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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Storage Thread

I am posting without reading the entire thread. Not sure if that is what i should be doing because perhaps someone asked the same question.. but this was my thought.. In the documentary "Dirty Pictures" it would appear that Shulgin had a bunch of compounds on his lab shelf. Not sure if this was just for show or if he actually would just store them on a shelf.

You would think that just storage in a air tight container being in room temperature should work.
 
^You are probably correct really. I think people get somewhat anal about this, perhaps based on the perceived ultra-fragility of LSD (which is fragile in uncontrolled environments but not so fragile as to inactivate spontaneously). Still, I find it easier to maintain temperature and climate conditions if I store drugs in a freezer. In my own experience, things lose potency when exposed to a wide-ish array of environments, such as intense heat, light and humidity. Certain drugs seem to require consistency to age well...
 
Hello Bluelight,

I'm going to move from another country (I will move to Canada). So that's mean I need to conserve my stash in my local country for maybe a year or two ! I can't take them with me :(

I would like to know for how many times I can conserve/store the following;

2C-C
2C-D
2C-E
2C-P
DOI
DOC
5-meO-MIPT
4-ACO-DMT
4-HO-MIPT
4-ACO-DIPT.

I had my 2C-C and 2C-D 4 months ago.
I had my 2C-E and 2C-P, DOC, DOI 3 months ago.
I had my 5-meO-MIPT, 4-ACO-DMT, 4-HO-MIPT, 4-ACO-DIPT 2 months ago.

Some stuff are still unopened!

I store them in their original baggies, then placed in green baggies (Anti-UV), then placed the whole thing in a metallic box and some sillica gel in the metallic box.
The box is placed in a drawer, in the dark. Room temperature is between 15° Celsius and 25° Celsius MAXIMUM.

Will I be able to store my chemicals for some years without loss of potency ? (I got nearly 1 to 2 grams of each compounds). I would be a bit sad if they have lost in potency :(

Sorry for my english btw!
 
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I keep mine in a desk drawer room temp. I add a few silica packs to keep moisture out. Over all its not a science.. I always worry about freezer due to frost damage.

I have had 2c-i stored for about a year this way and it was as potent as the day i bought it.

to be safe put some foil over the bags to keep light out.

I'm sure someone will give you better advice.
 
projump2001 said:
I keep mine in a desk drawer room temp. I add a few silica packs to keep moisture out. Over all its not a science.. I always worry about freezer due to frost damage.

I have had 2c-i stored for about a year this way and it was as potent as the day i bought it.

to be safe put some foil over the bags to keep light out.

I'm sure someone will give you better advice.
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Freezers work quite well actually. Especially if you have airtight containers inside your freezer. For least loss in potency, I would put the chem in an airtight bag/vial inside a dark box inside a frost-less freezer at as low a temperature as possible.

Not sure about the silica though. Water usually doesn't do any harm. The only concern should be oxygen in the water, in which case I'd look into some oxygen absorbing stuff.


If you don't have access to a freezer, you could try putting your chems in an airtight plastic baggie inside a balloon filled with argon gas, and put that in the drawr. You'll need a balloon made of a material the gas can't permeate (like those foil balloons that never deflate). If the only substances in the balloon are argon and 2c-x (and you have no sunlight and little heat), there won't be anything for your chems to react with and they'll last as long as they would in a vacuum.
 
Well the DOx and 2Cx substances are phenethylamine which is relatively stable molecule so as other have said; cool, dry place, away from the sun, prevent as much oxidation as possible.

Additionally, 5-meO-MIPT/4-ACO-DMT/4-HO-MIPT/4-ACO-DIPT are all tryptamines which a generally "some what" stable. Generally less so then phenethylamine.

My suggestion would be that of Biovail's - (extremely) well wrapped, no air, glass jar, possibly with a dessicant if you can, and pop in the freezer!

Also I'm assuming in (hcl generally) salt form? Freebases (anything usually) are inherently unstable. Also that there are no adulterants in your drugs. These (plus quite a few more tbh :\ ) are all variables which may effect your substance. :)
 
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I have had my 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT stored inside their original bags, then inside a box in my cupboard - where they are cool and dry. I've had them there since August 2010 with no noticeable change in potency or effects. The 4-AcO-DMT is fumarate though, and I believe HCl is a lot less stable.
 
Jesusgreen said:
I have had my 2C-E and 4-AcO-DMT stored inside their original bags, then inside a box in my cupboard - where they are cool and dry. I've had them there since August 2010 with no noticeable change in potency or effects.
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This will work, all depends on how cautious HofmannBlotter want to be tbh.

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The 4-AcO-DMT is fumarate though, and I believe HCl is a lot less stable.
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Correct! :)
 
^ Yep, I'd definitely recommend popping them in the fridge or freezer anyway, in an airtight container. Though for the 2Cs i wouldn't worry very much as people have stored them for several years using the same method I use with zero issues - 4-AcO-DMT and other tryptamines are what you should focus your concern on for sure :)
 
sorry if this has been suggested before but i was wondering about replacing the air in my storage jar with an inert gas such as N2?
 
Haha, yeah, it'll help. Most folks don't have bottle of pure gases so we overlook such things. Also, why cheap out; use argon. ;)

The only thing I can think of is you'd want to seal the bags in that atmosphere as well. The oxygen in the bag in contact with the chemical is the most damaging. You'd have to replace the air in each bag and then replace the air in the jar.

Unless you're dealing with very fragile chems, most people just remove as much air as they can from each bag and have a bunch of dessicant in the jar.
 
I have a question of my own. How long is aMT freebase likely to survive in a sealed baggy, inside another baggy, inside a sealed envelope, inside a plastic case, at usually just under room temperature? That's the way it was packaged originally so I haven't taken it out yet. I can't really stick it in the fridge at the moment, though maybe a cooler-box or something.

It's only 100mg, so if it could keep a couple months or so then it'd be fine as I plan to use it in either 1 or 2 uses, but I'd like to know, because I don't want to open it in a month and find it inactive.
 
I have a gram stored in a plastic ziplock inside a plastic vitamin-sized pill bottle with dessicant (dehydrated epsom salts), in a drawer at room temperature. It's been there well over 3 years with no visible colour change (off-white) and I recently took 15mg and had a light trip off it; no potency loss at all.
 
we have LSD in the back of a wall clock wrapped in aluminum foil .. Doesn't really get hot up there.

Is this a good place to have LSD in ?
 
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I will ask again, Is storing LSD in the back of a clock on a brick wall in Aluminum foil, that would not loose any of it's goodness would it ?
 
GOTCOOKIES? said:
I will ask again, Is storing LSD in the back of a clock on a brick wall in Aluminum foil, that would not loose any of it's goodness would it ?
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It will depend where the clock is located IMO. If its in a cool area where no real light is shining on it(though I suppose if its inside it doesn't matter to much)then it will be fine for a period of time.
 
GOTCOOKIES? said:
I will ask again, Is storing LSD in the back of a clock on a brick wall in Aluminum foil, that would not loose any of it's goodness would it ?
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Has this not been answered many (many) times? :\

It's generally pretty stable - previous pages will explain the best storage method(s).

As Help has said, what you've described should be fine (assuming you're not trying to store them for years! :) ).

General rule - moisture, light and extreme temperatures (too hot/too cold) are your enemies.
 
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