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Rambo121 said:
Hi guys SWIM juat tried their first extractionn (STB), a proud moment i know. i freeze precipitated out the dmt then poured off the naptha. There were some lovely white looking crystals round the bowl. The excess naptha was left to evaporate for about an hour only (couldn't help myself) but when i scraped them together they formed a brown liquid/paste. Does anyone know why that might be??
they were only in the freezer for around 4-6 hours and then evaporated for about an hour. could that be it?
thanks a lot you guys are a great help on here
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Did you turn the container upside down when you evaporated the excess solvent? If you didn't, the little solvent that is left will pool and redissolve the Crystals, then evap to leave behind any extra gunk that was present in the solvent.

Other than that, perhaps a tiny amount of basic solution found its way into the solvent container - it really doesn't take too much.

Can always save the batch. Do an A/B of your brown liquid/paste.
 
Rambo121 said:
Hi guys SWIM juat tried their first extractionn (STB), a proud moment i know. i freeze precipitated out the dmt then poured off the naptha. There were some lovely white looking crystals round the bowl. The excess naptha was left to evaporate for about an hour only (couldn't help myself) but when i scraped them together they formed a brown liquid/paste. Does anyone know why that might be??
they were only in the freezer for around 4-6 hours and then evaporated for about an hour. could that be it?
thanks a lot you guys are a great help on here
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Perhaps not the best thing to do..but one could put a tiny drop of the brown liquid/paste on their tongue (remember to keep vinegar on hand to rinse your mouth if needed). If it burns, then you definitely have some basic solution in your mix.
 
Thanks very much malakaix, miasma and Mr Blonde! Very much appreciated! =D

In a stroke of luck tonight, this wonderful substance found it's way to me once more in the form of very tasty looking yellow crystals! %)

Will be trying it within the hour I think after I have a good read of Psilo's first post in this thread! Wish me luck!

Thanks again!

UPDATE: Sigh, must of been 5-Meo-DMT or a similar chemical, got the intense body load but hardly any visuals...
 
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^ Smoking crystal is a bit of a hassle if your not experienced with smoking crystal substances. Weigh it, dissolve in acetone, add the weight in tobacco/herb, then let it evap and dry. Changa. Much easier to dose/smoke.
 
^ Ha ha, I already had that open and was reading it. :)

Sounds interesting, I wonder what the alkaloid content of the rhizome is like? A certain ethnobotanical website says that it also contains bufotenin, though Ott thinks I shouldn't be concerned about any toxicity with that.
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ Ha ha, I already had that open and was reading it. :)

Sounds interesting, I wonder what the alkaloid content of the rhizome is like? A certain ethnobotanical website says that it also contains bufotenin, though Ott thinks I shouldn't be concerned about any toxicity with that.
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One way to find out ;)
 
After some more reading, bufotenin doesn't sound too bad... but it seems as though Phragmites Australis is kinda useless for extractions from reports on another forum.
 
Bufotenin wouldn't be adverse to your health at that level (LD50 is ~250 mg/kg), however, it is a pretty awful high. Body load, tightening of the chest, and nausea from memory.

What I do find interesting (and ultimately why I removed the link) is that fact that an extract is readily available from Chinese herbalists.
 
^ Yes that does seem interesting... I wonder how much rhizome is used for those extracts?

I might look into something else as a DMT source in the mean time... I'd really like to try it in the near future, but I have been too busy to actually go look for plants.

Here is something that DMT hunters might like:

PlantNet Identification

Can help you identify wattles that you have found. :)

Have you used bufotenin, marley, or just going off experience reports? The reports in TiHKAL don't sound promising at all but then I've read some better experiences with smoked extract on other forums and Erowid. When freebase bufotenin is smoked, it seems to have an increasing body load for a couple of minutes before the psychedelic properties kick in.
 
I've smoked popped Anadenanthera colubrina var. cebil seeds (similar to Yopo seeds). According to wikipedia '...the seeds were found to contain 12.4% bufotenine, 0.06% 5-MeO-DMT and 0.06% DMT...'. Not an overly nice experience.
 
^ Mmm... if I do get around to trying it, it will probably be with an extraction. It does sound like it good be a less then great experience though, and with vasoconstrictive substances I tend to get hit by the side effects quite hard. :\
 
I know DMT is seen as more natural but I dont find the need to go back there.
I'd rather do ketamine, I find it more fulfilling in the near death experience trips
 
I figure I should write up my weird dmt experience, it's a bit of a laugh.

First few times I tried it, it was either a really low dose, or was just smoked incorrectly so I didn't get very far with it. After talking to a mate who is out of state that had a incredible time on it, I figured I'd give it another chance.

Anyway so here I am going for a breakthrough dose, the first hit I'm holding I forgot whether I had exhaled or not, so I do and start coughing like crazy. By the time I'm good and having the 2nd and 3rd hits I noticed all the colours in my room become much more vibrant and cartoon like, and I start to zone out and just feel like I'm on a fair sized dose of acid.

Now this is the really weird part, I was sure there was still some left, so I go for another round and the fingers on my hand look half the size they should be and just deformed. I decided it was probably for the best I put everything down and just ride out the high. Looking and my feet too, and it looked like I had stumps on the ends (because I was wearing socks), and I was like wtf where did the rest of my body go. Not to mention my skin tone became an unrealistic colour, as if I had prosthetic arms and legs.

I start looking around the room and none of the objects looked like they belonged to me, they just seemed oversized and weird, sorta hard to explain that bit. The paintings and pictures in my room all become 3D as well, but this didn't click until the trip died down and they become 2D again. Time slowed down considerably too, to the point music was going at half or quarter pace.

It only lasted about 5 mins, but for the next 15mins or so afterwards I was continually checking to make sure my fingers and everything were still attached, and even had to ask my brother if my hands were normal lol

I'm pretty sure that wasn't a breakthrough, but it was so close, and now I know how to properly do it for next time. I'm sure some people would call it a bad experience, but I couldn't help but be amazed by everything that was happening haha
 
I dont know if this is the right thread to post this in, However i'm going to ask.

Does anyone know any good Ayahuasca recipes? What are the best herbs to use in it? I was planning on using Psychotria viridis and Banisteriopsis caapi.
 
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