I just received a 200mg sample of MXE this morning. I have no experience of disassociatives whatsoever, but I think sometime soon I'll give it a test run to see how I get along with them.
Obviously, I've read this thread and a few of the trip reports that are knocking around but I was wondering if someone could give me a bit of an "Idiot's Guide To MXE" with regards to dosing, what effects I can expect as a first time user etc etc etc? I don't want to stumble into this blindly and with one arm tied behind my back.
Many thanks in advance chaps.
METHOXETAMINE
DOSAGE AND SAFETY INFORMATION
This drug is not ketamine, it has a different dose range and effects profile.
Dosed sensibly this drug can be very interesting and enjoyable. Dosed stupidly it can be unpleasant and possibly dangerous.
Several people have had very negative reactions.
Dosage
If you don't have scales get them as you cannot reliably eyeball at this level.
Allergy test: 5mg - a tiny amount, sniffed, sub-lingual, whatever.
Sub-lingual dosages (held under your tongue for five minutes, or as long as you can whichever is longer then gargled and swallowed)
First dose: 10-20mg - enough for most to feel the less extreme effects - LESS than ketamine
Typical dose range 20-100mg
Insufflated dosages (sniffed)
First dose: 15-25mg - enough for most to feel the less extreme effects - LESS than ketamine
Typical dose range: 30-150mg
Come-up: 30 to 90 minutes, LONGER than ketamine
Duration: 5-7 hours, LONGER than ketamine
Intramuscular Injection
First dose: 5-10mg - enough for most to feel the less extreme effects - LESS than ketamine
Typical dose range: 10-50mg
Come-up: 5 minutes
Duration: 2 hours
Intravenous Injection
There has been a reported death from 80-100mg intravenous injection combined with 400mg MDAI. Please tread carefully.
Increase your doses gradually. The effects quickly become different and less manageable.
If you choose to ignore this advice at least DO NOT EXCEED 50mg for your first dose.
Effects
Low doses: Amusement, degradation in physical co-ordination, connectedness and empathy.
Medium doses: Scattered thoughts and confusion. Mental stimulation / mania. Maybe CEVs. There may be unpredictable secondary psychedelic effects.
High doses: Immersion into hyperspace.
Set and Setting
Because the specific effects are unpredictable, it makes sense to be somewhere safe and familiar.
Combinations
Become familiar with the effects before you consider combining with other drugs, including alcohol.
Many report they do NOT like combinations with alcohol, even booze lovers like me.
Work in Progress
I don't have much experience sniffing so can someone comment on the sniffed dosages please? I made a best guess.
I based intramuscular dosage off fastandbulbous' initial report, feedback is needed. In fact feedback is needed for everything here!
If you had broken through you would be VERY certain!I believe I may have entered some kind of hole last night but Im not certain?
If you had broken through you would be VERY certain!
Does anybody have any idea how to explain this trip? its really irritating me because I believe I may have entered some kind of hole last night but Im not certain?
damn now im sort of dissapointed. will have to do more next time
And lastly, has anyone gotten it in the USA yet? I haven't, damn postal system slow asses!
You would absolutely know if you broke through. You would be 100% disassociated, with perception so warped that not one single thing you felt, thought, saw, smelled, tasted or heard could link you to reality. You forget who you are, you forget that you are alive.
Forgive me this question guys, plenty of drug experience but I'm a total and complete dissociative noob.
This ego loss business, I've obviously never had it with acid or mushies or any other hallucinogen. If as described you completely lose contact with reality, but can still move around reasonably ok then I am guessing a sitter is a good idea?
Just got visions of myself meandering down my road on all fours, bollock naked aside from a hat with a cucumber stuck up my arse to stop the universe escaping whilst I greet the local neighbourhood watch with guttural, death rattle type hacking.
Or is this scenario about as likely as meeting a very horny Cheryl Cole in Tesco toilets next Sunday?
Nah don't worry, you'll be incapacitated. I had serious trouble standing going to the toilet halfway through a hole![]()
wow. this stuff is strong. took around 15mg sublingually 30 mins ago and all i can say is wow!!!!
I'd be a little concerned because of the opioid effect this compound seems to display. I've never had any problem sleeping once the primary effects have worn off.Only just got mine today thanks to the Xmas/snow postal delay. I know it's very early days to talk about combo's - and risky sure, but how do you think this would mix with benzo's to cope with the sleep problems? Diaz/tamazapam etc.
I'd be a little concerned because of the opioid effect this compound seems to display. I've never had any problem sleeping once the primary effects have worn off.