too, not changa. It's been a long time since I've tried though. I think Psilo posted a link earlier that describes a good smoking device made out of a small glass bottle & steel wool. If it's a changa mix I'd assume the method you described with a big cone with a little sacrificial burning material on top would be the best bet?
 
Yeah that's the way to do it but use a lot of plant material on top so that some of the active has a chance to vape. The bottle you are talking about is called the machine.
 
I have to thank Psilo (and others) for the immense amount of knowledge in this thread. To say that went splendidly well is an understatement
 
how serendipitous, the last post in this thread before mine was on my birthday, i think that's nature telling me i'm on the right track.
 
Jaza and mcjones, it is my pleasure to share my knowledge of this wonderful substance.

I hope you can both gain as much from it as I have over the past few years.

I still have a bit to add to this thread when I get more spare time. I have been working on an oral DMT (using an MAOI) write up for some time, but, as yet I am not happy with it.

Enjoy :)
 
DMT, such an amazing substance, sounds like a true spiritual experience. cant wait to experience it.
 
Hi everyone, I know this thread must be buried right at the bottom of AusDD by now, so without further ado I am going to dig it up because I have a few questions about my recent DMT experience. I'm sure everyone was waiting for it to get dug up to talk about this beautiful chemical :)

At a recent major calender doof event, a friend and I managed to aquire some changa. From memory the DMT was infused with lavender and other assorted herbs whose names escape me right now. We were informed by the lovely person that two cones, smoked via a bong in quick session would produce a "breakthrough" experience.

So my friend and I, in the days after the doof indulged in our newly acquired changa! We both did exactly what we were advised, two cones each with a sober person spotting the bong for us. The first cone once it was pulled through made me feel extremely heavy and my vision began to blur, objects lost detail and sort of became just once colour. The second cone completely floored me, this is when I shut my eyes and watched the pretty colors and fractals behind my eye lids. The mental side of it was next to none though, I didn't experience any mind fuck like time distortion or strange thoughts and I could communicate fine... My friend reports the same.

All in all we loved it, but my friend and I didn't have any "meeting god", profound realizations or becoming "one with the universe" type experiences that I read about all so often on forums and trip reports.

My question is: Is this a breakthrough experience? Are we just not doing it right? Shit changa? Did we need more? Or is it simply a matter of making the trip what you want it to be? :) The setting was pretty perfect in my opinion, rug out on the grass in the backyard with bulk pillows. Beautiful Melbourne summer weather. Doesn't get much better than that in terms of trip settings =D Big thanks to the owner for the facilities!

I repeated the same trip, two cones in quick succession 3 times within an hour and didn't notice a reduction in effects, having said that, though, I have read to wait an hour in between trips to manage tolerance... What is the word on time between DMT trips?

My mate threw up on his second go at it, this is extremely powerful stuff indeed! It seems pretty safe as a chemical to use, but deserves some respect somewhat :)

EDIT: Nangs were pretty cool whilst on it! Anyone tried?
 
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Mind_Site said:
All in all we loved it, but my friend and I didn't have any "meeting god", profound realizations or becoming "one with the universe" type experiences that I read about all so often on forums and trip reports.

My question is: Is this a breakthrough experience? Are we just not doing it right? Shit changa?
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Sounds like you're going into the experience with too many preconceived ideas about what SHOULD happen and are holding on to that.

I've found the best DMT trips occur when the mind is as empty of expectation as possible
:D
 
Hi guys SWIM juat tried their first extractionn (STB), a proud moment i know. i freeze precipitated out the dmt then poured off the naptha. There were some lovely white looking crystals round the bowl. The excess naptha was left to evaporate for about an hour only (couldn't help myself) but when i scraped them together they formed a brown liquid/paste. Does anyone know why that might be??
they were only in the freezer for around 4-6 hours and then evaporated for about an hour. could that be it?
thanks a lot you guys are a great help on here
 
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Mind_Site said:
All in all we loved it, but my friend and I didn't have any "meeting god", profound realizations or becoming "one with the universe" type experiences that I read about all so often on forums and trip reports.

My question is: Is this a breakthrough experience? Are we just not doing it right? Shit changa?
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As Mr.Blonde said, you'll know when you breakthrough.. i attempted to explain my first breakthrough in a trip report, it took me many many months to finish writing it to a level of personal satisfaction that i felt conveyed the experience in its entirety.

Mind_Site said:
Did we need more? Or is it simply a matter of making the trip what you want it to be? :)
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It sounds like it wasn't very potent, i've broken through on half a cone of changa in the past, im sure you'll come across more stuff in time.

Mind_Site said:
What is the word on time between DMT trips?
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Roughly and hour, after that i don't notice much if any tolerance.

Mind_Site said:
It seems pretty safe as a chemical to use, but deserves some respect somewhat :)
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I've seen this molecule treated with brashness in the past by some people, and they've wound up in some very fragmented corners of there mind, simply because they wern't properly prepared, had no knowledge, took it while drunk or believed they could take more then they were capable of been open too.

Dont be too keen to jump in the deep end straight away, i would always caution working your way up in small increments, otherwise it can simply be 'too much' at once.
 
Hi guys SWIM juat tried their first extractionn (STB), a proud moment i know. i freeze precipitated out the dmt then poured off the naptha. There were some lovely white looking crystals round the bowl. The excess naptha was left to evaporate for about an hour only (couldn't help myself) but when i scraped them together they formed a brown liquid/paste. Does anyone know why that might be??
they were only in the freezer for around 4-6 hours and then evaporated for about an hour. could that be it?
thanks a lot you guys are a great help on here
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Did it smell of naptha still?
 
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