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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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Skyline_GTR said:
Exactly the same as sublingual for me - 15 mins for onset, 30 mins to peak! I can't explain why oral seems to be a more efficient ROA than snorting, but it works well for me.. it also saves having it in your mouth for a few mins, not that the taste is particularly bad of course, but its just less hassle to dissolve and gulp.. :)
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Well I held 30mg under my tongue for as long as I could, then my mouth became a pool of saliva-mxe solution but I persisted and only after 16 minutes did I swallow.
First effects noted ~22 minutes after sub-lingual delivery, so that's 6 after swallowing, I think it has to be getting absorbed under the tongue! I couldn't bring myself to spit, such a waste...
 
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^interesting.. Although on reflection I never doubted that absorption would happen after ~15 mins, its just my doubts are over people sublingually holding it for just 2-5 mins then swallowing! I never got round to experimenting with the spit method after just a few mins, but will do this week so we can know the answer once and for all, even if there is a risk of wasting precious material!
 
abrad84 said:
Indeed. And of course people will think it's just like ketamine and safe to combine with MDMA etc.
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Hmmm. I've been very curious as to whether this would be good/safe to mix with stims (e.g. MDMA on the comedown) but I don't think that I'll be touching this combo with a bargepole. I'll think that I'll just stick to MDMA/Ketamine, and not mix MXE with any stims (or much else for that matter). Definitely not worth the risk.

That said, I (rather foolhardedly?) mixed 2C-E and relatively low doses of MXE the other night. The MXE added a beautifully confused and spangled tinge to the proceedings. Checked my heart rate a couple of times and it was fine.

I obviously cannot recommend mixing these two drugs as I wouldn't want anybody to follow my advice and get into trouble, but personally, everything turned out better than expected with this combo. Just sayin'.
 
knockando said:
I went to bed and I had two electric fan heaters on as my gas boiler's fucked. The sound was like a band of psychotic gremlins playing frenzied free-form jazz on detuned acoustic guitars and harpsichord. Quite mad.
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I definitely experienced a substantially increased tinnitus for a while on this last night - not for the whole session though, came, then went, probably over 20 mins - half an hour
 
abrad84 said:
Please either ask your friend to be more responsible or keep him the fuck away from this stuff until we know more about it's safety.
As has been said (repeatedly!), this is not ketamine!
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I agree with what you are saying , but when will 'WE', as you put it know about its safety, until we know about experiences that those 'reckless' people tell us about. ?

I think it is inevitable that very soon there will be large amounts of this compound on the market and circulating amongst k-heads and ravers and not just amongst the honorable 'researchers' on this forum and others.

How do 'we' ,as you put it, work out what is safe for the less aware of us without reckless people pushing the bounderies?

When this drug becomes available as an alternative or similar drug to K and is similar to K in price what will happen???? I think this is a very real prospect
of happening VERY soon.
 
I went through about 100mg last night and it was as good as ever. I haven't noticed any stimulations but my eyes get ridiculously bloodshot though and it makes them feel dry and uncomfortable sometimes. I drank a beer on it and like clockwork I'm burping and feeling uncomfortable. I wish this stuff didn't jack up my ability to fall asleep for so long after taking it. One day I'm going to bust out the 4-aco-dmt and plug a concoction. I'm interesting in IM'ing just to know if it will come on more intensely, but I don't really want to go buy the needles. :(
 
newworldorder said:
I agree with what you are saying , but when will 'WE', as you put it know about its safety, until we know about experiences that those 'reckless' people tell us about. ?

I think it is inevitable that very soon there will be large amounts of this compound on the market and circulating amongst k-heads and ravers and not just amongst the honorable 'researchers' on this forum and others.

How do 'we' ,as you put it, work out what is safe for the less aware of us without reckless people pushing the bounderies?

When this drug becomes available as an alternative or similar drug to K and is similar to K in price what will happen???? I think this is a very real prospect
of happening VERY soon.
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I don't think anyone needs to be reckless. You can gradually increase dosages and keep an eye on your self. If you push gently at the boundaries, when they start to give you can take a step back. So to speak; on the macro scale, like. You can't un-dose, obviously, but if 100mg is OK and 110mg is OK but there was that one time where things were uncomfortable, you can wind back and say 100mg seems to be a bit of a limit. For example.

I don't know what I'm talking about but that's how I approach it anyway.

Of course, this doesn't establish the safe boundaries necessarily because what the fuck does uncomfortable mean? But it does establish the known safe terrain.

I'm an amateur at this I should just shut up.

Eating a massive pizza then dosing sublinguorally and being a bit underwhelmed so redosing can lead to unexpected fuckedness when the pizza wears off in the early hours of the morning. I know that for sure.
 
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Blowmonkey said:
Hyperacusis is a common phenomena on dissociatives.
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I read about hyperacusis, it sounds awful, I don't think this is what people are experiencing. It sounds more like tinnitus, in fact davem used that word, and I don't think that's the same as hyperacusis.

My gremlin jazz band was weird and that kind of experience could possibly frighten someone with no experience of drugs which affect perception but I could hardly call it intolerable or even unpleasant. It was crazy but fun.

I get tinnitus regularly, always have done since my teens, it's probably present all the time to some extent but it fades into the background. If I listen out for it I can hear it. I hear a pure tone of constant very high frequency, sometimes it's not so high. Quite an odd thing to go through life with, but you get used to it. I'm not sure whether there's any concomitant hearing dysfunction but I for one find it hard to make out speech in crowds.
 
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Dissociatives give me a hypersensitivity to sound in general. I hear the alarm clock of the apartment below me, every sound in the hallway, someone coughing next door. It really doesn't surprise me that something different is going on with your inner ear when using this type of chemical. It was interesting reading about that and there's been so many good little stories and descriptions in this thread, it really keeps me coming back reading all these experiences.
 
knockando said:
I read about hyperacusis, it sounds awful, I don't think this is what people are experiencing. It sounds more like tinnitus, in fact davem used that word, and I don't think that's the same as hyperacusis.

My gremlin jazz band was weird and that kind of experience could possibly frighten someone with no experience of drugs which affect perception but I could hardly call it intolerable or even unpleasant. It was crazy but fun.

I get tinnitus regularly, always have done since my teens, it's probably present all the time to some extent but it fades into the background. If I listen out for it I can hear it. I hear a pure tone of constant very high frequency, sometimes it's not so high. Quite an odd thing to go through life with, but you get used to it. I'm not sure whether there's any concomitant hearing dysfunction but I for one find it hard to make out speech in crowds.
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Yup, that's what my tinnitus is exactly, there all the time but mostly filtered out and occasionally when my attention isn't otherwise diverted it comes to the fore....in this instance it was the same but greatly magnified....and then as per usual, it disappeared off into the background again...not at all worrying....after all, I am getting on a bit and have seriously abused my poor ol' eardrums ;)

I once came back from a regular monthly all-night rave, probably having candy flipped and maybe smoked a small amount, went to bed and as I lay there I could here music, right on the edge of my hearing ability, very, very quiet. I thought I could ignore it and it would go away....eventually, I decided I needed to find the source and tracked it down to......a 3 pin power socket on the wall. To say I was a little gobsmacked is an understatement. Still no idea what it was to this day. It was definitely music, orchestral I think and it was definitely coming from the power socket!! Made me smile :D - obviously the little people partying ;)
 
I always experience deafening tinnitus on the comedown. If I have music on, it goes away, but once there is silence, the ringing hits me like a sledgehammer.
 
Would you consider MXE a dissassociative anestetic, or just a dissassociative? Although people report that it feels like an opiate, does it actually have pain killing properties like ketamine? For people who take it frequently, does it give you constipation? Will MXE permit you to have a full on "out of body" experience or just something close to a dreamy k-hole? And lastly, has anyone gotten it in the USA yet? I haven't, damn postal system slow asses!
 
Would you consider MXE a dissassociative anestetic, or just a dissassociative?
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IMHO, it is more of a dissocitive. Iy sertainly has painkilling properties but they are distictly different from those of ketamine, at least in my experience.

For people who take it frequently, does it give you constipation?
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Yes. If I had to guess I would say it is a moderate mu-opioid receptor agonist (please don't quote me on this).

Will MXE permit you to have a full on "out of body" experience or just something close to a dreamy k-hole?
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Most certainly! In fact I would say it has the potential to be far more powerful than K in this regard.
 
hi just started this so dunno if im doing it right. i just got back from the usa and was on adderall, really liked the stuff but they dont have it here. they said they can give me ritalin or concerta does any 1 no which would be the best also adderall is made from amphetamine and amphetamine dextro so if get that it would be the same as adderall thanks
 
I just received a 200mg sample of MXE this morning. I have no experience of disassociatives whatsoever, but I think sometime soon I'll give it a test run to see how I get along with them.

Obviously, I've read this thread and a few of the trip reports that are knocking around but I was wondering if someone could give me a bit of an "Idiot's Guide To MXE" with regards to dosing, what effects I can expect as a first time user etc etc etc? I don't want to stumble into this blindly and with one arm tied behind my back.

Many thanks in advance chaps.
 
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