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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread: Second Dose

You're right, Solipsis. But the two occasions before that that I actually experienced something from it, it took well over an hour to even start having an effect, so I took it half an hour before arriving - and for some reason it kicked in much, much earlier. Not a mistake I'll make again.

Mxx
 
There is a lot of sketchy stuff that is sold as MDAI. If you find a reliable vendor, I'd suggest to keep using it even if you supposedly find it cheaper somewhere else. Real MDAI shouldn't cause some of these really messed up reactions some people are reporting. While everyone can react differently to drugs, my friends and I have been using legit stuff for a while, and the only negative effects some people have (in my observation) is mild depression the day after use. I've never experienced any negative physical effects, and to my knowledge, no one that has used legit MDAI that I personally know has either. But I guess anything is possible.
 
After doing some reading online I ordered a gram of mdai from what seems to be a legit vendor. We can see why they call it sparkle; it was a white crystalline substance with small chunks to break up and shined in the light like miniscule glitter almost, like a pearlescent sheen. Both my fiancé and I were surprised at the intensity of it. We both took 225mg, with 150mg taken orally and and additional 75 insuffulated as well as burned some kratom to give us a familiar feeling with the new. The combination was excellent, and now that we know what to expect we will likely try it alone and let it peak before we burn our Kratom next time. It took over 2 hours before the effects of the MDAI peaked. I was blown away by the intensity of it. I wasn't expecting it to be as psychedelic as it was. Both if us thought it was a lot like shrooms but without the visuals. It didn't have crazy euphoria, but was more like extreme contentment with elements of excitement. The peak lasted about 6 hours with an additional 12 hours of comedown. The comedown was nothing compared to ecstasy or meth, and didn't have the same odd comedown misery that strong devil's acid gives you. The comedown was slow and pleasant. Definitely something that I'll try again. And we HIGHLY recommend going to see a 3D movie on it.
 
rdbomb said:
The peak lasted about 6 hours with an additional 12 hours of comedown. The comedown was nothing compared to ecstasy or meth, and didn't have the same odd comedown misery that strong devil's acid gives you.
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peak of 6 hours? additional 12 h of comedown?? these are very odd numbers for this chemical, meaning it usually lasts much less. it might have been the kratom perhaps, but it rarely leaves people with this kind of reaction, even in higher doses... glad it worked for you, but are you sure it was only mdai in there?

(as a side note, whats devil's acid?)
 
kingme said:
peak of 6 hours? additional 12 h of comedown?? these are very odd numbers for this chemical, meaning it usually lasts much less. it might have been the kratom perhaps, but it rarely leaves people with this kind of reaction, even in higher doses... glad it worked for you, but are you sure it was only mdai in there?

(as a side note, whats devil's acid?)
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IDK, MDAI usually lasts like 5-6 hours for me. I sometimes take it with kratom, but not always. I wouldn't say I peak for that long, but even six hours in, I still will feel pretty damn good. As far as a 12 hour comedown, I will get after effects for about that long, but they aren't particularly pleasant. I'd consider it more of a mild hangover.
 
Our day-after feeling is one of extreme laziness and contentment (we took a 5 hour nap when it's usually only 2ish) and have just been feeling really relaxed. It most certainly feels like we "partied" last night. 24 hours after the peak we still have some lingering effects, primarily the lethargy. We're gonna either get a test kit and see what's in it or send it off and have it tested. We'll post our results once we get them.
 
I've got 2 grams of this coming, will be interesting to trial it. I've had the Sparkle research pellets before, and they were very nice, but would be good to properly trial the powder. Hopefully all the dodgy batches are not around anymore, and I get the genuine product. I feel theres quite some potential in this chemical, especially in a combination with MPA/possibly aMT.
 
i'v used mdai twice now first at 250mg and secondly 330mg (2x ~165mg with approx a 2 hour gap)

while this obviously inst as good as mdma i find it feels alot more natural and combined with caffiene it makes for a really good club drug.

the thing i love about mdai is that it gives me the best afterglows at a time where i dont really get them anymore from mdma.
 
MDAI first and second experience

Fist of all, I begin apologising for my bad english.. I hope my small contribution can be useful to this threat.

/* SUMMARY*/

I've purchased 1gr of white MDAI, which was analysed using Thin Layer Chromatography and GC/MS, showing the material purchased was realy MDAI, without any product synthesis but with some little diluent.

Here is the summary of the experience; I've written details below for those interested.

I've taken 50 mg as a 'treshold test', and 100+50mg one month later. I get a ill-defined experience, with very little empathy buy with some interesting introspection. Not enjoyable, but maybe interesting. I've got the feeling a better setting (for instance, a social one) would make a big diference. I think that some alcohol (2-3 beers) combines well. Clearly, there is a lack of being 'pushed' in a stimulant/warm/euphoric manner and definitely, in my opinion that substance can't be classified as close to MDMA, despite some aspects may be similar. Further research is required.

Has anyone mixed it with 2c-b or MDMA?

/* REPORT */

The subject of this report is spanish 20 years old male, 65 kg. Good health, without mental disorders. History of consumption to highling in relation to this report are: alcohol (< 140 gr per week), opiates 3-4 times/month during last 4 years (codeine, tramadol or opium), speed 1-3 times per month, MDMA 8 times/year, 2C-B 7 times/year.

FIRST TRY (treshold trial)

50 mg : mild wellness and serenity, beggining one hour after shallowing the material. Placebo? No disgusting effects noted. Seems a promising substance.

SECOND TRY

Have taken aprox 30 mg anfetamine and 240 mg of MDMA 9 days ago (this could be relevant). One month has passed between this trial and the las one. I'd like to highlight I had'nt unrealistic expectations placed on this substance, nor do I expect something very close to MDMA.

100 mg (18:15) Baseline FC: 93 bpm. Feeling good.

+00:45 mild restlessness

+01:30 sedation, mild buzz. Remains some concern, manifested as light physical disconfort, similar to that I've experienced my fisrt two or three times on 2C-B low dosages.

+02:00 Redosing 50 mg. FC: 90 bpm.

+02:15 Sedation increasing.

+03:00 Taking a glass of wine. Maybe set&setting aren't adequate: I'm alone at home. Feeling of insatisfaction. Yawning every 5 minutes, feeling tired/bored.

+03:15 I take a book (Invisible, Paul Auster) and go for a walk, feeling the need to go towards my ex-girlfriend house. Lights of the streets are MDMA-like. I smoke a cigarrette, have a sit on a bench, and finish reading my book drinking a can of beer. Not so many difficulties on focusing. I get some introspective feelings, mainly looking at my past romantic relationships.

+05:00 Back at home. I decide to smoke some opium (400 mg), trying to achieve the experience in a more pleasant mood.
 
I've done quite a bit of MDAI and feel it has run its course with me, and probably won't buy it again. Sure, it has a nice feeling for a time when you come up off it, but it is quite one dimensional. I presume partly due to it only releasing serotonin and no dopamine. To me it isn't as good as methylone ever was and is also inferior to MDMA. It's only real plus point is its cheapness and availability which was useful for a time after the cathinone ban. For occasional mash ups I also find 6-APB better in almost every way.
 
It adds some much needed serotonin to compounds like 4-fa and M1 in combo. As a solo drug it's fairly one-dimensional but I figured people would have given up using it as a solo drug already.
 
I bought 5g (the white stuff, >90% purity claimed), felt like the real thing based on previous experiences, and polished off the whole lot in about a week. Now I feel like utter shit. Guess I'm getting mine eh.
 
5g a week? That's insane. MDAI usually gives me one good experience at 200mg or so (with MPA), and then subsequent doses just cause discomfort unless I wait over two weeks to dose. 5g in a week is insane. I'd imagine you're going to experience some harsh brain zaps.
 
Last few times I've done this chemical, I've had very little effect. Its the white, crystalline batch. Its a shame, because I have had fairly decent effects on it in the past.
 
oSpherical said:
5g a week? That's insane. MDAI usually gives me one good experience at 200mg or so (with MPA), and then subsequent doses just cause discomfort unless I wait over two weeks to dose. 5g in a week is insane. I'd imagine you're going to experience some harsh brain zaps.
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Christ yes, I barely slept last night and I don't think I would've slept at all if the selfless girlfriend hadn't come round to clean up my mess. I had some serious depression/anxiety going on too (still some remainder today). Yesterday I didn't touch it, even when I realised what I should've done is tapered off with the left over ~400mg. I don't know why I carried on cold turkey but I didn't feel inclined to bomb anymore of something that had already fucked me up (strong aversive effect -- I very nearly chucked it away, fortunately I didn't). Today I did 80mg when I woke up to stop the zaps and then came down to another 50 as the day went on (definitely not in any hope of recreational effects, I should add!) so that I can finally put it to bed by tomorrow for my weekend in Brussels.

I'm posting mainly as a cautionary tale to all who might misinterpret the "safe" label of MDAI as "all you can eat" and also to vent at my own stupidity a little bit. If you do somehow end up on a bit of a bender with this stuff, don't just stop, plan ahead to cut down with the last x mg. I wouldn't wish my yesterday on anyone. 8(

A good drug when done right. I will be treating it (and everything else, I daresay) with a lot more respect from now on. Although as soon as I've passed the withdrawal, I don't think I'll be able to justify - or want to justify - using it again.
 
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I wrote a trip report the day after I first tried mdai about 2 months ago but it was accidentally deleted and I couldn't be asked to rewrite it. Anyway here's a condenced version, the stuff I got was a white powder, ever so slightly sparkly. The three of us (myself D and J for the purposes of the story) had 150mg each, after about half an hour I got hit with a sudden rush of warmth and slight euphoria that disappeared quickly however I'm sure it wasn't placebo because it quite intense similar to when mdma hits you but weaker. There was a subtle change in mood that I wouldn't have noticed if I hadn't known I was on something (subtle in the same way 10mg of ritalin makes you noticeably more talkative to other people, but not to yourself). At 1 hour we each took 100mg more and then at 2 we took another 130 more. I felt no difference after each dose but after the second one we did smoke some high quality weed, so that may have overpowered it. All I can say is for that entire night I was not sober, but I can not describe how.

There was a lot of time dilation, 5 minutes of chasing a moth round the boat we were on felt like an hour or so (Surely that must be a sign we weren't sober?). One friend of mine J who'd also had two beers, but smoked less weed than us started properly hallucinating after the second dose. At one point he was standing behind my other friend D and he reached out and grabbed at the air behind his head. I asked him what he was doing and he said he thought that D was wearing an old fashion night cap with a bobble and he tried to grab it. Throughout the night he kept saying he kept seeing us wearing different things, from an american football helmets to penguin costumes. He also was terrified of the dark and claimed that anything that was in the dark disappeared from his reality and he couldn't remember or imagine what was there (We were on an old house boat without any lights, we only had a torch). At about 2am (we had started dosing at about.... 8? Fuck it was a while ago) we were sat down on a the couch and the conversation fell into a lull, we suddenly realised it was light outside and it was 5am, but we all thought we were silent for a minute or two.

We decided to try and get some sleep. It was restless and none of us thought we had fallen asleep but each of us had seen the others sleeping and D had snored for a bit. It seems we all had a restless sleep and kept waking up often. The day after dissapeared, I can't remember much of it other than sitting on a wall outside the local cornershop in silence with D and J. I got home at about 6pm and fell asleep striaght away I slept till 8am the next day and still felt tired when I woke up. J says he slept for about 16 hours that night. Overall the day after felt similar to the day after I had my biggest dose of mdma (150mg eyeballed, I have scales now) only it lacked the zoned happy feeling, but on the bright side I didn't get an bouts of midweek depression as I do with mdma.

Will try a dose of about 250mg within the next two weeks without weed and without redosing and see how I feel. Do people think what I got was actually mdai? Has anyone tried it with alcohol, I can imagine it being quite a nice mood enhancer and it seemed to have mild stimulant effect, since none of us were particularly sleepy at any point.

I also want to try the mdai + ritalin combo, any advice on ratios?
 
Just thought I'd throw my 2 pence in on this compound. I got a gram of white powder, which is very sparkly u der light. Anyway decided I would start with a small dab under the tongue for allergy purposes. Went to the shop an bought some beeers all was fine. Got back an did 2 or 3 more dabs under the tongue while chatting to my mate via text. Drank some beeers and bombed probably 50mg... after 20 mins started to feel warm and noticed music appreciation was elevated. Smoked a rollie and felt a sort of not so nice rush and a lot of mind chatter thinking oh no this is going to be horrible (I have awful anxiety issues thanks to weed which I no longer smoke as a result? That passed and continued to do small dabs every 10 to 20 minutes, feeling slightly better with each one but still struggling to feel a direct "fuckedness" after 4 more beers and probably 5 more dabs I find myself at a lovely chilled state. No pupil dilation as yet as I suspect my total dosage to still be less than 100mg (thanks anxiety) but definitely starting to feel like I'm in a nice little bubble. No rushing but just a nice glow. Definitely not what I was expectibg but then again from what I read I expected the unexpected if that makes sense. Anyway aftercall these tiny increms I find myself at a rather lovely place. Probably on a very minor dose but drugs effect me so much more thanks to my chronic over thinking. . Anyway rather pleased with this compound considering the pathetic amount I have realistically ingested. Hope that helps anyone that lives in a world ruined by cannabis such as myself lol.

Oh and also just thought id mention timw perception is definitely off. Feels like ive been sat here forever when infavt its only been a few hours. And sorry for typos I'm using my phones browser and the keyboards auto correct is less than effecient :S
 
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Did anyone ever faint on a relatively small dose of this? Especially without additional uppers.
 
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