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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread: Second Dose

Do you guys feel that mdai is a worthy replacement for mdma when it comes to combinations? Combinations such as 2cb, mushrooms, acid, etc? Do you think the lack on energy with mdai may be preferable to mdma when combined with other already stimulating psychedelics?
 
I saw on an old BL thread, in regards to the color and purity:

TheAzo said:
just recently tested mine in marquis a few times, first time fizzed and turned white with a green tint and second time fizzed and turned completely white

Was that the same batch turning different colors? o_o

In any case
MARQUIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO TELL MDAI FROM COMMON CHEMICALS USED IN FAKE MDAI.

Pure, super clean, MDAI will not turn Marquis a color - however, MDAI that pure is very rare, and vendors frequently ship UK-illegal cathinones* as MDAI - and many cathinones also do not change the color of marquis.

MDAI will turn mecke brown, while the cathinones which don't produce color with marquis will not.

Also, smell the MDAI. Clean MDAI, if it has any smell at all, will smell vaguely like root beer. If it smells like a cathinone (I assume you know what meph and it's ilk smell like - all the cathinones smell pretty much the same), you know for sure it's either fake, or has been cut with a cathinone (both of which are very common, unfortunately)


*Cathinones that won't color marquis are basically any cathinones other than methylone, butylone, and MDPV. Mephedrone, 3-FMC, buph, ethcat, 4-EMC, 4-MEC, 3,4-DMMC and the like all produce almost no color change in response to Marquis/Mecke, and a faint yellow to Mandellin.
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^Any truth to this? Because some MDAI I've seen had turned white/clear with marquis (no real reaction) but turns brown with mecke, and it is indeed white (and flour-like in consistency, not really "crystals" or anything)
 
Toast to the Spirits said:
Do you guys feel that mdai is a worthy replacement for mdma when it comes to combinations? Combinations such as 2cb, mushrooms, acid, etc? Do you think the lack on energy with mdai may be preferable to mdma when combined with other already stimulating psychedelics?
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A stmulant is really the only thing you should combine if anything with MDAI but thats my personal opinion.

I wish I didnt get brain zaps from MDAI. That is the only reason I never had to much of a good time taking it although it seemsto only happen when I would get sleepy. It has slways been quite a time with a stim added with but afterwards always got brainzaps during my test runs so I decided its obviously something I cannot partake.
 
Does anyone here think that combining MDAI and some ice in a rail might replicate MDMA, sort of?

keyword there being "sort of"...
 
will I get tracers from that combo? and sorry if this doesn't go here, but what dosages of each do you think would be good? I was thinking maybe 150-200mg meth with around 100mg MDAI...
 
Doug2113 said:
will I get tracers from that combo? and sorry if this doesn't go here, but what dosages of each do you think would be good? I was thinking maybe 150-200mg meth with around 100mg MDAI...
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Unless you have really impure meth or a solid bit of tolerance, that meth dose seems pretty high.
 
If you're already on Oxycodone and Morphine I wouldn't add alcohol to the mix, mixing stimulants and depressants puts a lot of strain on your heart, so the mix could already be quite risky depending on your dosage and opiate tolerance, I definitely wouldn't add alcohol. No need and it'll only add risk rather than much of anything enjoyable.

Also, merged.
 
I'm just trying to find out reagent information. I have heard two things:

1) it is SUPPOSED to show NO REACTION with Marquis, but impurities turn it red sometimes, and no reaction/white when pure (and brown with mecke)

2) it is SUPPOSED to turn to immediate red with Marquis, and also brown with Mecke

I don't even know which one to believe, and this makes a huge difference in terms of harm reduction. Someone experienced with this, please give some input!

Does anyone here think that combining MDAI and some ice in a rail might replicate MDMA, sort of?

keyword there being "sort of"...
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Nope. Not even sort of. It has its own feel, and is not a party drug. Even combined with a stimulant, you're much better off just getting some molly if that's what you're going for. Methylone is more like a "sort of" MDMA if you ask me (though not as good IMO)

What really interests me is 5-Me-MDA.... now that sounds promising :) also MDOH and stuff (though these are NOT that much like mdma, more like "twisted" analogs of MDA)
 
Okay, I was sold what I was informed was MDMA recently by a source I've never used before (I just moved to a new town, and apparently MDMA is really hard to get here. Sadface) and I believe I may have been sold MDAI.

It is a pale golden brownish colour, oddly sticky, and does not have the usual, highly distinctive MDMA smell. In fact, it has no real discernible odour at all. I was dubious at first, but willing to forgo the peculiarities if it checked out when I tested a small bump, insufflated sober.

Not so. The effects were admittedly pleasant, but more akin to antidepressants in character, if not intensity. Warm relaxation not unlike weak-affinity opioids, things seemed brighter and more pleasant. Little noticeable euphoria. No rush or desire to dance, and most importantly, absolutely no increased sense of emotional openness and understanding.

Now having no previous experience with MDAI, and no marquis on hand to test, I want to know what you guys think. -snip-
And a secondary question: how inadvisable, on a scale of one to ten, would it be to take this potentially unknown chemical?

You dont actually need to answer that last one, by the way :P
 
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We don't allow you to ask for drug identification or "What did I take?" on Bluelight - no-one can tell you that, there are many hundreds of drugs that would fit any effects profile and since this is a harm reduction forum, speculation is completely against what we stand for and will only lead to people getting hurt.

Also, I removed the price discussion, that isn't allowed either.

This test results thread might be handy for you, that's really the only way to have any idea of what you're taking when unsure - buy a test kit, and use it. They're damn cheap for the fact they'll save you lots of time, effort, money, and possibly even your life. :D

To answer your last question, if you have any doubt about what the drug you're consuming is, you should send it off to a lab for testing, or test it yourself with marquis or a similar test kit. If you can't do either, just bin it. Do not consume it or give it to anyone else.
 
Forms OF MDAI

I have found that there are three main forms of MDAI.
The most common being a very fine white powder usually called gold MDAI. Low quality stuff. Usually requiring 500mg for a great trip.
The Brown Powder. This stuff is low quality and not worth the money.
The best MDAI is the white crystals. There are very few vendors with this kind. Very High quality stuff. Usually requiring 100-250mg for an amazing trip that makes you so happy that you have a permagrin. Makes you rub the carpet and furry wall if you catch my drift.
 
What do you guys recommend as a good starting dose with mdai as I have a G coming but havent tried it before?

I want a very modest dose as I plan be adding 2-fa too to give it some stimulant kick.

Just reading this: http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=691

I have heard about how it;s bad to mix dopa and serotonin drugs...should it be casue for concern?

I know lots of ppl seem to do it but still doesnt mean they should :D/it isnt risky.
 
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Trip reports should be in the Trip Reports forum rather than in the Big & Dandy threads, just fyi. If you want people to see them here, post it in TR, and then post a link here. No harm done though, I moved it over for you. It's just done that way so people looking for trip reports don't have to wade through these threads and can find them easily by searching the correct forum :)

Here's the link for anyone wanting to read: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/608475-(MDAI-150mg)-First-Time-Just-had-my-first-dose-today
 
I bought 2g of what i think is MDAI; It looks like shredded white-like optic fibers (needle like crystals) and smells like vinegar.

Since then i took it 2 times; first time i tried 120mg oral and later 50mg sublingual and sniffed a tiny bit of speed in order to try to achieve a MDMA-like high. MDAI is the most pure therapeutic relaxed side of MDMA, but the strange thing is, normally speed gives me a chemical-like feeling, BUT MDAI nullified the chemical touch to it.

Anyhow 3 days later i tried it a second time with 250 mg and i was sold; The first time i tried MDMA, i got CEV's which i could control and when the longer i looked at it, the stronger it becomes and MDAI gave me exact the same CEV's without the intense rush of MDMA.


Anyhow i was thinking about it; If somebody took MDMA with MDAI, would the effects stack or multiply eachother?
 
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