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The Big & Dandy Synthetic Cannabinoids Thread

Which synthetic cannabinoid do you like or prefer?

  • JWH-018

    Votes: 89 50.0%

  • JWH-073

    Votes: 30 16.9%

  • JWH-133

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • JWH-200

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • JWH-250

    Votes: 28 15.7%

  • CP-47,497

    Votes: 3 1.7%

  • CP-55,940

    Votes: 8 4.5%

  • HU-210

    Votes: 5 2.8%

  • HU-211

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • WIN 55,212-2

    Votes: 7 3.9%

  • AM-2201

    Votes: 5 2.8%
  • Total voters
    178
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All those questions are answered in this thread and as you're about to read it I'll leave you to discover for yourself. Always better to do your own research :)

My favourite is JWH-073 of those that I've tried. I smoke it in a bong, hash or crack pipe on a bed of ash. Sometimes chase it on foil but prefer it on a pipe.
 
Shambles said:
All those questions are answered in this thread and as you're about to read it I'll leave you to discover for yourself. Always better to do your own research :)

My favourite is JWH-073 of those that I've tried. I smoke it in a bong, hash or crack pipe on a bed of ash. Sometimes chase it on foil but prefer it on a pipe.
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And it really doesn't show up on drug tests? that awesome, I wish I still had my glass collection now, damn pigs confiscated $5,000 worth of real GLASS ART. It was much more than paraphernalia and half of it was spotless clean. Now I'm going to have to buy a sweet new Toro or Roor waterpipe if I can smoke this stuff like you would weed.
 
It really doesn't show up on drugs tests and can be smoked like weed... albeit at miniscule doses in most cases. Single digit mg doses are smaller than you would believe possible and each synthetic has it's own dose range - read up on whichever one you try (if you try any) and start low cos overdoing it on almost any of them is seriously unpleasant :|
 
NoxNoctum said:
In what proportions? And what would the total dose of mg be?
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YMMV for many different reasons, but mostly because of tolerance. Proportions, Less -018, more -073; about 4-5 mg -073, 2-3 mg -018 is a good start, any more might prove to be difficult for someone new (I would stay on the low side, and always make sure you try them separately first).
 
Yesterday I received my shipment of 1 gram of JWH-018 for research. The powder is nearly flat white, or slightly off-white, and fairly dense. It vaporizes cleanly, and is not at all water-soluble. I have enjoyed it so far and find it to be great as a cannabis substitute though not as pleasurable as the real thing (I'm a nearly daily cannabis smoker, but right now I'm in a dry spell and have only JWH-018 ). Tonight I'm going to give it a try with the oral route. I put about 20mg in a shotglass filled with perhaps 1/2oz. of olive oil. It formed very small globules in the oil and didn't dissolve very well. After I applied slow gentle heat, it's now completely dissolved in the oil. Later tonight I'll take it and see how it affects me.
 
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i have immensely bad feelings about repeated use of this substance.

IME smoking lots of weed all the time does some seriously weird stuff to the regulation of your cannabinoid system. The worst IMO is the lack of thought when sober and the brain's retaliation on the imagination.

JWH018 seems to mess up the breathing in a weird way. I don't think whatever systems that JWH acts on are supposed to be fucked with to "get high". Doing so makes an assoication in your brain with needing that substance to feel that way, and if our endocannabinoid system is indeed so important to everyday well-being, it's probably not a good idea to associate immense mental anxiety and breathing reduction with a memory of a feeling of getting basically higher than you would off of marijuana...

Seeing as maybe when you think about it then, your body will start getting anxious and you're breathing messes up from sheer memory of this weird shit.

hey maybe
 
ColinGibs said:
i have immensely bad feelings about repeated use of this substance.

IME smoking lots of weed all the time does some seriously weird stuff to the regulation of your cannabinoid system. The worst IMO is the lack of thought when sober and the brain's retaliation on the imagination.

JWH018 seems to mess up the breathing in a weird way. I don't think whatever systems that JWH acts on are supposed to be fucked with to "get high". Doing so makes an assoication in your brain with needing that substance to feel that way, and if our endocannabinoid system is indeed so important to everyday well-being, it's probably not a good idea to associate immense mental anxiety and breathing reduction with a memory of a feeling of getting basically higher than you would off of marijuana...

Seeing as maybe when you think about it then, your body will start getting anxious and you're breathing messes up from sheer memory of this weird shit.

hey maybe
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What the hell are you talking about... :|
 
sleepysaint said:
Yesterday I received my shipment of 1 gram of JWH-018 for research. The powder is nearly flat white, or slightly off-white, and fairly dense. It vaporizes cleanly, and is not at all water-soluble. I have enjoyed it so far and find it to be great as a cannabis substitute though not as pleasurable as the real thing (I'm a nearly daily cannabis smoker, but right now I'm in a dry spell and have only JWH-018 ). Tonight I'm going to give it a try with the oral route. I put about 20mg in a shotglass filled with perhaps 1/2oz. of olive oil. It formed very small globules in the oil and didn't dissolve very well. After I applied slow gentle heat, it's now completely dissolved in the oil.
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I just got my gram of 018 too, a couple days after you :) Found it for $XX. It's off-white, powdery, clumping up into hard little bits here and there. So far I've been really careful with it, measuring out doses with a tiny spoon I made for that purpose.

I'm finding the high similar to Zohai, but maybe a little different... it seems to come on a little slower. Or maybe that's just my imagination :\ Very speedy stuff, the 018. I don't get as burned-out as I would with pot. It doesn't keep me from remembering my dreams like pot does; it might even enhance my dream recall.

It doesn't mix very well with vodka, even after crushing it on a mirror. I was left with little white pockets of resistance. Eating it seems like a very inefficient method of consumption. I'll probably infuse a bunch of plant matter if I can get it to dissolve in rubbing alcohol or acetone, and just smoke it like pot :D

This substance is really great. But there seems to be something missing from the high... I think it would be interesting to mix a bunch of JWH's together in proportions based on potency...

sleepysaint said:
Later tonight I'll take it and see how it affects me.
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Tell us how it goes! I underdosed yesterday when I mixed it with vodka. I'd like to know if the stuff becomes more psychedelic when eaten, like pot does. I heard somewhere that it might not, but you never know.
 
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mecaib said:
Tell us how it goes! I underdosed yesterday when I mixed it with vodka. I'd like to know if the stuff becomes more psychedelic when eaten, like pot does. I heard somewhere that it might not, but you never know.
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Sorry it took so long to respond guys. I've gone through 500mg of JWH-018 in 4 days. More on it later.

The high was very strong. I began coming up within an hour. After 2.5 hours it felt as though I'd smoked 6mg, a fairly strong high. At this point I opted to smoke some. Over time I ended up smoking way too much and smoked somewhere between 7-10mg of it. I got higher than I have ever been from weed, hash, JWH, whatever. I couldn't move from my bed and my thoughts were racing. I was having sort of an anxiety problem but not an "attack". I was unpleasantly high, with extreme time dilation. 10 minutes felt like one hour. I continued this way for about 30 minute before I was able to change my environment and start recovering. After the peak I did get major CEVs. Weed gives me minor ones so I'm not surprised to be seeing them, just not normally as vivid or with sound.


It doesn't mix very well with vodka, even after crushing it on a mirror. I was left with little white pockets of resistance. Eating it seems like a very inefficient method of consumption. I'll probably infuse a bunch of plant matter if I can get it to dissolve in rubbing alcohol or acetone, and just smoke it like pot :D
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My method seemed to work well after my initial fears. Heating the olive oil on a heating pad worked great to dissolve the JWH and I felt it quickly. I put the olive oil on a toasted sandwich. Maybe heating it in vodka would work, I think acetone will be even easier.

when I run out of JWH-018 I will not order more. It is good but I am not completely happy with it/ it has some problems that I think have already been discussed pretty well.
 
sleepysaint said:
Sorry it took so long to respond guys. I've gone through 500mg of JWH-018 in 4 days. More on it later.
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Yikes! That's a lot 8o

I've barely touched the gram I have. Two days ago I intentionally vaporized a little more than I had been taking... I ended up getting so I high that I had to do some push-ups and some drawing to release the energy.

sleepysaint said:
After the peak I did get major CEVs. Weed gives me minor ones so I'm not surprised to be seeing them, just not normally as vivid or with sound.
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That's good news, I suppose. With pot, it's sometimes hard to appreciate the psychedelic effects since they manifest themselves at such high doses. Doses which can also produce lots of anxiety :(

sleepysaint said:
My method seemed to work well after my initial fears. Heating the olive oil on a heating pad worked great to dissolve the JWH and I felt it quickly. I put the olive oil on a toasted sandwich.
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That sounds perfect. I'll have to give it a go sometime, maybe next month.

sleepysaint said:
when I run out of JWH-018 I will not order more. It is good but I am not completely happy with it/ it has some problems that I think have already been discussed pretty well.
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I may feel the same way before I'm finished with my gram. For now, I think it's a great substitute for pot, especially when I don't want to be high for too long.
 
Jwh

I currently have some JWH-018...just wondering differences between this, JWH-015, 350 etc...thanks
 
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