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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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It's extremely difficult (if not impossible) to describe the dissociative state to those who have not experienced it.

With regard to dosing I would say start at 10mg and work your way up.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
 
I just received a 200mg sample of MXE this morning. I have no experience of disassociatives whatsoever, but I think sometime soon I'll give it a test run to see how I get along with them.

Obviously, I've read this thread and a few of the trip reports that are knocking around but I was wondering if someone could give me a bit of an "Idiot's Guide To MXE" with regards to dosing, what effects I can expect as a first time user etc etc etc? I don't want to stumble into this blindly and with one arm tied behind my back.

Many thanks in advance chaps.

Here you go...

It's still in progress but gives a pretty good guideline regarding dose and ROA.


METHOXETAMINE


DOSAGE AND SAFETY INFORMATION

This drug is not ketamine, it has a different dose range and effects profile.

Dosed sensibly this drug can be very interesting and enjoyable. Dosed stupidly it can be unpleasant and possibly dangerous.

Several people have had very negative reactions.

Dosage

If you don't have scales get them as you cannot reliably eyeball at this level.

Allergy test: 5mg - a tiny amount, sniffed, sub-lingual, whatever.

Sub-lingual dosages (held under your tongue for five minutes, or as long as you can whichever is longer then gargled and swallowed)
First dose: 10-20mg - enough for most to feel the less extreme effects - LESS than ketamine
Typical dose range 20-100mg

Insufflated dosages (sniffed)
First dose: 15-25mg - enough for most to feel the less extreme effects - LESS than ketamine
Typical dose range: 30-150mg

Come-up: 30 to 90 minutes, LONGER than ketamine
Duration: 5-7 hours, LONGER than ketamine

Intramuscular Injection
First dose: 5-10mg - enough for most to feel the less extreme effects - LESS than ketamine
Typical dose range: 10-50mg
Come-up: 5 minutes
Duration: 2 hours

Intravenous Injection
There has been a reported death from 80-100mg intravenous injection combined with 400mg MDAI. Please tread carefully.

Increase your doses gradually. The effects quickly become different and less manageable.

If you choose to ignore this advice at least DO NOT EXCEED 50mg for your first dose.

Effects


Low doses: Amusement, degradation in physical co-ordination, connectedness and empathy.
Medium doses: Scattered thoughts and confusion. Mental stimulation / mania. Maybe CEVs. There may be unpredictable secondary psychedelic effects.
High doses: Immersion into hyperspace.

Set and Setting
Because the specific effects are unpredictable, it makes sense to be somewhere safe and familiar.

Combinations
Become familiar with the effects before you consider combining with other drugs, including alcohol.

Many report they do NOT like combinations with alcohol, even booze lovers like me.

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I don't have much experience sniffing so can someone comment on the sniffed dosages please? I made a best guess.
I based intramuscular dosage off fastandbulbous' initial report, feedback is needed. In fact feedback is needed for everything here!
 
Does anybody have any idea how to explain this trip? its really irritating me because I believe I may have entered some kind of hole last night but Im not certain?
 
If you had broken through you would be VERY certain!

hmm , i remember very little except lots of bliss, awesome music falling into black, then white 'chapel' like places that felt like carpet. Lots of spinning and feeling of motion. Well to be honest i spent the whole time feeling like i was being shot out of a cannon or something
 
Does anybody have any idea how to explain this trip? its really irritating me because I believe I may have entered some kind of hole last night but Im not certain?

You would absolutely know if you broke through. You would be 100% disassociated, with perception so warped that not one single thing you felt, thought, saw, smelled, tasted or heard could link you to reality. You forget who you are, you forget that you are alive.

It is totally bizarre, and on the comedown you have no doubts as to what happened was a (m)hole.
 
damn now im sort of dissapointed :(. will have to do more next time

Well the feeling of being shot out of a cannon sounds about right =D You must have been very close to the hole.

Lying down with my eyes shut and the lights out seems to help create more depth to the trip, since you have nothing to see that could drag you out of the trip.
 
Well i was lying on my big memory foam bed , and was glasping on to the bed railings as it spun about the room with all the lights turned off. Got some pretty bad tittinus but music helped. Had some fatali , infected mushroom playing
 
Yes, not knowing who or what you are, forgetting you have taken a drug, or even if you really exist is a definite sign that you have broken through. I find the MXE breakthrough a little salvia-like now that I come to think about it. Far more pleasant of course though!
 
And lastly, has anyone gotten it in the USA yet? I haven't, damn postal system slow asses!

Nope. I swear they must ship it on row boats or something. But unfortunately, this is normal. I order things from *snip* a lot which ships from the UK and that usually takes like 2 weeks. For those who don't know, *snip* sells pipes and stuff, not drugs. Didn't want anyone to think I was sourcing.
 
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I've got to say the most surreal moment is when i went outside for a fag , dazed from the carpet spinning bed flying machine. There was this strange pink fog from all the snow and it was bright as day, so I thought id take out my phone to take a picture. WHOA i swear i saw the matrix in my phone or something or it was darker then i thought. But defintly spent the remaining time outside questioning whether this was actually fucking real.
 
You would absolutely know if you broke through. You would be 100% disassociated, with perception so warped that not one single thing you felt, thought, saw, smelled, tasted or heard could link you to reality. You forget who you are, you forget that you are alive.

Forgive me this question guys, plenty of drug experience but I'm a total and complete dissociative noob.

This ego loss business, In my experience with acid or mushies or any other hallucinogen I've ever done, no matter how hard I was tripping I always knew it was the effects of the drug, this sounds like a completely different game, like a powerful delerient. If as described you completely lose contact with reality, but can still move around reasonably ok then I am guessing a sitter is a good idea?
I have seen people under the influence of Datura, is this similar to what we are talking about here?

Just got visions of myself meandering down my road on all fours, bollock naked aside from a hat with a cucumber stuck up my arse to stop the universe escaping whilst I greet the local neighbourhood watch with guttural, death rattle type hacking. =D

Or is this scenario about as likely as meeting a very horny Cheryl Cole in Tesco toilets next Sunday?
 
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Forgive me this question guys, plenty of drug experience but I'm a total and complete dissociative noob.

This ego loss business, I've obviously never had it with acid or mushies or any other hallucinogen. If as described you completely lose contact with reality, but can still move around reasonably ok then I am guessing a sitter is a good idea?

Just got visions of myself meandering down my road on all fours, bollock naked aside from a hat with a cucumber stuck up my arse to stop the universe escaping whilst I greet the local neighbourhood watch with guttural, death rattle type hacking. =D

Or is this scenario about as likely as meeting a very horny Cheryl Cole in Tesco toilets next Sunday?

Nah don't worry, you'll be incapacitated. I had serious trouble standing going to the toilet halfway through a hole :p
 
Only just got mine today thanks to the Xmas/snow postal delay. I know it's very early days to talk about combo's - and risky sure, but how do you think this would mix with benzo's to cope with the sleep problems? Diaz/tamazapam etc.
 
Only just got mine today thanks to the Xmas/snow postal delay. I know it's very early days to talk about combo's - and risky sure, but how do you think this would mix with benzo's to cope with the sleep problems? Diaz/tamazapam etc.
I'd be a little concerned because of the opioid effect this compound seems to display. I've never had any problem sleeping once the primary effects have worn off.
 
I'd be a little concerned because of the opioid effect this compound seems to display. I've never had any problem sleeping once the primary effects have worn off.

It can take a while to wear off though! 60mg in total last night, around midnight admittedly, and the gremlins were jamming again at 6am, though they were on the kazoos last night, noisy little fuckers.
 
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