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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread: Second Dose

well it depends really. some batches are more pure than others, some are known to contain substances used in the cleanup of the synthesis. it might be these that cause these effects. if it really did have a serious corossive or irritant quality, it would probably be a lot more prevalent and far more people would mention it.

also, if osmeone were to use such a powerful irritant itnranasally, it would be a whole lot more painful than people report it to be (as unusual a roa this might be).

i guess what im trying to say is that 1. it might not be the mdai itself causing the problem, but other impurities. 2. you (raphaelrc) could also have an allergy to the chem (or impurities) and this was a belated response to that, and you should tread carefully in future research
 
I googled about the pink/red coloring of skin, found out it happened to another research chemist. decided to mix some with distilled water and some with saliva (Ph difference) i will check on it a few hours later. Just to be sure i will find myself a new supplier though.
 
Mine and a friends stained anything it touched red. I ended up throwing it out. Something is wrong if it is as potent as food coloring at turning things red. I would really like to hear from a mod about what this possibly could be. When I got it about a year ago this didn't happen. I'm glad I only allergy tested it at 1-2 mg before taking a whole dose of this stuff.
 
Hi Psaxxon ...in re: to your use of MDAI 125mg 3-4x per month: have you noticed any long term negative effects? I have used it several times over last 4 months (waiting at least 2 weeks -4 weeks before each dose) . I once doubled the dose and found it to be too overwhelming in the evening. I even experienced closed eye visuals (at least I don't think I was sleeping / dreaming). Anyone else experienced that?
 
Hi Psaxxon ...in re: to your use of MDAI 125mg 3-4x per month: have you noticed any long term negative effects? I have used it several times over last 4 months (waiting at least 2 weeks -4 weeks before each dose) . I once doubled the dose and found it to be too overwhelming in the evening. I even experienced closed eye visuals (at least I don't think I was sleeping / dreaming). Anyone else experienced that?

A friend of mine experienced severe hallucinations where he thought everyones faces were melting at approximately 350mg and a lot of weed.
 
Everything the powder touching turning red like food coloring I think is something that needs to be discussed more. Something just didn't seem right there to me, nor should it.
 
I am planning on taking 4-FA and MDAI next weekend. 200 mg of 4-FA (this dosage was well tested by me in the retrospective) and 200 mg of MDAI just before I reach the plateau from the first 4-FA bomb. . I did extensive research on 4-FMA in the past and I find it to be an inferior chem comparing to 4-FA due to extra-long duration (hours after the real euphoria is over) and a heavier load on the body. 4-FA caused better quality euphoria and lasted much shorter totally not giving as many undesirable side-effects.. So I think that MDAI will go very nicely with it.

I read on the other forums that this combo is highly enjoyable. . I hope that MDAI is better than 4-MEC as that was just acting for a very short period of time (just over an hour since peaking) but did provide satisfying results if no more than two separate doses were taken throughout the night, everything above that caused little positive effects and instead brought upon me anxiety and short-lived dysphoria (used to dose in the 200-300 mg range each time taking it). However, I never had a comedown from 4-MEC to speak of, even after the first trial when I dosed it 3 times: 250 mg every hour and half. Still could fall asleep the same night and feel fine next day with some lingering warmth aftereffects.. I know that MDAI has a bad comedown but I will try to counteract it by dosing 5-HTP post my trip. In the past it was a GREAT help to ease after-effects of chemically induced serotonergic toxicity.

I am very confident in 4-FA as in the past I had a 2g experience over 3 days that didn't end too badly and I still managed to get some sleep in between (but in order to do that I drunk a few shots of whiskey).

Wish me luck! I will be back with a short report. If you have any advices before I indulge I would be more than happy to hear them out.

P.S. I think that people are eager to combine MDAI with other chems because we got spoiled either from good MDMA or quality Mephedrone/Methylone (which are all illegal now, including USA). Taking MDAI on its own could very well be just fine but if I am to face a shitty comedown I would rather have a blast a night before that would seem to be worth it.. However, serotonergic comedowns for me are always much better than dopaminergic ones (depressed and bluesy vs eternal tiredness and severe depression). Nodding off in a chair watching movies or walking in the park from MDAI alone could not be as good as some wild, active, stimulation-infused experience (but def. not as destructive).. At least in my humble opinion.
P.P.S. HOWEVER, regardless of what I am going to do to my own body I wouldn't recommend anyone inexperienced in both substances to try to mix them. 200 mg might be OK for me but may be way too much for someone else. Always start out small, make allergy tests and be reasonable.
 
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I have found that mixing about 250-350mg of MDAI in a glass of orange juice provides the best affects. The MDAI is acidic and thus is camouflaged well by the orange juice. I have only used to white (supposedly stronger batch) kind rather than the typical brown crystals.
 
how is the depression on this after?

I want a mild serotonin booster to compliment mdppp. 6apb I found consistently to give me ghastly depression such that I won't touch it again.

I was thinking 5-apb but this seem s like it'll fit the bill effects wise.

Important thing is how is the comedown. I don't mean the initial comedown but the real crash that comes in on the dreaded 'suicide tuesday'.

So clue me in on that if yall could, cheers.

Anyway it doesnt seem to be around atm so one for the backburner, just doing a lil research for now.
 
It has become illegal in some (many) places. unfortuantely i doubt it will be appearing on the black market as it isnt that valued by the community at large. a shame really, as it is quite the gentle chem.
it might be a good thing though. if it doesnt get banned everyhwere and it appears cyclially every year or so, it is way better than a constant demand for it....
 
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Made a couple minor edits to your post kingme and snipped yours eatcod.
 
I tried some MDAI recently, it was brown and kind of wet and clumpy. I took 200mg... I didn't feel very great, mainly felt some slight stimuation. I drank some alcohol, but later when I tried to go to sleep I couldn't for the life of me due to the MDAI
Overall a pretty shitty experience
 
I did it a while ago I almost forgot this experience a very strange thing happend since it was a while ago seems that I cant remember acurate dose Im preety sure I had 500mg sample did 250 I think and it was something...little euphoria relaxation...when I came home and I was coming down I layed to bed and all of a suden I was projecting round beams of energy into space and energy from space was sent to me in same colorful round beams of energy all this in my bed lol Ive seen alot of halicunations in my life and I think this wasnt one of them did anybody experinced anything similar I would really like to call a conference on this
 
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ive been mildly interested in mdai for a couple years but never got around to trying it. Now with 5 and 6apb around it seems somewhat pointless apart from possibly being less toxic.
 
I've some brown MDAI from china and some mdpv, interested in a combo for a trance night, what dosage would you recommend of each one? I've been using mdpv for a month nasally(5mg - 10mg), never oral.
 
id just stop the mdpv. seriosuly, that stuff is quite bad for your health and not to mention your morale.... in fact, i would go so far as to say that if you plan on using it, jsut stick to that one, because you know the effects of it, a trance night is no night to try out combos with drugs youve not use on their onw first...

so
if i were you id stop the mdpv.
wait a while (weeks). try the mdai, see how i like it, then ask this question again....
 
I'm trying to figure out some "empirical" data on this substance, which I can't find anywhere! nothing but conflicting reports, which are really bad for harm reduction.
Does anyone know, for example, something as simple as "WHAT COLOR SHOULD MDAI TURN WITH MARQUIS?"

I just want to know what MDAI ISN'T at very least. I can't find accurate reagent information, and I feel this is totally harm reduction. I am also very confused by the whole different color thing, but I don't expect any real answers. I just know that I've seen some that turned a bright red with marquis, and some that was white in color, had no reaction with marquis, but turned brown with mecke. What does this mean? Can someone tell me about reagents and how they apply to MDAI? I've had a thread about this closed recently and all I'm trying to do is be safe and know what EZTEST is supposed to turn. Its funny I always hear about EZTESTS on this site.
 
I've seen most people saying MDAI turns a dark brown/"red-ish" brown on Marquis tests. I don't think I've seen any of them saying they had their MDAI lab tested though so I can't confirm without a doubt if that's correct - but the consensus does seem to be "dark brown/red" for MDAI :) Double check though before assuming that this is correct.

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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...esults-for-stim-empathogen-2C-X-RC-s-amp-more

Says dark brown, so I'd assume that's correct :)
 
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