Jesusgreen
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I also get constricted pupils on this. I wonder if it's dose-related? I've only experimented with small doses so far, and they have little of the dissociation or stimulation, and much more of the opiate feel.
The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)
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mxe makes me super ocd at times...
this happens to me, but only when i take to much. the experience just turns into a weird robot feeling, and the next day i feel depressed and shitty. i tend to stick to low doses now (15-50mgs)
exactly, resembles opiates too much to be true. i made a post over in ADD a while back concerning MXE and affinity to opiate receptors. you should check it out
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As opposed to an antidrug?
the toad
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Can you provide a link... I just went to wiki and saw nothing of the sort...
Jesusgreen
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Thanks laCster, I found your thread just now.
For everyone else, here's the link:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/594568-MXE-and-opiate-receptor-affinity
Some interesting discussion. Prior to trying MXE I'd have definitely agreed with Sekio that it was likely to only display at higher doses. I didn't notice anything in the way of opioid effects with Ketamine until > 800mg insufflated, which is a very high dose. However, having tried MXE I've noticed significant opioid effects at as little as 15mg sublingual.
(If you're wondering, I'm trying to switch to using the term opioid for the effects, since technically opiate only refers to the natural opioid drugs and their effects, while opioid refers to all of them)
For everyone else, here's the link:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/594568-MXE-and-opiate-receptor-affinity
Some interesting discussion. Prior to trying MXE I'd have definitely agreed with Sekio that it was likely to only display at higher doses. I didn't notice anything in the way of opioid effects with Ketamine until > 800mg insufflated, which is a very high dose. However, having tried MXE I've noticed significant opioid effects at as little as 15mg sublingual.
(If you're wondering, I'm trying to switch to using the term opioid for the effects, since technically opiate only refers to the natural opioid drugs and their effects, while opioid refers to all of them)
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I think people are confusing opioid effects with dopaminergic reuptake inhibition. Both are pleasurable and easily mistaken for each other. Do rememeber that ketamine is a useful opioid withdrawal aid on its own, and I don't think that's mediated by a mu-opioid pathway...
The MXE I have seen is presumbaly a hydrated HCl salt and is unsuitable for smoking, it decomposes and goes to a reddish-black tar upon melting. Fumes smell nasty. I wouldn't want to smoke this unless you freebased it first.
Even then, when you get into freebasing ketamine/methoxetamine, you've journeyed pretty far into the pit yeah?
The MXE I have seen is presumbaly a hydrated HCl salt and is unsuitable for smoking, it decomposes and goes to a reddish-black tar upon melting. Fumes smell nasty. I wouldn't want to smoke this unless you freebased it first.
Even then, when you get into freebasing ketamine/methoxetamine, you've journeyed pretty far into the pit yeah?
the toad
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Yea that's the truth... it works awesome just eating or snorting or subligually... seems a bit excessive to worry about trying every possible roa and preparation lol...
I remember reading a post somewhere about someone converting MXE to freebase and smoking it.
I've smoked mxe hcl on tinfoil, and it sort of worked. It worked much better when I put some JWH-122 on top of a cannabis bowl and applied heat until the JWH turned into the goopy oily stuff it does right before it burns. I stuck 45mg MXE hcl in that, and applied a bit more JWH and applied a fine layer of cannabis on top. I feel like the JWH acted as a carrier for the MXE, the effects were wicked and very rushy also incredibly manic, lasting for like 10 minutes. And I have smoked cannabis/JWH-122 together whilst on MXE, the effects were greatly different. I have no science to back my theories up.
I've smoked mxe hcl on tinfoil, and it sort of worked. It worked much better when I put some JWH-122 on top of a cannabis bowl and applied heat until the JWH turned into the goopy oily stuff it does right before it burns. I stuck 45mg MXE hcl in that, and applied a bit more JWH and applied a fine layer of cannabis on top. I feel like the JWH acted as a carrier for the MXE, the effects were wicked and very rushy also incredibly manic, lasting for like 10 minutes. And I have smoked cannabis/JWH-122 together whilst on MXE, the effects were greatly different. I have no science to back my theories up.
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isam is so tobin no..so wtf....it´s just awesome.
thanks for the link...i watched a ton of youtoube videos of isam.
the isam visualization is a perfect description for a dissociative experience.
disclaimer: i am not sober
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Today had been a pretty good day and I got some shit done and was feelin good. I went to a concert (hardcore/punk) tonight and said fuck it and took some mxe b/c I was in a good mood and thought why not.
Definatly more fun as a small dose when doing something for me. Only took ~17mg sublingual before I left to start off. (another 17 3 hours later) Smoke a little before I left as well, and it was enough for where I was going. Definatly noticed the stimulation a lot more being around people. Felt good and sorta throwed, but never really sure exactly how much. Felt sort of awkard and "disasociated", but I probably would have felt like that anyway, especially as I would have been smoking more weed. Also, only knew three or four people there, and I don't really talk to them much anymore so it IS an awkward situation in an intimate little club. When I did talk to people though, it was easy and I could listen to myself and didn't think I sounded throwed at all. Maybe talking a little fast, but I do that anyway and I was smoking too. No one that I knew acted as if they thought I was intoxicated either.
Felt pretty happy on occasion, but the music wasn't really doing much for me. Most of the bands weren't really that good, and the vibe was wack. THe one band I wanted to see got ruined by douchebags and fighting. Think I would have had more fun at the top 40 rap dance club next door for sure.
I still want to hole with this, and still don't really feel low doses for sitting around not doin shit. Not tooo shabby for goin out though, it's something different at least. Might not be throwin this stuff away after all ;-)
Definatly more fun as a small dose when doing something for me. Only took ~17mg sublingual before I left to start off. (another 17 3 hours later) Smoke a little before I left as well, and it was enough for where I was going. Definatly noticed the stimulation a lot more being around people. Felt good and sorta throwed, but never really sure exactly how much. Felt sort of awkard and "disasociated", but I probably would have felt like that anyway, especially as I would have been smoking more weed. Also, only knew three or four people there, and I don't really talk to them much anymore so it IS an awkward situation in an intimate little club. When I did talk to people though, it was easy and I could listen to myself and didn't think I sounded throwed at all. Maybe talking a little fast, but I do that anyway and I was smoking too. No one that I knew acted as if they thought I was intoxicated either.
Felt pretty happy on occasion, but the music wasn't really doing much for me. Most of the bands weren't really that good, and the vibe was wack. THe one band I wanted to see got ruined by douchebags and fighting. Think I would have had more fun at the top 40 rap dance club next door for sure.
I still want to hole with this, and still don't really feel low doses for sitting around not doin shit. Not tooo shabby for goin out though, it's something different at least. Might not be throwin this stuff away after all ;-)
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Thought I should come in and share my experiences with MXE in this thread, might help some people.
Now, I used to have a serious ketamine habit, up to and including 5 grams a day, it was a bad time but im so glad i've got through that.
I ordered 2 grams, came the next day which is lovely. First dose of 100mg was amazing, warm opiate buzz, wonky, felt incredible. Lovely drug, not as good as ketamine for me but I do see it having it's uses. One notable effect was the fact I found it impossible not to dance whilst listening to music whilst on it. Free parties where mad on it, some of the best times I've had. However, if you have an addictive personality like me, I would advise staying away from this substance, it is INCREDIBLY habit forming. Since my order came I found myself using it every day without fail, even before work because it helped me talk with colleges and get a lot of work done. However once the effect had worn off i was sad, lonely and depressed, PLUS unable to sleep for hours. It played havoc with my already dodgy heart, for a dissociative I don't see how it can increase heart rate so much, could anybody are to explain this to me?
Now, for combinations. I found that combining this with alcohol was a bit hit and miss. You need to do very small doses if you've been drinking, especially heavily, or you could find yourself in a spot of trouble. I holed on this combination and my friends though i was dead at one point, i have no recollection of the experience. I'm very lucky that I was at a good friends flat and able to be looked after. IF this happened out and about it could be a very bad experience indeed. Be careful if sharing it with drunk friends who have low tolerance if they've been drinking, I gave two a bit too much and it was a strange experience indeed, funny though haha.
However, I took a dose of around 85mg on a hit and a half of acid and it was the best experience of my life. Before it happened I was in a terrible head place, it helped me sort out loads of my problems and the afterglow is still somewhat there after nearly a month.
Hope some of this information can help someone.
Now, I used to have a serious ketamine habit, up to and including 5 grams a day, it was a bad time but im so glad i've got through that.
I ordered 2 grams, came the next day which is lovely. First dose of 100mg was amazing, warm opiate buzz, wonky, felt incredible. Lovely drug, not as good as ketamine for me but I do see it having it's uses. One notable effect was the fact I found it impossible not to dance whilst listening to music whilst on it. Free parties where mad on it, some of the best times I've had. However, if you have an addictive personality like me, I would advise staying away from this substance, it is INCREDIBLY habit forming. Since my order came I found myself using it every day without fail, even before work because it helped me talk with colleges and get a lot of work done. However once the effect had worn off i was sad, lonely and depressed, PLUS unable to sleep for hours. It played havoc with my already dodgy heart, for a dissociative I don't see how it can increase heart rate so much, could anybody are to explain this to me?
Now, for combinations. I found that combining this with alcohol was a bit hit and miss. You need to do very small doses if you've been drinking, especially heavily, or you could find yourself in a spot of trouble. I holed on this combination and my friends though i was dead at one point, i have no recollection of the experience. I'm very lucky that I was at a good friends flat and able to be looked after. IF this happened out and about it could be a very bad experience indeed. Be careful if sharing it with drunk friends who have low tolerance if they've been drinking, I gave two a bit too much and it was a strange experience indeed, funny though haha.
However, I took a dose of around 85mg on a hit and a half of acid and it was the best experience of my life. Before it happened I was in a terrible head place, it helped me sort out loads of my problems and the afterglow is still somewhat there after nearly a month.
Hope some of this information can help someone.
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fully agree with the combo of alcohol, few times ive done too much whilst too drunk, its ended up in a very twisted, dark, dirty fucked up state of affairs, surprise it didnt mess me up badly
bumps of 20mg every 2 hours, up to 60mg is the ideal dose for me
bumps of 20mg every 2 hours, up to 60mg is the ideal dose for me
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just done a cheeky line of MXE for the first time in ages since my bad encounter, started to build up, feels pretty good so far. 25mg ish. having a chilled night after spanking £60 on shitty booze, cant remember much. all i can remeber is trying to dance like a legend whilst drunk is hard work and near enough impossible. anyways, gonna be very careful with MXE in the future, deff never mixing it with alcohol ever again
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feeling very good at the moment 
bliss. reached inner peace.
tried ketamine for the first time a few weeks ago, been doing it and off for the past few weeks after giving MXE a break. love ketamine, wonderful stuff. but sadly cant get anymore. seems like its strangely changed the MXE experience for me now. almost like MXE has exactly replicated a ketamine feeling. its fucking awesome how this stuff seems to replicate other drugs. less confusing thoughts at the moment as well, strange. feels less dirty. feels like im constantly caught in a good moment. on give or take 40mg atm, but my scales seems a bit dodgy. loving this. perfect dose. euphoric, clear headed, relaxed but strangely wanna be productive. smooth come up - no dips and fucking about for some reason. this is good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA-je1_Ejq0
nice tune for mxe
might have to up the dose a cheeky little bit soon and see what happens.
bliss. reached inner peace. tried ketamine for the first time a few weeks ago, been doing it and off for the past few weeks after giving MXE a break. love ketamine, wonderful stuff. but sadly cant get anymore. seems like its strangely changed the MXE experience for me now. almost like MXE has exactly replicated a ketamine feeling. its fucking awesome how this stuff seems to replicate other drugs. less confusing thoughts at the moment as well, strange. feels less dirty. feels like im constantly caught in a good moment. on give or take 40mg atm, but my scales seems a bit dodgy. loving this. perfect dose. euphoric, clear headed, relaxed but strangely wanna be productive. smooth come up - no dips and fucking about for some reason. this is good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA-je1_Ejq0
nice tune for mxe
might have to up the dose a cheeky little bit soon and see what happens.
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the toad
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The first time I took mxe I told my friend I felt like a little kid set loose in a room full of trampolines lol... I felt just giddy and happy and like I wanted to bounce and fly...
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