The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

[Albion]

Are you serious? am I reading this right? you're equating the back problem comments from people on this forum to daily mail negative drug stories?? you can't be serious. They are not the same thing AT ALL.

They aren't the same thing, but it is a good example of how negative attention results in repulsion. Health problems associated with methoxetamine will result in people avoiding the drug, and I think that would be quite a shame.

 

[acholmes2000]

Had another amazing experience last night with MXE. Have been playing with around 80mg dosages plugged with a 30-40mg top up after 2 hours. Last night decided to do 100mg in one shot and was very pleasently suprised.

Was very intense at first although still very enjoyable was floating along to Orbitals 'insides' (amazing trip cd) followed on with some upbeat Loopus in Fabula.

Once the headspace began to decline into fluffy comfort zone mode switched on 127 hours and it was by far the best movie experience all year for me

Found the higher dosage way more satisfying and never felt the urge to redose like i do at 80mg!

 

[Mr.Toad]

Have anybody else's experiences on MXE been a bit on the dark side lately? My more recent trips have been less magical and more downright evil. The first time this happened, I honest-to-god thought that I had broken reality, and had reduced the universe and everything in it to this warped, distorted, constantly shifting reality. I thought there was no going back, and felt so guilty for permanently messing up the universe.

Other recent trips have followed a similar vein, namely that I feel as though I am trapped in the MXE hole forever, doomed to a life in a vegetative state on a hospital bed, drip fed nutrients and having my chamberpot emptied at regular intervals. Just feels as though I have reduced my brain to mush one time too many.

I tried lowering the dosage, but this simply left me on a threshold experience that was just as unpleasant. I never felt 'gone', but was thrown about recklessly by the drug and left me feeling rather sick.

I'm worried that these recent bad trips may be symptoms of damage I am causing internally. If MXE is doing unspeakable things to my body, it would follow that my body would react negatively and trigger a bad trip. I would say the last 4 MXE holes I've been in have been like this, the first one being just over a week ago.

Interesting. Could you maybe elaborate a bit.

Dose, setting, how often you have been using Methoxetamine ect.

 

[amanitadine]

Other recent trips have followed a similar vein, namely that I feel as though I am trapped in the MXE hole forever, doomed to a life in a vegetative state on a hospital bed, drip fed nutrients and having my chamberpot emptied at regular intervals. Just feels as though I have reduced my brain to mush one time too many.

I know this vein well :D Haven't experienced this with methoxetamine so much, but I used to get in this place often when I was using other dissociative frequently. Disocciatives really bring out all of the hidden corners in my psyche, and roll em up into a "choose yr own adventure" fantasy. My brain (entirely on its own!) develops these amazingly bizarre and complex story lines, and when I re-enter the hole the story picks up where it left off before. The story goes through many permutations, and the general vibe sets the "set", down to the appearance of the many halls and chambers I twist and turn through. The darkest place I end up is in the vegetative state, either as a human, or as inanimate object, a fly on the wall somewhere. Seem to roll the evolutionary dice every time I go out, and get to experience being something else for a while. But yeah, such threads and experiences are pretty common with serious dissociative use....I wouldn't necessarily conclude it is an expression of harm you are doing to your body. But, careful on the brain... such warping experiences (that for me really begin to mimic certain schizophreniform aspects) can get hard to integrate!

and my goodness, not sure where the snippyness is coming from. Some people experience some nagging physical symptoms, most don't. We don't know why some people do, and why some people don't. Caution is advised, absolutely. This is a harm reduction site. But to get hysterical won't serve any cause, right? Personally I haven't had any worrying side effects, save for the aforementioned diuresis. I feel methoxetamine is a lot stronger of a diuretic than ketamine, which says something in that the doses are proportionally smaller as well. Some people are gonna be a lot more sensitive to this aspect than others, and some less. I feel if complications do arise, it will be in this arena.

Drink LOTS of water!!
Cheers, and be safe

 

[incognition]

Have anybody else's experiences on MXE been a bit on the dark side lately? My more recent trips have been less magical and more downright evil. The first time this happened, I honest-to-god thought that I had broken reality, and had reduced the universe and everything in it to this warped, distorted, constantly shifting reality. I thought there was no going back, and felt so guilty for permanently messing up the universe.

Other recent trips have followed a similar vein, namely that I feel as though I am trapped in the MXE hole forever, doomed to a life in a vegetative state on a hospital bed, drip fed nutrients and having my chamberpot emptied at regular intervals. Just feels as though I have reduced my brain to mush one time too many.

I tried lowering the dosage, but this simply left me on a threshold experience that was just as unpleasant. I never felt 'gone', but was thrown about recklessly by the drug and left me feeling rather sick.

I'm worried that these recent bad trips may be symptoms of damage I am causing internally. If MXE is doing unspeakable things to my body, it would follow that my body would react negatively and trigger a bad trip. I would say the last 4 MXE holes I've been in have been like this, the first one being just over a week ago.

I had something similar going, but it was in the beginning. Back then i had repeatedly visions of dark worlds where everything was rottening and decaying. Only living things were troumpette de la mort mushrooms, growin out of rottening corpses and god knows what. Very sinister and evil. I could feel my neurons burn and my brains melt and this and that. But now its pure bliss.

 

[lbeing789]

They aren't the same thing, but it is a good example of how negative attention results in repulsion. Health problems associated with methoxetamine will result in people avoiding the drug, and I think that would be quite a shame.

I had some magical experiences with MXE and probably will do again, but if methoxetamine IS associated with health problems (ie actually causes them) then people should avoid the drug... it's no use to anyone if it causes permanent harm, at the moment, I see no reason to believe this is the case, but the seriousness of the side effect is such that it warrants attention... will say again tho, I don't know how bad the side effect is.

 

[Mercc96]

I've been leaving MXE on the back burner for a few weeks to revise for some tests, but i plan to push it abit harder with some company this time and some nos to propel me abit futher. Anyone have any idea how a codeine (with dph to potentiate) combination would go with MXE, im really up for some cotton floaty dreams at the moment.

 

[growit&smokeit]

Some of the descriptions of the lower back pain sound almost identical to what I have had. Which makes me think it is not some pychosomatic thing. However I have read that lower back pain is one area associated with pscyosomatic pains (look up tms). To put it in context this level of pain for me is probably only like 2 out of 10 it is just sligtly conecerning.

Does all mxe have a strange sort of fur ball smell to it when sniffed? Probably a bad description but just trying to see if it is a batch thing. Mine was from from one of the 'official' suppliers.

I had some kratom and weed last night and it blew my head off. Much better than this MXE stuff anyway. :D

 

[Mercc96]

well MXE is meant to be more disassociative, which kratom isn't. I've only had one experience with Kratom (was an idiotic combo/overdose with 1,3DMAA + LSA and copius amounts of booze) felt amazing for 2 hours and vommed for 48 hours. Can't go near kratom, margarita mix or HBWR without gagging

 

[knock]

Much better than this MXE stuff anyway. :D

Why would you come here and post that? If I came into your house and had a look at your furniture and told you I have different furniture and I find it much better than this stuff in your house, I think you would tell me to piss off! So, piss off!

 

[Mercc96]

hahahahahaha

 

[growit&smokeit]

Kratom can turn round and give you a kicking if you do too much. I probably did too much last night. I was on the verge of passing out / having a panic attack with a bit of ego loss at one point. I suppose if you do 10 grams and smoke pure joints of white widdow you can't expect much else!

 

[growit&smokeit]

Why would you come here and post that? If I came into your house and had a look at your furniture and told you I have different furniture and I find it much better than this stuff in your house, I think you would tell me to piss off! So, piss off!

That is a bad analogy on quite a few levels.

 

[knock]

That is a bad analogy on quite a few levels.

Not really!

Anyway I was just pulling your leg, so STFU.

Sorry I don't know what's got into me tonight, quite aggressive!

 

[Albion]

That is a bad analogy on quite a few levels.

Ok it's like knocking on the door of a crack house, just to say that personally you think that crack gives a wholly unsatisfactory high, and that heroin is much better anyways.

 

[incognition]

That is a bad analogy on quite a few levels.

Man.. You don't have any idea what MXE really is. Kratom is nice, nothing wrong with it. But it aint going to give you out of body experiences or any of the other spectacular effects you can get from dissociatives. Please stop posting.

 

[Mercc96]

Don't forget about the old saying horses for courses. Both substances can be quite profound, I don't have the balls or stomach to manage kratom at the moment though.

 

[knock]

horses for courses.

This is what GrowIt&ShoveIt fails to grasp.

 

[Mercc96]

Bit harsh xD. Anyway back to MXE! . Has no one tried smoking it it yet? I've only intranasally taken it, and have a feeling the drip accounts for taking it orally.

 

[lbeing789]

Man.. You don't have any idea what MXE really is. Kratom is nice, nothing wrong with it. But it aint going to give you out of body experiences or any of the other spectacular effects you can get from dissociatives. Please stop posting.

Not be contrary, overall I agree.. but I have had some spectacular lucid dreams that were very psychedelic on Kratom, super vivid hyper colourful dream trips like being on DMT for hours whilst asleep.., but this particular effect is random, has only happened 3 times out of maybe 50 kratom doses, probably due to the variety of active compounds in Kratom... overall, I think it's just an OK drug, habitual use is pointless, nausea and itching at high doses, also a random effect in general, sometimes a stimulant, but nice and relaxing sometimes, good for a heavy nights sleep and works as well as codeine as a painkiller.