The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

[reformer]

^ Everyone's different. Personally I don't find MXE to be euphoric in the slightest and yet others say it's massively euphoric.

Yeah, its hard to describe, I wanna call it somewhat euphoric, but it's not the pushy or stimmy sort... perhaps like a sustained version of the the initial "come-up" of alcohol when drinking, combined with the smooth 'dont care'-esque nature of benzos? I don't know if that is really euphoria, it just kinda feels relaxing and mellow, a great replacement for alcohol I think.

 

[Xamkou]

I'm having the most intense euphoric rush I've ever experienced. Since MxE is a DRI and Mephedrone is a releaser, I had a key of Methoxetamine and just as I could feel the DRI effects taking effects, I did a 250mg line of Mephedrone!!! Since Methoxetamine stops the reuptake of the massive dopamine release the Mephedrone caused, my brain exploded in euphoria. It's been 40 minutes and it hasn't yet begun to calm down!!!!

 

[blowjay]

After off and on usage for the past six months, I can safely say that a tolerance to MXE is fairly quickly built up. This has been with less than 10 sessions.

Dosage started at an initial 25 mg tester and then a 30 or 35 mg dose a month later (can't remember exact) that blew me away. The intensity of that second trial has been the driving force for the other sessions. Have reached same level maybe 3-4 times but dosage had to be increased to upwards of 65-80 mg for a few sessions. After 2 month hiatus I dosed 45 mg plugged that did not reach expected intensity of the previous doses of this level.

Plugged with warm water, hit within 15 minutes, peaking within 35-45 min and then after about 3 hours I am able to type on the computer. Wish I could hit the hole as well as I could before, kinda annoying, haven't done this since the 4th of July and I do it tonight and its just 'meh'. Right now I would guess the active metabolite is what is giving me effects as this isn't the same type feeling as before, more opiated.

Does anyone else experience a dark sexy female presence when they hole out on this? I get tempted by dark sexy mystery woman; the evil side of womankind, I would guess. Kinda a "I want to fuck lucifers rockin daughter" thing. Oh good ol' MXE.

 

[Seyer]

30-35mg insufflated 20min ago. Feeling very good right now.

 

[Br1tannia]

Has anyone else tried 2 different ROA at the same time? My preferred method of taking methoxetamine is to split my dosage, insufflate half and immediatley take the other half sublingually, hold it for 10 mins and enjoy. I find it gives a quicker and more intense come up, really nice IMO. Instead of waiting 45 minutes to feel semi high, within 30 mins i am almost peaking.

Give it a try and see what you think

 

[Transcendence]

^I enjoy dosing sublingually and then supplementing with bumps once it kicks in. Sublingual induces more of a cerebral high for me while nasal gets me more of a body high/vibration. Dosing both feels like shading in the cracks.

 

[Delsyd]

whats the word on IVing MXE?

 

[Xamkou]

I gots another question: I take mxe about three times a week and ever since I began taking it I have found alcohol, even in large amounts ihas very little effect on me! Any ideas why and if imxe has something to do with it?

 

[Delsyd]

Im no scientist and im tripping on MXE and im drunk so i probably dont know what im talking about

but maybe it has something to do with both alcohol and MXE tickling your NMDA receptors. Perhaps a cross tolerance of some sort.

tell ya what, a couple pints and a bump of MXE is my recipe for a good time.

 

[Limpet_Chicken]

As far as opioid properties of this one go...I have a strong suspicion that it a moderately strong opioid. Definate opioid rush with IV administration. I have fairly severe chronic pain in one knee, along with neuropathy..and it works well on both. It appears to have weak local anaesthetic properties also. Actually, while I'm physically dependent on dihydrocodeine, MXE itself is sufficient to maintain me without having taken any DHC whatsoever for many days. Whilst I ahem...lost track of time...during that period, I'd say around a bit under 2 weeks without using DHC.

I've got a few thoughts as to how I might best make use of MXE at the moment. One is to use as a taper, as I've found that I cannot effectively cease use of the DHC in order to take a break and attempt to maintain pain relief by getting a steroid shot into the tendon/joint along with high dose NSAIDs and probably herb or one of its synthetic progeny, as its too short lasting, and I can't stabilise a dose past getting down to 60-90mg BD/TDS, 30 BD is a real stretch on my limits there.

The other idea was to attempt to do a shallow subcutaneous infiltration of a (0.22 micron wheel-filtered sterile water solution), a few units each of a moderately large dose (intended also to get off on it of course ) in 1-2ml sterile water divided into between the anterior cruciates, just above the patellar tendon and to the outer side of the affected knee, all subcutaneously, I want to see if there is any increased efficacy when administered locally to a site of pain, compared to merely the sum total of the systemic NMDA antagonist and opioid effects.

 

[Br1tannia]

^I enjoy dosing sublingually and then supplementing with bumps once it kicks in. Sublingual induces more of a cerebral high for me while nasal gets me more of a body high/vibration. Dosing both feels like shading in the cracks.

you just described it perfectly

 

[Br1tannia]

I gots another question: I take mxe about three times a week and ever since I began taking it I have found alcohol, even in large amounts ihas very little effect on me! Any ideas why and if imxe has something to do with it?

i think the opposite, last night i was on a nice amount of methoxetamine and the alcohol seemed to over power it once i got more drink down me. i've made the mistake of mixing the two together once before and i hate how weak my respiration becomes, maybe thats just me but its put me off mixing now

 

[Addam]

whats the word on IVing MXE?

Meh.
Some have described an opiate-like rush, I experience it more as a N20 like rush. But confusing. The effects are very-short-lived and I would end up redosing every hour or so. But as Limpet Chicken said, very helpful for my chronic pain as well. That seems to be this substance's only redeeming quality for me. Doses or around 4-7mg IV were functional with a slight rush and pain-relieving properties. Pushing it past 10-12mg became too dissociating to function in a normal manner. ~20mg and up would put me in a bizarre dissociated state with "CEVs", if they could be called that, and separation from the ego (either that or I was just too confused to understand who/what I was or what I had taken). Doses had to be stepped down when redosing frequently, as even though the primary effects were worn off there was still an active amount in my body, ie. redosing with the same amount would actually cause stronger effects than the first dose.

I seem to experience effects far different than those who sing the praises of MXE though, so as always YMMV. I've found no euphoria, no pleasantness, no profundity. And it certainly isn't due to not giving the substance a chance. I really did want to like it. But I found myself redosing for effects I didn't particularly enjoy and a depression that lasted 2 weeks when I ceased use of it.

 

[methoxetaman]

So for some reason I decided to plug an aqueous mixture of 50mg mxe and 15mg 4-aco-dmt... this was after I had already plugged around 100mg mxe an hour prior.

They both hit me before I could even go into the other room to sit down, it was extremely intense, both body buzzes intertwining very vigorously... I got very scared and from then had a mindset of "what the fuck did I just do"

My girlfriend woke up from a nap and I am not sure what happened but soon after I was bawling my eyes out, having a panic attack, crying harder than I have since forever (although panic attacks have happened on high doses of mxe before). The crying fest lasted for a good 30minutes until I was able to calm down a bit. Through the whole thing I was reliving a lot of painful memories from my entire life. It was fucked up.

I finally found some comfort in listening to the Gorillaz album D-Sides with my girlfriend (who wasn't too happy that I told her I took the drugs AFTER I did it...)

So that's my story about 4aco and mxe plugged.

I probably won't ever do it again. Too much for me. I just can't handle myself on drugs anymore like I used to. I am scared to ever trip again. That was the first time I had in 3 months, after doing lots, and lots, and lots of psychadelics for about a year

 

[crOOk]

I'm quite experienced with Ketamine and PCP as well as low-dose DXM and was wondering how easy it is to cut yourself off from all sensory input with this stuff. I've personally had trouble achieving this with intranasally administered Ketamine (much easier IM), but it's pretty much what the dissociative experience is about for me. I went into dream like scenarios on pcp, but much more down-to-earth (still bizarre) than a K journey would be.

Could any relatively experienced Ketamine user comment on if high doses of MXE (120-200mg) would take me to a place where I actually feel like my body is moving, getting warped etc. as is the case with K? Also, I've heard a lot of users prefer IM administration, but is there any actual advantage aside rom onset/duration, does the experience differ in quality when using different ROA's (again, as it is the case with ketamine IM>intranasal>rectal>oral)?

I've been doing a lot of reading, but most of what I've read either seemed to have been written by dissociative virgins or it summed up to "really nice stuff".

Any info is much appreciated!

 

[basement_shaman]

Disclaimer: I may be what you refer to as a dissociative virgin. Or at least not extensively experienced, heh.
I've done DXM ~15-20 times and I've done a few grams of MXE.

I find that when I become fully "submerged" into the M-hole, which takes about 50-60 mg for me under the right circumstances, I lose all sensory input but sound, and I become completely and utterly dissolved into my CEVs. I can't feel the sensation of my body resting against the bed. I cannot sense the pull of gravity. I only sense the NOW and the visuals that my brain creates from the music. I have sensations of my feet being alternatingly very far away (say, 50 feet) and very close (say, a few inches) from my head. It's oddly pleasurable. And of course there is the extremely euphoric 30-minute pleasure wave that accompanies experiences like this, at least for me.

I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but I enjoy it. You probably have a fair deal of NMDA antagonist tolerance, so you may want to have 3-4 beers or some nitrous to boost these effects.

 

[limonov]

I'm quite experienced with Ketamine and PCP as well as low-dose DXM and was wondering how easy it is to cut yourself off from all sensory input with this stuff. I've personally had trouble achieving this with intranasally administered Ketamine (much easier IM), but it's pretty much what the dissociative experience is about for me. I went into dream like scenarios on pcp, but much more down-to-earth (still bizarre) than a K journey would be.

Could any relatively experienced Ketamine user comment on if high doses of MXE (120-200mg) would take me to a place where I actually feel like my body is moving, getting warped etc. as is the case with K? Also, I've heard a lot of users prefer IM administration, but is there any actual advantage aside rom onset/duration, does the experience differ in quality when using different ROA's (again, as it is the case with ketamine IM>intranasal>rectal>oral)?

I've been doing a lot of reading, but most of what I've read either seemed to have been written by dissociative virgins or it summed up to "really nice stuff".

Any info is much appreciated!

I have experienced a lot of strange bodily-warping effects (feeling like my arms are long floppy noodles, feeling like my head is scraping the celling because I'm 10' tall, feeling like my body is spiralling/shrinking into a single point, feeling like my legs are getting longer/shorter as I walk) on higher plugged doses. It's probably easier to notice these bodily distortions as I'm more likely to be moving around on methoxetamine than I am on ketamine, I definately notice that methoxetamine gives me far worse 'sea legs' than ketamine ever has- fortunate I've spent a lot of time at sea so the experience gives me a strange sense of nostalgia.

Snorting/sublingual/oral methoxetamine is quite similiar in dosage-effects, while plugging and IM are distinctive experiences- in addition to being far stronger (I'd say 50mg plugged = 250mg snorted, 25mg IM = 300mg+ snorted in terms of effects) plugging/IM gives a 'rush' that some people have compared to opiates. As a longtime opiate user I disagree, I think that it's much more comparable to nitrous oxide, but there definately is a rush that can only be obtained by plugging/IM. Smoking methoxetamine seems to mainly give a nitrous-style rush, with only minor dissociative effects.

If you want to compare it to ketamine the only real difference with ROA is rectal and nasal should swap places (IM>rectal>snorting>sublingual>oral).

It is possible to block out all sensory information on methoxetamine, but it's more similiar to pcp than ketamine in that you'll become increasingly dissociated and unaware of your surroundings while continuing to move, it's quite stimulating. Most likely you'll just do some mean robot dancing for a couple of hours while you're playing go with God, but if you live with people or in an apartment/other high density living arrangements you'll probably want to do some prep (locking/blocking your door and/or getting a trip sitter) if you want to explore the more 'immersive' effects of this drug. Take it from someone who's nearly been hit by half a dozen cars while walking into traffic on high doses of this stuff

 

[crOOk]

@ ozchems- yes very similar to a k hole... the main difference is that k is much more incapacitating physically...when your at that level your stuck flat on your back... but mxe is more like pcp in that you can be deep in the hole and still be walking and taking and such... but the trip itself feels much more like k to me only warmer and friendlier and more tactile....

Wow that sounds lovely.

 

[crOOk]

@ ozchems- yes very similar to a k hole... the main difference is that k is much more incapacitating physically...when your at that level your stuck flat on your back... but mxe is more like pcp in that you can be deep in the hole and still be walking and taking and such... but the trip itself feels much more like k to me only warmer and friendlier and more tactile....

Wow that sounds lovely.

Take it from someone who's nearly been hit by half a dozen cars while walking into traffic on high doses of this stuff

Fortunately I've never had a tendency to leave bed on pcp, so maybe this won't happen. Either way I'll lock the door and put the key onto a cupboard or whatever. If I can figure that out while intoxicated I'm good to leave the house. :D Thanks for the info, I'm more and more starting to think that this sounds a lot more like PCP than like Ketamine. Well I assume a Ketamine analogue has advantages over "Angel Dust" when it comes to marketing aspects.

The other idea was to attempt to do a shallow subcutaneous infiltration of a (0.22 micron wheel-filtered sterile water solution), a few units each of a moderately large dose (intended also to get off on it of course ) in 1-2ml sterile water divided into between the anterior cruciates, just above the patellar tendon and to the outer side of the affected knee, all subcutaneously, I want to see if there is any increased efficacy when administered locally to a site of pain, compared to merely the sum total of the systemic NMDA antagonist and opioid effects.

I will be awaiting the report eagerly. I don't think I have to remind you of harm reduction, adventurous clinical trials on yourself and my sincere concern for your health though, right? :D

3rd edit: i wouldn't exactly call I.M. dosing shooting up but yeah i think we all get the point.

@all
While this pcp analogue might very well hit up your opioid receptors directly, I hear an acquired desensitation of said receptors can often be at least partially reversed by NMDA-antagonists. I've heard people take DXM or Memantine before going into withdrawals to ease the process. There's a huge thread about it:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...lection-of-the-evidence-and-anecdotal-reports


Btw has anyone tried combining this one with Methylone? I've never mixed Ketamine with an empathogen like MDMA, but have repeatedly been hearing great things about this combination. From what I could gather this might very well be the case for MXE as well...

 

[Psychonautical]

lol. i did a 175mg line for my first time while on 1200mics of LSD sitting on top of
A 60,000watt speaker fo skrillex in the Pagoda at Shambhala with my girlfriend...

Brought all new definition to... bass compression, time travel...