Dunno about cancer but the residue it leaves sets like concrete only harder - doubt that's too good for your lungs. It's a big reason I don't smoke synthetics too often. That and the fact they're mostly not quite as good as the real thing anyway.
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Have you ever seen the black residue left from Cannabis (aka. "resin")? It may not be concrete-like but it still can get pretty hard in some cases
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I have indeed and suspect that's not too good for the lungs either. At least it doesn't fuck up hashpipes/bongs/other smoking implements to the point of being unusable though. Point taken nonetheless.
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Have you ever seen the black residue left from Cannabis (aka. "resin")? It may not be concrete-like but it still can get pretty hard in some cases
The main reason that cannabis resin isn't as hard as plastic is that it retains water content from the "dried" plant matter. JWH-018 isn't very hygroscopic so it doesn't really have any moisture.
I like JWh-018
Agree with that. I have been smoking JWh-018 for two month. After smoking skunk everyday for nine years I went through a dry patch and opted to try the synthetics. I reckon that because I didn't smoke any weed for about a month, I had 0 tolerance and felt the full effects. Straight away, I noticed how similar this was to a skunk buzz. A very tiny amount (a few grains) (1-2mg) will get me really nicely stoned. I sprinkle it on a tiny bit of herbal tobacco into a pipe. Lovely.
I have od'd with it three or four times. Basically, I got a bit excited and chucked a big bit in. 10 minutes later the realisation hit me that I was Totally fucked. At first I was hyperstoned and I was unable to hold a conversation and looked completely gone. But then my heart rate went crazy and I had to control my breathing for about 2 hours before this subsided. The effect of od on the mind was very profound, a little bit like LSD or heavy hash-eating. However about 30% of my brain could still function, eg I was able to put my shoes on and go for a walk which is always a major challenge on LSD. I basically just had to sit and work my way through it, to avoid having a panic attack, like some of the other people on this thread.
Another time i Od'd was smoking it whilst drinking alchohol. The jury is still out as to how this stuff mixes with alchohol, but I do now avoid it.
On the good side, I now drink about once a week, whereas I used to everyday. I inhale a tiny fraction of smoke compared to with weed. I haven't noticed any addictive effects as yet, although this is a worry so I try not to smoke it everyday. but I used to smoke weed everyday so.....
Agree with that. I have been smoking JWh-018 for two month. After smoking skunk everyday for nine years I went through a dry patch and opted to try the synthetics. I reckon that because I didn't smoke any weed for about a month, I had 0 tolerance and felt the full effects. Straight away, I noticed how similar this was to a skunk buzz. A very tiny amount (a few grains) (1-2mg) will get me really nicely stoned. I sprinkle it on a tiny bit of herbal tobacco into a pipe. Lovely.
I have od'd with it three or four times. Basically, I got a bit excited and chucked a big bit in. 10 minutes later the realisation hit me that I was Totally fucked. At first I was hyperstoned and I was unable to hold a conversation and looked completely gone. But then my heart rate went crazy and I had to control my breathing for about 2 hours before this subsided. The effect of od on the mind was very profound, a little bit like LSD or heavy hash-eating. However about 30% of my brain could still function, eg I was able to put my shoes on and go for a walk which is always a major challenge on LSD. I basically just had to sit and work my way through it, to avoid having a panic attack, like some of the other people on this thread.
Another time i Od'd was smoking it whilst drinking alchohol. The jury is still out as to how this stuff mixes with alchohol, but I do now avoid it.
On the good side, I now drink about once a week, whereas I used to everyday. I inhale a tiny fraction of smoke compared to with weed. I haven't noticed any addictive effects as yet, although this is a worry so I try not to smoke it everyday. but I used to smoke weed everyday so.....
Give me an LSD "OD" over an 018 "OD" anyday 
I must admit I'm starting to actually enjoy the taste of 018 smoke a lil. Used to think it just tasted of mouldy PE kit but seems almost fruity now. Albeit still with a sweaty sock undertone. Or maybe that's the red wine. I hadn't noticed any adverse reaction mixing either 018 or 073 with booze myself - quite the opposite really. Find the 018 anxiety is reduced a fair bit for me if I've had a few drinks. 073 I like anyway with or without booze but 018 is a bit headbanging for me without booze - don't like the physical side-effects at all either. Jury finds alcohol not guilty for me.
Also, welcome to PD and BL, Anton
I must admit I'm starting to actually enjoy the taste of 018 smoke a lil. Used to think it just tasted of mouldy PE kit but seems almost fruity now. Albeit still with a sweaty sock undertone. Or maybe that's the red wine. I hadn't noticed any adverse reaction mixing either 018 or 073 with booze myself - quite the opposite really. Find the 018 anxiety is reduced a fair bit for me if I've had a few drinks. 073 I like anyway with or without booze but 018 is a bit headbanging for me without booze - don't like the physical side-effects at all either. Jury finds alcohol not guilty for me.
Also, welcome to PD and BL, Anton
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Anyone have an idea which cannabinoid might be in "K2"?
It seems to last a short time - 1-to-3 hours, depending on who you ask.
I have tried 6 different "legal highs", and K2 is my favorite...
It seems to last a short time - 1-to-3 hours, depending on who you ask.
I have tried 6 different "legal highs", and K2 is my favorite...
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I was told from another prominent "Blend Enthusiast" that K2 was the worst and weakest of all the blends - that if anything, the blend didn't contain any Cannabinoids, if not in insignificant amounts.
Glad to hear that unlikely that 018 and alchohol combined that can cause dodgy experience. It could be that after a few beers it's harder to judge the amount I put in + a bit of bravado. It's easy to get caught up thinking it's a wonderdrug. 018 is a very potent susbstance and should be treated with care. The trick for me now is to aim low and top up if neccesary. It amazes me how tiny amounts bring on such a lovely buzz, and so far I have not built up much of a tolerance. Also find it handy to keep a few benzo's to hand in case. 
It also seems to help with amphetamine comedown much better than skunk used to. It just spaces me out with very few lingering effects after a sleep.
It also seems to help with amphetamine comedown much better than skunk used to. It just spaces me out with very few lingering effects after a sleep.i have a question and some of you might have some experience with it......do synthetic cannabinoids act on nausea(reducing it) the same way as the regular plant would?
ive had a VERY intense experience with eating these things. i was riding in a car a few hours after it hit and jeez it felt like we were going 200mph on a rollercoaster lol. is their stil speculation of it being cancerous orally?
yea k2 sucks. ive had a pretty crazy exp smoking yucatan fire. i was actually trippin the f out lol.
ive had a VERY intense experience with eating these things. i was riding in a car a few hours after it hit and jeez it felt like we were going 200mph on a rollercoaster lol. is their stil speculation of it being cancerous orally?
yea k2 sucks. ive had a pretty crazy exp smoking yucatan fire. i was actually trippin the f out lol.
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Has anyone heard of a blend being sold at shops in the United States called herb? I just wanna know if there is anyway to find out the blend of cannabinoids in it.
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I don't know for certain, but based on my own experience, I would disagree.
I find K2 to be almost exactly like high quality marijuana.
(See my experience report here:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=478358)
I very much doubt that the feeling comes entirely from natural herbs.
I would rank K2 as stronger than Spice Diamond, and roughly as strong as Magic Gold/Silver. After my report, I got almost uncontrollably high off of 3 vaped hits.
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well, i've just gone through 100mg of jwh-250 over the past week or so....i found it gives a nice clear "up" head high without much of a body buzz. the only thing i didn't like about it was the short duration of effects. i was back to baseline within an hour, wanting to redose.
JWH Tolerance
I have spent the last week experimenting with a few of the JWH variants, but have run into a brick wall with tolerance. My first dose of JWH-200 resulted in a beautiful psychedelic high with wonderful body buzz that wore off in 2 hours. However, now I can smoke all I want and I only get a mild psychedelic high with a light body buzz and the effects are gone in 45 mins. There also seems to be strong cross-tolerance for me among the 3 JWH compounds I've tried. A good dose of JWH-018 got me WAY high a few days ago. The next time I tried it, after a few uses of 073 and 200, the same dose got me a nice high, nothing special, which lasted about an hour or so.
Does anyone else have such a steep tolerance curve with these? I have inhaled maybe 12 total doses over the last week.
I have spent the last week experimenting with a few of the JWH variants, but have run into a brick wall with tolerance. My first dose of JWH-200 resulted in a beautiful psychedelic high with wonderful body buzz that wore off in 2 hours. However, now I can smoke all I want and I only get a mild psychedelic high with a light body buzz and the effects are gone in 45 mins. There also seems to be strong cross-tolerance for me among the 3 JWH compounds I've tried. A good dose of JWH-018 got me WAY high a few days ago. The next time I tried it, after a few uses of 073 and 200, the same dose got me a nice high, nothing special, which lasted about an hour or so.
Does anyone else have such a steep tolerance curve with these? I have inhaled maybe 12 total doses over the last week.
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Thats why we called it cannacrack.
Its an short intense cannabis type high.
it never lasted much longer than an hour for me.
Its an short intense cannabis type high.
it never lasted much longer than an hour for me.
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JWH-073 definitely has issues with fast growing tolerance
How long do you need to break to regain substantial sensitivity?
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Do synthetic cannibinoids break down into the same metabolites real marijuana does? This would be interesting if it broke down differently and wasn't detectable.
^ No they don't - they don't contain THC and are actually more closely related to tryptamines, I think. And they don't show up on drug tests
Cmccrack: I get back to baseline tolerance from both 018 and 073 after a week or so off. I don't smoke synthetics heavily though. There's a strong cross-tolerance with weed/hash too that's maybe worth a mention.
Cmccrack: I get back to baseline tolerance from both 018 and 073 after a week or so off. I don't smoke synthetics heavily though. There's a strong cross-tolerance with weed/hash too that's maybe worth a mention.
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^ No they don't and they don't show up on drug tests
Cmccrack: I get back to baseline tolerance from both 018 and 073 after a week or so off. I don't smoke synthetics heavily though. There's a strong cross-tolerance with weed/hash too that's maybe worth a mention.
Oh shit that's awesome! I haven't smoked pot in years mainly because I don't want it to be in my piss for 6 weeks but I miss the high. This is probably a basic question so forgive me but what form do they come in and what ROAs can one use to consume them?
Now I'm interested and am going to read through this thread and look for some places to buy some, is there a particular synthetic variant people recommend, how many different types are there?
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