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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 17 - South-Kansas is going bye-bye

I have a question.
When holing on mxe i guess it's pretty common to experience movements, floating, melting, tilting, twisting, twirling of the body when laying down.

Do you get this feeling sometimes when laying in bed even if the last time mxe is a while ago?

I had this sometimes even though to a lesser extend even years after my last use.

Now it's gone. I liked it.
 
I would like to update anyone interested the progress of my book 'A Multidisciplinary MXE Analysis'. The currently available link has been stuck at version .99 since December, and I have a lot less free energy now but have been continuing to work on it when the stars align, reading/researching, squashing bugs, expanding sections with hard science, and cutting out some of peripheral sections that had little-to-nothing to do with the core- often those sections were written under the influence and seemed profound at the time...but we know how dissociative (hypo)mania can alter our sense of profundity ;)
If you would like a copy of the current version let me know, but for those waiting for version 1, it will be worth the wait! Thanks to everyone who has provided feedback and encouragement since rougher drafts.
 
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A question for my fellow MXE aficionados.

Does MXE ever make you hypomanic, and if so, are there any particular combinations or circumstances in which it seems more likely to do so?

I sometimes get a few days of hypomania after an evening on MXE and I love it. I get so much shit done and I feel like a goddamn jedi, and it's mild enough that I don't veer into self-destructive behavior. It seems like it's more likely if I combine it with other drugs; it definitely doesn't happen consistently with pot, but it's happened at least a couple of times with 5-meo-mipt. I may play with the latter combination this week, and I'll report back if I do.

ETA I don't have a history of bipolar or of mania other than this.
 
One of the key aspects of the M-hole is the feeling of being eternal nothingness but yet your still experiencing this nothingness. If you guys haven't ever heard Alan Watts lecture on nothingness being the fundamental reality of something then I suggest you check it out. Truly amazing how the m-hole relates so perfectly.
 
Peacephrog1972 said:
Now that I've done 3-meo-PCP I need to write a love letter to my true love

I miss you and love you sexy mexy.....you are the past present future and just damn near the perfect drug

I chose you over a family , over a wife, over anything......you were it.,...my all .... My everything

I hope we never meet again because of the destruction you caused.....but in the same breath if take you back in a heartbeat

Much love

Yours forever
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I can totally relate to that. I've been in some states with this substance but would take it again in a heartbeat. I've been using 3-MeO-PCP but it not as good as MXE. I've tried a lot of chemicals in my time and nothing compares to MXE. It was a fucking roller coaster of a drug. It helped as an anti depressant but I always pushed it to far.
 
Hey there,

I still have a few grams of pre-ban MXE from 2013 to 2015.

Do you think it will still be active?

Any clues?

Thank you :)
 
Kishka said:
Hey there,

I still have a few grams of pre-ban MXE from 2013 to 2015.

Do you think it will still be active?

Any clues?

Thank you :)
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Yeah, if its inactive you're doing something wrong. I've ingested MXE from 2014 somewhat recently and felt there was no potency loss.
 
I inadvertently and completely unintentionally experienced my first hole.

Long story short at the peak of a candyflip, I though adding some mxe would be beneficial. I've added mxe to a candy flip with much success in the past. However, this time I decided to eyeball a line to rail, rather than eat a tiny pinch of it as I normally do.

I rail what I thought was about 25mg (turns out my eyes are poor scales) and continue on my fun.

About 45 min later I go smoke a joint and all hell broke loose. According to my girlfriend, about half way through my joint, I suddenly stopped talking and went catatonic for about 30 minutes.

What I experienced was hands down the most profound experience I have ever encountered. It is incredibly hard to put into words but I will try. I felt as if I had fallen through a portal to another world. I was so out of it I completely forgot that I had taken any drugs at all. I saw myself and started talking in understandable jabbering to myself.

It quickly appeared to me that my entire reality was a figment of my imagination, my friends, my family, my job was all made up to keep myself occupied in this neither realm where I simply existed.

About half way through my catatonia, my gf dragged me into my room and put me on the bed. She said I had the million yard stare.

My next memory is laying in bed with a time loop. My gf asked me if I was ok, then she said hey you're ok, you are just on drugs, then my buddy coming into my room and saying you alive man?

While I don't think it actually happened more than once, this exact scenario played on a loop about 5 times. By the 4th time, I started to get incredibly paranoid as I thought I had broken the damn universe and was stuck in this endless stupid loop.

The stress of this caused my heart to start beating and gave me a shot of adrenaline which snapped me back to reality.

I have done mdma and lsd countless times and probably made my way through 5 G's of mxe but never in my life have I experienced anything like that.

Wild shit.
 
Dawglaw said:
I inadvertently and completely unintentionally experienced my first hole.

Long story short at the peak of a candyflip, I though adding some mxe would be beneficial. I've added mxe to a candy flip with much success in the past. However, this time I decided to eyeball a line to rail, rather than eat a tiny pinch of it as I normally do.

I rail what I thought was about 25mg (turns out my eyes are poor scales) and continue on my fun.

About 45 min later I go smoke a joint and all hell broke loose. According to my girlfriend, about half way through my joint, I suddenly stopped talking and went catatonic for about 30 minutes.

What I experienced was hands down the most profound experience I have ever encountered. It is incredibly hard to put into words but I will try. I felt as if I had fallen through a portal to another world. I was so out of it I completely forgot that I had taken any drugs at all. I saw myself and started talking in understandable jabbering to myself.

It quickly appeared to me that my entire reality was a figment of my imagination, my friends, my family, my job was all made up to keep myself occupied in this neither realm where I simply existed.

About half way through my catatonia, my gf dragged me into my room and put me on the bed. She said I had the million yard stare.

My next memory is laying in bed with a time loop. My gf asked me if I was ok, then she said hey you're ok, you are just on drugs, then my buddy coming into my room and saying you alive man?

While I don't think it actually happened more than once, this exact scenario played on a loop about 5 times. By the 4th time, I started to get incredibly paranoid as I thought I had broken the damn universe and was stuck in this endless stupid loop.

The stress of this caused my heart to start beating and gave me a shot of adrenaline which snapped me back to reality.

I have done mdma and lsd countless times and probably made my way through 5 G's of mxe but never in my life have I experienced anything like that.

Wild shit.
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I enjoyed reading that and have experienced that many times with the chemical. Some absolutely wonderful and some that kinda change you forever.
 
Dawglaw said:
I inadvertently and completely unintentionally experienced my first hole.

Long story short at the peak of a candyflip, I though adding some mxe would be beneficial. I've added mxe to a candy flip with much success in the past. However, this time I decided to eyeball a line to rail, rather than eat a tiny pinch of it as I normally do.

I rail what I thought was about 25mg (turns out my eyes are poor scales) and continue on my fun.

About 45 min later I go smoke a joint and all hell broke loose. According to my girlfriend, about half way through my joint, I suddenly stopped talking and went catatonic for about 30 minutes.

What I experienced was hands down the most profound experience I have ever encountered. It is incredibly hard to put into words but I will try. I felt as if I had fallen through a portal to another world. I was so out of it I completely forgot that I had taken any drugs at all. I saw myself and started talking in understandable jabbering to myself.

It quickly appeared to me that my entire reality was a figment of my imagination, my friends, my family, my job was all made up to keep myself occupied in this neither realm where I simply existed.

About half way through my catatonia, my gf dragged me into my room and put me on the bed. She said I had the million yard stare.

My next memory is laying in bed with a time loop. My gf asked me if I was ok, then she said hey you're ok, you are just on drugs, then my buddy coming into my room and saying you alive man?

While I don't think it actually happened more than once, this exact scenario played on a loop about 5 times. By the 4th time, I started to get incredibly paranoid as I thought I had broken the damn universe and was stuck in this endless stupid loop.

The stress of this caused my heart to start beating and gave me a shot of adrenaline which snapped me back to reality.

I have done mdma and lsd countless times and probably made my way through 5 G's of mxe but never in my life have I experienced anything like that.

Wild shit.
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it's real. welcome home: ourselves
 
Yeah, I have gotten hypomanic and manic on it many times. I have taken it while being on SSRIs, SNRIS, as well as off. It still does it to me in anything over 30 mg...I have schizoaffective bipolar type

apatheist said:
A question for my fellow MXE aficionados.

Does MXE ever make you hypomanic, and if so, are there any particular combinations or circumstances in which it seems more likely to do so?

I sometimes get a few days of hypomania after an evening on MXE and I love it. I get so much shit done and I feel like a goddamn jedi, and it's mild enough that I don't veer into self-destructive behavior. It seems like it's more likely if I combine it with other drugs; it definitely doesn't happen consistently with pot, but it's happened at least a couple of times with 5-meo-mipt. I may play with the latter combination this week, and I'll report back if I do.

ETA I don't have a history of bipolar or of mania other than this.
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NiceEnough said:
I could do with some advice here. I love MXE but always seem to overdo it and get really messy. I want to get the most out of it but I barely remember anything because I take so much. But I know there is something special there.
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I always just set out the amount I desire to do over the night before I begin, then I put the rest away. From there it's entirely up to you to keep from uping your dose.
 
Anyone know if the darknet MXE that is making the rounds, but which appears to be cut with caffeine, is any good? Would be a low-dose of caffeine, so I can't imagine it being that bad. I like mid-dose MXE for hanging out at home, so don't want to be stimulated. Not too interested in holing yet.

Otherwise, does anyone know a simple wash or A/B would clear out the caffeine? Any word on solvents?
 
I had asked this before about the wash and an acetone wash should work fine. Also, I'm assuming that's the same MXE cut with caffeine that was originally being sold by a clearnet vendor a month back or so, and yeah it's pretty good. Not the best, the caffeine does make it feel odd - but still pretty good.
 
Yesterday I tried MXE for first time. 39mg insufflated was quite inmersive, more than I was expecting. It rang a bell of my ketamine's experiences ages ago. I even reproduced my first experience to details I thought I had long forgotten.

I'm not a disociatives head. Only have wide experience with ketamine in low to moderate dosages. I never liked much ketamine as was quite nauseous most times. It's been ages since my last dose but I liked MXE more, a bit more deep, slower onset, longer duration and better general feeling. Though still quite confusing and blurry.
I'm not sure about the quality, in a few days I'll get the results. It might be that the not so good experience is due to that.

A few months ago I tried Mxp, it felt quite toxic but was kind of interesting, and most important dissipated my fears toward dissociatives ketamine induced.
One month ago I had some experiences with 3-meo-pcp (3, 5.5 and 8mg) and those were far better in my opinion. Just much more clearheaded and inspirating. So different from ketamine. So psychedelic kind of thinking. It really caught my interest and curiosity in dissos, so much I had to take a break. After reading so many stories of disso-adictions, huge tolerances, psy-wards and with my drugs abuse history...
I'm trying to start well and do it well since the beginning as I know once you get the wrong path you are left with the difficult decision of leaving the path completely or keep in the wrong one. I've got enough adictions and unrational uses already. Lost all benefits and magic from downers and uppers and feel impulsive towards them.

What I enjoyed in MXE was the relaxation post effect that allow you to drift into sleep. Its afterglow might be the best and most anti-depressant of the 3.
So all in all I was a bit dissapointed as I had very high expectations. My thoughts got too abstract to get anything I could take back to my sober life, at least in a concious way, though it crossed my mind that the therapeutic benefit could be very well unconcious.

Though didn't stop my curiosity and I'll continue my careful research into higher dosages. Probably this time I'll take sublingual as I heard is more effective. And insufflating is addictive by itself.

Is it known how long is the half life of that one?
How long should I wait between dosages to not create any kind of tolerance and be in the safe side? And with 3-meo-pcp (suppose much longer)?

Read a bit about the opiate affinity so I was wondering if this could trigger a WD from opioids. Sorry I cannot go through all the 17 threads.:D

And last but not least...How much should I take to get into a hole? and how scary could that be? I heard around here to some posters that high dissociatives dosages are somewhat easier to ride than midrange.

I feel like I'm playing away with dissociatives. It's a bit like travelling abroad as a child, to some distance country were nobody understands me and everything is weird. In psychedelic land I feel much more at home.
 
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Fuckkk MXE is something so fucking wierddd man, is sooo strange everything seems so naive, all is all, MXE gives you all, and then run run, and up to you to do whatever stuff your live is involved this stuff is so real
 
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