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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Storage Thread

I've heard the term "air-tight" tossed around a lot in this thread. What is considered airtight? A child proof asprin bottle? (Please say yes...)
 
I use a vacuum-sealer. A ziplok containing a powder is placed in a light-resistent envelope, which is then sealed in a vacuum pack. Such packages containing more unstable powders are then placed in the freezer inside another large ziplok. It's a great tool for any woud-be collector of possibly unstable things.

Could anyone please provide some sort of proof regarding the claims of possible reactions with the plastic in ziploks? Vague, unresearched speculation on this topic is not useful. In many years of storing things in such a manner, I have never seen anything indicating that this is an issue.
 
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hell no man. throw is in a vial and bury it outside. Or throw it in the drawer. That shit is phenethylamine it'll stay good in a pharoah's temple for a long time, so they say about MDMA.

Throw a ten strip underneath your mattress. its not gonna hurt it. Its all good, the chemical is just the catalyst anyways there's no meaning in meaning anyways its all meaningless!
 
Got a whole bunch of questions, hope you guys can help :D

Is it safe to acquire 4-ho trypts over the mail in the summer? There is a good chance they would be exposed to at least a day's worth of hot summer 30C+ weather in a hot mail truck.

How much more stable are 4-aco compounds? do they also require freezing, or are they more close to phens in stability. Wiki states that Aco compounds are far more stable than Ho's due to the acetoxy group. But how much more stable, doesn't mention.
If your room temperature is 25C and you store them in an amber airtight vial, how much time would you say you have for 4-ho freebase before breakdown begins? I realize there are no solid answers, but approx? 1 month? 4? 6? If someone could put some approx. safe separate timeline guidelines for ho/meo/aco hcl/freebase on the first page, a lot of people who are not well informed in chemistry would clog up this thread with far less questions. And the doubling half-life for over 10C less temp would be of more use :P

Lastly, when we say potency loss/molecular breakdown, what exactly do the common trypts break down to? Hot toxic are these new components. If they are inert no big deal, but if they are known to be toxins, it is quite a big deal?
 
Since my thread about storing liquid LSD was closed and I didn't find any answers:

First of all, I don't know the solvent it's dissolved in, so I don't know if it will freeze.
Would it be bad if my liquid froze? Would it be less potent after thawing? Would it be better just to keep it light-free airtight in the fridge?

What would be the safest and most efficient way to avoid degradation?
 
Please, someone help me. Right now, the glass airtight vials are wrapped in foil in my mini-fridge (not quite as cold as a normal fridge, but definitely colder than room temp.)

I would like to transfer to the freezer (if this is the best way to avoid degradation) as soon as possible. I heard these were miked at 150ug. My friend said that taking 5 was like ~750ug and he had a great time. He said it tastes MINTY (so I have no fucking clue what the solvent is, it's freezing point, or even if it freezes).

The LAST thing I want to do is fuck up my LSD. I just want to store it so it will degrade as slowly as possible. So could freezing fuck up the vials (if I plan on just filling one vial with water a few times and drinking it, basically like a few washes) if the solvent freezes? There are 4 vials with 5 amber-colored drops in each.
 
Dude, ok, sit down, puff one and chill out for a minute. Its all ok man. Relax.

The minty taste is from some breath freshener stuff that the vial originally contained. I've known of people to empty them and replace with an alcoholic or water solution, and others to remove the breath fresh fluid and put back in a measured amount with LSD.

Smell it and see if it smells alcoholic. If it does, go ahead and put it in the freezer if you want (this alcoholic mint smell should be fairly apparent if you aren't too stoned or something). If not, I would keep it in the fridge out of fear of the container bursting. If you dont think it smells alcoholic, let someone else smell it, because not much is distributed in water.

150ug per hit would be bad-fucking-ass acid by todays standards... and 750ug is going to make a non-tolerant person go unresponsive for the most part, or at least nudge them into the light a little (they will be fucked up beyond reason, probably incoherent.). So take that dose advice with a grain of salt... but! start slow anyway. You can always take more in a bit if you need to.

I have to ask why you bought your liquid acid mixed together inside a bottle. This seems kinda weird. You're intentionally making it hard to know how much you are taking; and knowing is half the battle.

Start slow in case it is not lsd too, if you are not familiar with it.
 
psilocybonaut said:
NO ONE has any advice for me?
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I used two get a sheet (100 tabs) once or twice a year and put it in 2 zip locks and keep it in the freezer, it seemed to lose potency or maybe it was tolerance who knows.
Every time I got a vile I was the Mad Doser and it was gone in a week.
That’s all I can tell you about LSD storage.
 
150ug per hit would be bad-fucking-ass acid by todays standards... and 750ug is going to make a non-tolerant person go unresponsive for the most part, or at least nudge them into the light a little (they will be fucked up beyond reason, probably incoherent.). So take that dose advice with a grain of salt... but! start slow anyway. You can always take more in a bit if you need to.

I have to ask why you bought your liquid acid mixed together inside a bottle. This seems kinda weird. You're intentionally making it hard to know how much you are taking; and knowing is half the battle.

Start slow in case it is not lsd too, if you are not familiar with it.
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Well my friend knows his dosages. We had sugar cubes a while back that I'm sure were between 40-60ug each, and he said that these drops are AT LEAST double strength. He compared them to blotter that we had one time that was ~90-120ug/hit. Maybe they're not a full 150ug, but 5 hits will definitely do me in, and I have NO doubt at all that it is LSD.

What I did was I had my friend drop 20 hits into 4 vials (5 hits each), because I'm going to take all 5 hits when I do it. If I need to split it up, I'll simply fill the vial with water (so the LSD dissolves in it) and use my graduated cylinder to split up the drops.
 
A 1mL syringe would be much better for measuring volume of this sort, and make sure you do not use tap water.
 
Mushroom shelf life - ground

:) Okay, so I picked the mushrooms (cubensis) last may or june, can't remember. I dried them and powderized them in a coffee grinder and stuffed them into capsules on june 28th, planning to take them with me on my study abroad trip to costa rica (they would've passed as herbal supplements at the airport, no doubt) 9 capsules = 1/8th.

The next morning i pussied out, not wanting to jeopardize my trip, and left the capsules at home in a dark, undisturbed place, with a median temp of around 80F. When I returned a month later, i couldnt find the capsules, i totally forgot where I put them.

I just found them today, and I'm wondering how much potency they've lost. Does anyone have any experience with the shelf life of field mushrooms, or with powdered and encapsulated mushrooms? I've had big batches of field shrooms that lasted a long time, and they kept their potency pretty well. Would grinding them up effect it at all?

I appreciate any help! :)
 
i remember hearing that some "ancient" mushrooms were discovered some place. like a couple of centuries old and they'd barely lost any potency... might have been on erowid i read it...

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ok i've completely lost the source so don't take my word for it...
not sure if powdering them will make them more likely to loose potency either.

i guess the only way to find out is to get em down yer hatch ;)
 
Its hard to tell, I've noticed that some of the DMT-containing plants do lose potency after awhile. Psilosin and psilocybin are both similar triptamines. Ground kava root loses potency pretty rapidly, but coca leaf doesn't, IME, neither does St Johns wort, tribulus, Syrian rue... I guess there really is only one way to tell.
 
I've had them as old as 6 months and noticed no loss in potency what so ever.

In fact I think the mushrooms get angry with you when you do nothing with them and are a tad bit stronger. 8o
 
awesome. i'll be trying them out at a festival this weekend, so i'll let you guys know how it goes. i do wonder if the psilocybin and psilocin will degrade faster in groud form..... i guess we'll see :)
 
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