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The Big & Dandy Oral DMT thread (Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca)

Aurorix (Moclobemide), be careful with that though.

Be aware of contraindications.

I can't give comment on Harmala vs. P. Viridis.
 
think i will stick with my plants that all sounds a bit too medicinal for me
can anyone else answer my question weather p.vividiris is better than p.harmala to avoid the sickness asociated with p.harmala or will i need to do an extraction to solve this
or does anyone else know of a good pharmacutical MAOI easily available in the uk?

if the fix is too long winded i may just stick to smoking the dmt once i have it, dont want to waste any precious crystal :D
 
I've got to say (other than do what you want), it would depend on the experience you are looking for since DMT trips are pretty different from what ayahuasca journeys sound like. If you don't care at all and want to get mileage out of precious crystal perhaps just vaporize it - heed the advice of proper smoking technique though!
If you plan on taking a spiritual journey that may teach you life lessons then invest your effort in a good ayahuasca trip, do enough research to make sure you give your samples the best shot.

Thats my opinion.
 
i know what u mean and have had "spiritual journeys" on lsd and mushrooms they changed my life big time
but just found it hard to concentrate on the beauty of it all with the ayahuasca when feeling like i was goinng to vomit every 10 minutes,
i already know about propper smoking technique for dmt and will be making "the machine"
 
entheodjinn have u used the machine befor? is it that much better than a standard vaporiser pipe or any other methods?
 
coombesy said:
entheodjinn have u used the machine befor? is it that much better than a standard vaporiser pipe or any other methods?
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No - it was just a joke for the folks around PD who are old enough to remember Pink Floyd. I've used an ordinary pipe and a bong for Changa, and it's wicked, but alas, far too short.
 
coombesy said:
would p.vividiris not be a better MAOI as most of the reports of sickness i have seen have been to do with p.harmala and how would you go about extracting the MAOI from vividiris or harmala? is it a long process
i have p.harmala seeds already but think i will buy some p.vividiris to compare the two
any names of other good pharmacutical MAOI's
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P. viridis is a DMT source, not an MAOI source.

B. Caapi is an MAOI source as is P. Harmala.

P. Harmala, B. Caapi = MAOIs

P. Viridis, M. Hosilis = DMT
 
i thaught viridis and caapi were the other way round, that has saved me a silly mistake, the place i got my info is obviously wrong lol
do you know about these well enough to say weather one causes more sickness than the other?
 
I don't have much personal experience with them. I have taken P. harmala with mushrooms ages ago and it wasn't too hard (until the mushrooms kicked in).

The traditional recipe for Ayahuasca is B. Caapi (MAOI) and P. Viridis (DMT).

I'm not sure is B. Caapi or P. harmala cause more nausea than the other.
 
i am aware of how to bre ayahuasca
i still have abottle next to me with about 4 strong doses in that i made from p.harmala and mimosa hostilis root bark
just dont wana drink the shit coz of how ill it made me and my friends some people were being sick a couple times an hour for a few hours
 
No matter how you make Aya you're going to get sick if you take a proper dose. The purge is part of the experience.

When I do it I'm likely going to extract harmine from B. Caapi and DMT from M. Hostilis and take the MAOI and DMT in their pure forms. I'm still expecting to get some intense nausea and puke.

Every truly ego crushing psychedelic experience I've had involved some purging. It comes with the territory.
 
ayahuasca is the only psyc that has ever made me feel even a little bit sick
i have taken lrarge amounts of mushrooms before (4 times the amount of most of my friends) and felt fine
is it hard to extract the harmine from the b.caapi?
is it allowed to leave site links to extraction methods for harmine from b.caapi? if so can u post a link to one if you know it? or pm
 
It would just be a general Acid/Base extraction. They all work the same. Just google it up. :)

We can post links to any site as long as it isn't a source (or porn or spam or whatever).
 
sweeet so u think i can use the same extraction method for geting the harmine from b. caapi as i will to get the dmt from the mhrb?
or is this something else i need to research?
 
coombesy said:
just dont wana drink the shit coz of how ill it made me and my friends some people were being sick a couple times an hour for a few hours
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Yeah, that sounds like ayahuasca alright. :D

That's just what it does to you:

feel profoundly sick ---> purge ---> trip balls.

(To state it colloquially.)
 
so maybe there is no way of geting rid of the sickness :( still will definately try again but i think i will have to wait some time before this so i forget how bad the sickness was and just remember the amazing trip
 
Yeah, a true ego loss psychedelic experience always comes with a horrific come-up.

You feel the chemical doing awful things inside your body; you feel like you're poisoned basically. My mushroom trips were all like that.

After the sickness of the come-up the peak and trip are usually a state of ecstasy :)
 
i have come to different conclusions on my missions as i have experienced no bad feelings from eating 7g of dried mushrooms in couple hours when most people where tripping balls off about 1.5 to 3g likewise taken 3 of the ganesh stamp acid at once and had an overwhelming but not unpleasant comeup
but with the ayahuasca the sicknes and "poisoned" feeling never left and was obvious througout the whole trip
am i just wierd in how my body has reacted to these drugs or what???
 
No, LSD is very easy on the body. Aya on the other hand is quite hard on the body. Having no direct experience myself I can't say how the body feeling of it is.

With mushrooms for me I only feel poisoned on a storng come-up; once it peaks it feels fine; not as clean as acid but still feels okay compared to the wretched come-up.
 
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