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The Big & Dandy N,N-DMT Extraction Thread - Elves are watching

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i extracted DMT one time with a great success, the product was better than what i was paying 50$ a point for, but the second time [i wasnt there] my friend was drunk and was stirring the solution and decided to light a smoke, which caused the whole jar to explode and sent flaming corrosives all over the room, the whole living room was a fireball and thankfully they had an exstingiusher or it woulda burned the whole place down, and my buddy got second degree burns all over his hands and arms.
 
Keep all naphtha away from any open flames, you could seriously fuck yourself up (ie. burn all your skin off and die) if you light any flames. Lye can blind you easily.

Extractions are pretty hazardous activities IMO, only do one if you take all necessary precautions please.
 
Lye is dangerous and can heat up alot, Had glassware crack my first time. DCM gets the best pulls IMHO but heptane or naptha is safer to work with
 
oh yea, and when working with acidic solutions, dont use anything aluminum or hell stay away from metal in favor of glass, pyrex is even better because it can take heat....

Certain types of plastic are ok to use with acidic solutions, iirc your looking for the #2 in the middle of the recycling logo....

Lye can etch and crack glass irrc....

Add everything slowly to keep things from overheating as the person above said....

And to add to the horror stories of shit flashing up due to evaporating over a flame..... Yea the carpet in my old room has a burn mark from a flaming alcohol spill before i could find a towell to smother it after the evaporation dish flashed on me....

get impatient and bad things can happen..... you get sloppy and stupid.... and bad things happen....
 
your looking for the #2 in the middle of the recycling logo
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That's polyethylene. And yeah it's the best. Also known as HDPE (High Density Poly Ethylene).

I've heard strong lye solutions can etch and crack glass but I've never seen this. Even in research labs they keep strong (30% ) KOH solutions in glass bottles and it's fine. I did my mimosa extraction with a quart pickle jar and it was fine.

And yeah, don't get impatient, it just leads to danger. I retract what I said before about using a hair dryer to dry naphtha dish. Just put it outside where nothing will fall into it. The air flow of the outdoors should make it go quicker.
 
Hm actually I don't feel like I could blow up at any given moment, to be honest.
I've got experience working in laboratory though so that's one thing...

But I just make sure I don't use diethyl ether or butane, since that is just asking for trouble
but a lot of other solvents don't have such a radical vapor pressure. I also don't use open fire
whatsoever and I never miss it. If I would, I certainly would remove all sorts of solvents.

What about the low flashpoint though? I have evaporated flamable solvents before with a hotplate - but outside with good airflow and not that much solvent anyway. As long as there are no sparks that shouldn't be that dangerous should it?
 
hdpe is some good shit, it can hold like any solvent, acid, base, if satan himself took a piss in the shit it wouldnt melt.

yeah.


most people extract from mimosa or accacias, all extremely legal in the united states.
on a scale of 1 to legal, you can buy it and not get arested. :)
 
what is the exact legal status of MHRB? I mean they got it online in 5 lb bundles but that makes me scratch my head a little..says its grown in Florida. thought it was analog stuff
 
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AFAIK it's legal until you isolate the active substance... I think analogue laws pertain more to RCs & their common structures but I could be wrong (usually am to a degree)
 
I've been thinking of a method to extract quite pure DMT. It's like a reverse a/b extraction. It goes like this:

Start with basifying your bark with NaOH. Then extract the spice with (warm) heavy naphtha, which pulls the goodies from the soup effectively.

Then prepare an acidic solution from citric, acetic or whatever is your favorite acid, and use it to pull the DMT in salt form from the heavy naphtha. Separate the DMT-salt solution from the heavy naphtha.

Then basify the salt solution until the DMT is back to freebase, then use a light aliphatic naphtha to pull it out, and freeze precipitate it.

What do you think?
 
so your basically just doing a STB

then

salting out dmt from naptha (your going to need an acid that is soluble in naptha)

adding base, and im guessing some water (your gonna need some water in there for it to react right.

and extracting with naptha again.

sounds like the same principals in FASA exept ones that just wont work because naptha is a bitch to work with when your doing chemistry like this compared to acetone.
 
salting out dmt from naptha (your going to need an acid that is soluble in naptha)
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No, what I'm going to do here is a similar thing as in the agent lemon DXM tek. Dissolving acid to water, adding it to the heavy naphtha, shaking it around, then separating the acid/water -solution away from the naphtha, and the acid solution will then contain the salt form DMT.

Then basify the acid solution until the DMT is freebase again, then extract the DMT from it with light naphtha which can then be freeze precipitated.

Now explain to me why this wouldn't work? There are disadvantages (needs lots of NaOH, needs two kinds of naphthas) but the advantages are that you should get a nice, clean product out of this.
 
I've done the same type of extraction many times whenever I allow my nonpolar layer to sit with the bark toolong and it turns yellow... Works great and definitely allows you to get very clean product in the end
 
dread said:
No, what I'm going to do here is a similar thing as in the agent lemon DXM tek. Dissolving acid to water, adding it to the heavy naphtha, shaking it around, then separating the acid/water -solution away from the naphtha, and the acid solution will then contain the salt form DMT.

Then basify the acid solution until the DMT is freebase again, then extract the DMT from it with light naphtha which can then be freeze precipitated.

Now explain to me why this wouldn't work? There are disadvantages (needs lots of NaOH, needs two kinds of naphthas) but the advantages are that you should get a nice, clean product out of this.
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There have been reports of people adding the FB to water, adding hcl until it mostly dissolves and filtering out the stuff that doesn't. This mixture was based and extracted with nampha to yield crystals of better purity.
 
dread said:
I've been thinking of a method to extract quite pure DMT. It's like a reverse a/b extraction. It goes like this:

Start with basifying your bark with NaOH. Then extract the spice with (warm) heavy naphtha, which pulls the goodies from the soup effectively.

Then prepare an acidic solution from citric, acetic or whatever is your favorite acid, and use it to pull the DMT in salt form from the heavy naphtha. Separate the DMT-salt solution from the heavy naphtha.

Then basify the salt solution until the DMT is back to freebase, then use a light aliphatic naphtha to pull it out, and freeze precipitate it.

What do you think?
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Here's something for you. I'd do it just like this but I don't have a way to measure ph currently. I have adopted some things from this guys tek though.

Use the acid/base tech, but in reverse.

Just basify from the wood Sodium Hydroxide solution with Napth.

As you increase the ph towards the magic number of 11.2ph the spice jumps free and migrates to the Napth.

Learn to pop the mole with ph adjustment and you can pop it endlessly back and foreward from the water to the Napth and back again.

Acidife too ph 3 base to ph 11.2.

From woods base to 11.2ph having Napth for the mole to migrate too.

Freeze the Napth.

Stand the solvent in ice and stick it in the freezer and turn the freezer right up full.

Or get a little brick of dry ice and wrap the Napth in that.

Snow storm in about 30 minutes or less.

Don't throw the solvent away it still has spice in it.

Gently tip out most of it there will be big chrystals in the bottom.

Throw the mole in pure water and add Napth and acid to ph3 the oils float off in the solvent.

Draw the solvent off.

Add clean.

Rebase.

Draw off Napth.

Put in freezer for the snow storm, gently drain and then dry the resultant chrystals with a fan.

It is the same as the acid/base tech but I do it backwards cos the other way takes too long.

I don't use filters I use a pippete to draw the solvent.

This way you get the spice to migrate almost instantly into the solvent.

If you evap you get yellow chrystals.

If you wash these chrystals acid/.base again you get clean spice.

All that cooking with acid washes is not nessesary and filtering just wastes product.

The spice is already base in the wood.

The spice will sit in water at ph 3 very comfortable and migrate to the solvent at 11.2 ph.

Get a ph meter and stand it in your solutions and then pop the mole back and forth with ph.

Simple'

Go back through the recent posts I must have typed this 6 times now ;')~~~

Happy cooking'

Blessings'
Motumba'

On the other tech people are losing spice in the de-fat process because of poor acidity, the spice is migrating into the solvent and they are throwing it away!
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