SmokeTrails
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yeah my bad... thought i was in psy sorry report me LOL
The Big & Dandy 'Memory and Psychedelics' Thread
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nowonmai
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Yeah, but on a combination of alcohol and mdma. I went through a period of drinking far too much and having a side order of a couple of pills. One particular night springs to mind. I remember going out, I remember the various clubs and pubs, all up til about 4am. The next thing I remember is it being about 8am and me (and my friends) being in a totally different part of town, with me having no memory of the last 4 hours.
It happened on a lesser scale a couple if other times... but with the added element of a few mushrooms
Needless to say, I don'r cane ie as much any more.
It happened on a lesser scale a couple if other times... but with the added element of a few mushrooms
Needless to say, I don'r cane ie as much any more.
SmokeTrails
Bluelighter
^^^
that just sounds like you blackedo ut... i dident black out... i went litterally blind i was awake... i knew what was going on.. i could hear everything.. i just couldent see
that just sounds like you blackedo ut... i dident black out... i went litterally blind i was awake... i knew what was going on.. i could hear everything.. i just couldent see
yah nowons sounds like blackouts from booze lol, that happens to me at least once a week!
ive never had any thing like that happen while faced tho. its possible the brain ceases to "record" events adn happenings, even sensory memory, because of entirely too much internal activity. how large was the dose of amt? its psychoactive at very low doses, and a trip can result from as little as 35mg. ive never personally seen anyone do more than 50mg. I have met many ppl who has done up to 250mg, but id say thats pretty extreme. in any event, how large was the pill? a pill could be anything from 80mg (pretty small) to 200mg or more (pretty big) of material (not all necessarily psychoactive, of course). maybe you took a huge dose of amt and combined with lsd you were tripping so hard that hallucinations covered your visual field instead of sensory input from the eyes? or was it more like someone turned all the lights off?
ive never had any thing like that happen while faced tho. its possible the brain ceases to "record" events adn happenings, even sensory memory, because of entirely too much internal activity. how large was the dose of amt? its psychoactive at very low doses, and a trip can result from as little as 35mg. ive never personally seen anyone do more than 50mg. I have met many ppl who has done up to 250mg, but id say thats pretty extreme. in any event, how large was the pill? a pill could be anything from 80mg (pretty small) to 200mg or more (pretty big) of material (not all necessarily psychoactive, of course). maybe you took a huge dose of amt and combined with lsd you were tripping so hard that hallucinations covered your visual field instead of sensory input from the eyes? or was it more like someone turned all the lights off?
SmokeTrails
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for awhile i just dident see anything at all... and then it was just huge colors that i could not make out ANYTHING at all.. like just red and blue that had its own inner light that was almost blinding... it was wierd.. the colors would shift around but i could not make out anything... then it would go black again... then back to colors... then i could see again... it was cracked out
nebn
Bluelighter
Loss of Past Memory...
Well last weekend i did 8 grams of mush when i was home alone. I knew that my parents werent coming home and that my girlfriend was coming over to watch a movie. I took my mush at 7:30 and it took until 9:30 to hit my peak. As soon as i felt my peak i starting thinking rapidly and saying random things to myself as i was running around my house doing random chores. After i did all my chores i just simply forgot about everything i did in the last 4-5 hours. I forgot i had mush and was freaking out a little bit because of the hallucinations and i eventually just ran out the house and went for a walk to gather my head. So i was just walking down the street and my girlfriend comes running up to me and gives me a hug. I was like what are you doing here (in the middle of no-where) And she said that she called me and told me to meet her there. And i had no memory of this. So when we got back to my house my girlfriend obviously noticed something was wrong with me and when she asked i remembered i took 8 grams of mush. Then i thought about my parents, and i thought they would come home so i started freaking out because i was so effed up on mush. Then i just instantly forgot and my girlfriend had to remind me of them again and tell me that they werent coming home. Has anyone ever gotten this before?
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Well last weekend i did 8 grams of mush when i was home alone. I knew that my parents werent coming home and that my girlfriend was coming over to watch a movie. I took my mush at 7:30 and it took until 9:30 to hit my peak. As soon as i felt my peak i starting thinking rapidly and saying random things to myself as i was running around my house doing random chores. After i did all my chores i just simply forgot about everything i did in the last 4-5 hours. I forgot i had mush and was freaking out a little bit because of the hallucinations and i eventually just ran out the house and went for a walk to gather my head. So i was just walking down the street and my girlfriend comes running up to me and gives me a hug. I was like what are you doing here (in the middle of no-where) And she said that she called me and told me to meet her there. And i had no memory of this. So when we got back to my house my girlfriend obviously noticed something was wrong with me and when she asked i remembered i took 8 grams of mush. Then i thought about my parents, and i thought they would come home so i started freaking out because i was so effed up on mush. Then i just instantly forgot and my girlfriend had to remind me of them again and tell me that they werent coming home. Has anyone ever gotten this before?
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nuke
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Yeah, I get some memory loss on high doses of psychedelics. It kind of goes along the same line as "thought/time loops". When they get real bad I'll start doing things like walk back and forth to the kitchen to get a glass of water, and keep doing it for an hour or more. There are big chunks of a few trips that seem forever gone to me.
lifeisforliving
Bluelighter
I've had similar trips for sure. I don't think it is unusual to "lose oneself" for a time (as in forget your situation, your place, what you were doing and why you were doing it). 8g is a large dose so those sorts of feelings can be expected.
I know it's more than "Feeling confused" It's like you simply can't think or remember logically what is happened/happening.
The fight/flight response we have can cause this. As soon as the thought crosses your mind "Oh shit, what's happening" you get a little surge of adrenalin and freak out more... it's all set and setting. You did prepare properly though, and I would just remember that during the comeup to keep telling yourself the situation: "I'm home with my girldfriend, this will be fun. My parents are not coming back - I don't have to worry. I can go outside if I feel freaked out and my g/f will be with me - so I don't have to worry."
Setting your mind up for a relaxing trip starts be the power of thought in the beginning.
I know it's more than "Feeling confused" It's like you simply can't think or remember logically what is happened/happening.
The fight/flight response we have can cause this. As soon as the thought crosses your mind "Oh shit, what's happening" you get a little surge of adrenalin and freak out more... it's all set and setting. You did prepare properly though, and I would just remember that during the comeup to keep telling yourself the situation: "I'm home with my girldfriend, this will be fun. My parents are not coming back - I don't have to worry. I can go outside if I feel freaked out and my g/f will be with me - so I don't have to worry."
Setting your mind up for a relaxing trip starts be the power of thought in the beginning.
Sprinklervibes
Bluelighter
I remember a festival where we took mushies, a friend of mine took an extremely high dose. He must've been searching things for hours on an end in his tent(probably half of his trip), with his ass pointed out of the tent. Mumbling incoherent things, now and then looking back to us with the weirdest facial expressions. Pretty hilarious!
YouthfulSynapse
Bluelighter
^that reminds me of my friend.....ahhh good times.
Ya, I get lost all the time, like just completley space on whats going on, I remember when I was on mescaline I got lost in a parking lot and my friends ended up being in a car like two spaces infront of where I was running around....
Ya, I get lost all the time, like just completley space on whats going on, I remember when I was on mescaline I got lost in a parking lot and my friends ended up being in a car like two spaces infront of where I was running around....
VertexShader
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I did 3.5g once of very potent mushrooms and was severely traumatized from how bizarre it was. Yes, with 8 grams you can expect to have a difficult time.
BZ at The Memory Hole
For those interested, the Memory Hole has a scan of a report on BZ.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bz/reports.htm
If you haven't been to the site before you should have a look around as it has quite a lot of interesting information.
For those interested, the Memory Hole has a scan of a report on BZ.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/mil/bz/reports.htm
If you haven't been to the site before you should have a look around as it has quite a lot of interesting information.
eternalcrux
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What do people on bl have to say about BZ?
shroom.more
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datura does the same thing to me
razzamatazm
Bluelighter
I had something like this happen to me last night. After eating quite a few mushrooms, I was having a fun trippy time. Then me and some friends smoked some very high quality weed and BAM I was gone! I've never been so crazy in my life. 8( I pretty much went down to a very basic state of trying to stay alive by staying warm and hydrated, but my body made me do it automaticly.
Nothing like ending up in the naked in a bathtub in the dark at a friends house.
But i ended up ok, just need to be a little more careful next time!
Nothing like ending up in the naked in a bathtub in the dark at a friends house.
But i ended up ok, just need to be a little more careful next time!
c00kiemonster
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Vivid memory morbid picture mind
Can anyone help shed and light on this? i'll explain the best i can. Ever since the gf had a bad trip on mda nearly half a year ago now she occasionally gets a clear picture mind of people/places shes been in the past and this usually ends up with those who have died and the like. Also it often seems to stem from us having arguments like last night.
We were lieing in bed and then she was looking into a friends house she hasnt been to for around 10 years pretty clearly all normal then she remembered it was because she had been in a bad car crash and got a vivid picture of her face with scars and the like which starts freaking her out so she tries to think of grass which turns into grave yard shit ... this is just one of many examples she mainly thinks of people that have died. It just about stopped a couple of months ago when she put her mind at rest by seeing a friends grave who was stabbed (she claims she smelt her way to the grave, it smelt of death!!!) That was her main problem, she usually justs get this in the bedroom but theres been thoughts of seeing a knife/stabbing going to kind of -weird- and stemming further when on drugs. I have to keep asking her what she saw so she says
Is this permenant im really intrested in it would be amazing if she could just stem it further to 'normal' memory thoughts there is a lot to it. Anyone had anyything similair?
TBH we had a really bad patch which i think may be the stem of the bad thoughts and she kind of believes thats all she can see because thats what she had on the bad trip which may be why thats all she pretty much gets not that she doesnt get anything normal it just changes
She is new to this world and wants to try doc, all hoping it goes well im a little worried it will be turned upside down. Mind you her last experience with 2cb-fly (intense) she reckons she can tune out easily if it comes on which was a problem previously
Can anyone help shed and light on this? i'll explain the best i can. Ever since the gf had a bad trip on mda nearly half a year ago now she occasionally gets a clear picture mind of people/places shes been in the past and this usually ends up with those who have died and the like. Also it often seems to stem from us having arguments like last night.
We were lieing in bed and then she was looking into a friends house she hasnt been to for around 10 years pretty clearly all normal then she remembered it was because she had been in a bad car crash and got a vivid picture of her face with scars and the like which starts freaking her out so she tries to think of grass which turns into grave yard shit ... this is just one of many examples she mainly thinks of people that have died. It just about stopped a couple of months ago when she put her mind at rest by seeing a friends grave who was stabbed (she claims she smelt her way to the grave, it smelt of death!!!) That was her main problem, she usually justs get this in the bedroom but theres been thoughts of seeing a knife/stabbing going to kind of -weird- and stemming further when on drugs. I have to keep asking her what she saw so she says
Is this permenant im really intrested in it would be amazing if she could just stem it further to 'normal' memory thoughts there is a lot to it. Anyone had anyything similair?
TBH we had a really bad patch which i think may be the stem of the bad thoughts and she kind of believes thats all she can see because thats what she had on the bad trip which may be why thats all she pretty much gets not that she doesnt get anything normal it just changes
She is new to this world and wants to try doc, all hoping it goes well im a little worried it will be turned upside down. Mind you her last experience with 2cb-fly (intense) she reckons she can tune out easily if it comes on which was a problem previously
theghostofbillhicks
Bluelighter
Sounds like she has a fear/obsession revolving around death. It's such an understanable and natural fear.
Perhaps she might do well to work at both her relationship with you and on her feelings about her dead friends before she jumps headlong into another intense psychedelic experience.
A further suggestion to you would be that maybe her reccuring death obsession is actually an interest. Many people wholeheartedly believe they can tune into realms beyond this life. If it doesn't freak her out and she doesn't seem to be imbalanced about it, she could explore these nether regions with psychedelic assistance.
Be Careful!
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Perhaps she might do well to work at both her relationship with you and on her feelings about her dead friends before she jumps headlong into another intense psychedelic experience.
A further suggestion to you would be that maybe her reccuring death obsession is actually an interest. Many people wholeheartedly believe they can tune into realms beyond this life. If it doesn't freak her out and she doesn't seem to be imbalanced about it, she could explore these nether regions with psychedelic assistance.
Be Careful!
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