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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy MET Thread

I don't want to come off like I am condoning/glorifying needle use...because I am not.

Having said that....."IMing" isn't so bad if you do it the way I do...which is really sub-q. I've done enough ketamine and DPT both ways to say I can't find any difference between an IM injection and a SQ shot...maybe IM comes on a little faster.

I only need a 1/2 needle, which is much less intimidating than a 1". I inject into my buttocks and it is not a big deal at all. Doesn't hurt at all (if you are steady you will only feel pressure). Of course, needles are only for junkie loosers and crack heads like Mr T. So stay in milk, drink school, and don't use needles.

Beenhead said:
Ive always form what ive read, pictured DMT patterns as being more mushroom like and organic, and DPT being more rigid and subjective, I could definately be wrong. But when smoking the MET the CEVs were of a very odd, almost mechanical nature, but the colors were very organic colors not very bright.

With, IM, I have thought of it with a few drugs, like Demerol or DMT, but I dont like all the teks Ive read. Like sticking a needle and inch deep, and how you know when youve gone past the fat... its seems scary, not in a junky way, but in a needle going into my bone on accident way :)
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Beenhead said:
Ive always form what ive read, pictured DMT patterns as being more mushroom like and organic, and DPT being more rigid and subjective, I could definately be wrong. But when smoking the MET the CEVs were of a very odd, almost mechanical nature, but the colors were very organic colors not very bright.

With, IM, I have thought of it with a few drugs, like Demerol or DMT, but I dont like all the teks Ive read. Like sticking a needle and inch deep, and how you know when youve gone past the fat... its seems scary, not in a junky way, but in a needle going into my bone on accident way :)
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I always inject into the deltoid muscle, same deal as IM vaccinations ... watch next time you get one. With a 1/2 inch needle you shouldn't be able to hit bone unless you really jam it in there. Always use a micron filter!

DPT is as "organic" as it gets IMO ... billowing, boiling, bubbling visuals. It's the #1 most mindblowing psychedelic in my book. To me, DMT seems more "alien" ... the buzzing vibrations I get on DMT feel more unnatural. Come to think of it, maybe it's just a difference in the onset of the two drugs. DMT can also meet my definition of organic when you get above a certain threshold. LSD + DMT ... whoa, now that's just glorious. Describing the visuals is meaningless. It's an all-encompasing extra-dimensional experience. Lastly, on one occasion with MET I felt like the visuals were very mechanical as you described, but other times they were completely different. I just reread this paragraph and realized that it will probably make no sense to anybody ... which leads me to say, you'll just have to try them all!!

=D =D =D
 
S_S: If you're IMing, i recommend against a MAOI since it will alter the trip as you know. Yes, MAO exists everywhere, but it is gut MAO that is responsible for most breakdown.

If MAO interfered with injections, then DPT and DMT would not have worked.
 
Thanks Morninggloryseed and dondate, I will take this into consideration. I have a Demerol shot made for IM use Ill get my ass shooting technique with that before I try a Mega Powerful psychedelic my first time with a needle.
 
I have found visuals on DPT not to be very organic either.. rather I see those bright, colourful, electric fractal patterns swirling and turning and spinning everywhere I look; with eyes closed it resembles winamp visualizations (very artificial) more than anything. Perhaps it has to do with where you trip (I've only done DPT in indoor settings) and in nature the visuals seem more organic than indoors.

I haven't gotten to try DMT yet so cannot comment on that. With MET, however, the visuals seemed more "organic" than with DPT in that the colors were less bright, more smooth and glowing (as opposed to neon-coloured fast-paced tossing-and-turning dancing geometric patterns of DPT). It's probably just me, but yellow seems to be the most dominant colour with MET, while with most other psychedelics, greens and reds and blues seem to dominate (except for mushrooms, which also tend to emphasize yellow for me). That's just a personal observation, however, and will probably not hold true for others.
 
Recept said:
It's probably just me, but yellow seems to be the most dominant colour with MET, while with most other psychedelics, greens and reds and blues seem to dominate (except for mushrooms, which also tend to emphasize yellow for me). That's just a personal observation, however, and will probably not hold true for others.
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I've tried ~25 mg and ~40mg (vaporised) 8 minutes later and I've noticed the same predominance of yellow and blue, pretty vivid.
 
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30 mg MET IM

… great adjunct for a live show, even better if that live show happens to be Animal Collective. First of all, I’d like to say that psood0nym and I are curious as to why this band hasn’t caught on more with the psychedelic community. Animal Collective and Panda Bear (side project of Noah Lennox) create some excellent music, check out links below. Anyway, the show was absolutely incredible ... lots of energy, plenty of dancing.

Anyway, getting to the point, I took 50 mg MET in a syringe, but only used 30 mg for fear of overdoing it in a public place. 30 mg was perfect ... nice peak, and still feeling some after-effects 2 hr later. The effects were very different from the time I combined it with 4-ho-dmt. This time it was a very expansive headspace, not threatening in any way. It was much more in line with my trials of smoking the substance. With eyes open, the visuals didn’t predominate, but that may have been due to the overwhelming sensations of ecstasy derived from auditory stimulation. I spent most of the show with my eyes closed, transfixed on the sounds, and enjoying subtle CEVs that adapted to the music.

I found the most similarities with DMT … surprise, surprise. There was a DMT-esque alteration of thought patterns, more chaotic than mushrooms. IMO, there are less thought trains/tangents than with mushrooms … less room for exploring thoughts (may be due to environment in this case, but I’m basing this off previous experiences as well).

The afterglow (probably a combination of the show and MET) was wonderful. I was supremely blissful and came home with the irresistible urge to cuddle and kiss my fiancé … who probably just wanted to go back to sleep. I finally got tired and went to sleep at the 4 hr mark, after replaying the show in my mind ad infinitum and watching Animal Collective videos on youtube. MET is definitely a worthwhile compound. I will probably experiment with a higher dose next time in a less demanding environment.

=D =D =D

A few videos won’t come close to capturing the essence of their music … still worth checking out though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BGkF6uNIl0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvGHQHiY70

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6KPDWNAPBU

<3
 
So you feel like 50mg would be sufficient for a +3 -

I think I am going to try this - I was planning on using it with a MAOI, but it seems like IM would be better from your reports -

Is it sufficiently like DMT that someone experienced with DMT could jump in with a high dose or do you think one should work one's way up (taking into account one may have only enough for about 1,5 doses)

peace dondante
 
I've never tried any MAOI combos, but I'm sure it would be a good route as well ... just not as predictable. For you samadhi, 50 mg IM would be fine ... that's what I plan on doing next round w/ a 25 mg booster ready.

As I said in another recent post, the Shulgin scale isn't very useful for describing intensity. I'd say 30 mg qualified as a +++, but only because as I would have been "unable to ignore the drug's action." It would have been very difficult to go about normal activities at that dose. ;)

Let us know how it goes! <3
 
Security? Pffffft ...

I don't encourage others to do what I did, but there was no security checkpoint. Even if there had been, a quick pat down wouldn't have revealed anything. You just need 30 sec in a bathroom stall, bam, and you're done. I ran into a friend of a friend when I was walking out of the stall ... and he was going into one (I don't think he had to take a shit either) ... hmmm. The only crappy part is squeezing your way back into the middle/front of the crowd. Again, I don't recommend this behavior. ;)

BTW, great to have you back! <3
 
I didn't really go anywhere. It's all pretty silly really.

Anyway, I have a concert tonight (Smashing Pumpkins) and would love to use a short-acting psychedelic (so I am down in time) but I better not go messing about with MET since I've never tried it before. :) Ahh well, 2C-D it is. Not that this is a bad thing...it just seems like it's my usual all-purpose psychedelic and I'd love to try something new...but not at a concert. Bad new bears.
 
morninggloryseed said:
I didn't really go anywhere. It's all pretty silly really.

Anyway, I have a concert tonight (Smashing Pumpkins) and would love to use a short-acting psychedelic (so I am down in time) but I better not go messing about with MET since I've never tried it before. :) Ahh well, 2C-D it is. Not that this is a bad thing...it just seems like it's my usual all-purpose psychedelic and I'd love to try something new...but not at a concert. Bad new bears.
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2c-b!


and then DMT.
 
2C-B lasts too long...had this problem before where I went hiking, but 6 hours later (after 2C-B) I still could not drive. I don't want to get into that issue again, especially since I have to take a windy 2-lane hwy to get home. Has to be a much shorter-acting psychedelic, so 2C-D is all there is....not going to take DPT, or any simple N,N-dialkyltryptamine, at a concert. Those are more "spiritual" or "working" materials for me...I am looking for something more on the recreational side.

And I don't care for DMT...certainly not at a concert. Personal preference.
 
What a concert! Holy shit, the Smashing Pumpkins are so good and professional. That was the best concert I've ever been to, save for Roger Waters.

To be honest, the concert to so powerful and impressive that I am not too sure I even needed the 2C-D. I really didn't note much of any effects until the concert was over and the lights turned on. I had CEVs, but I was really in a psychedelic state because of the music and show they put on.

Sorry to go OT.
 
Sorry. It (MET) really is high up on the list, for what is is worth.

Sorry I just can't live up to my old standards, but I just don't do these things very often anymore. But it makes the times I do that much more special. :)
 
sigh this is a pointless post but I really want to trip - but don't have time -

the next opportunity I get to trip will be an IM dose of 50mg of MET - I just don't know when that point will come under the onslaught of work right now-

MET 'feels' special to me right now - its as if I am on the brink of something quite large - like the feeling I got before taking DMT -

Lord knows I need it right now :\
 
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