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lsz trip report
Ok guys this is my first post and first trip report so be gentle..
Gender: Male
Weight: 13 stone
Pervious experience: cannabis, lsd, mdpv, synthetic cannabinoids, MDMA, cocaine, 25i-nboh
Setting
Spontaneous camping trip up mountain range close by in Northern Ireland. Me and boyfriend only. Day started with hour drive down to park car near a trail.
Headed up trail and hiked uphill for 3-4 hours stopping for lunch. Arrived about 3:30pm at pre-determined wild camp site to find we have it to ourselves.
Previously boyfriend had agreed to take it with me but decided not to last minute and instead would be my sitter. Were exhausted from the walk but decided to take on empty stomach for best results.
T+00:00 (3:45pm)Took 1 and 1/2 tabs of 150ug strength for a total dose of ~225ug. I'd taken ~500ug og 25i-nboh 4 days previously and was worried about cross tolerance.
T+00:20 swallow tabs bit feeling no first alerts yet.
T+00:30 feel nauseous and like my blood sugar is really low and I'm going to faint. Start to think hiking for 3-4 hours then dropping this on an empty stomach may have been a bad idea.
I spend the next 1 hour 30 minutes huddled in a ball complaining I'm feeling very nauseous, light headed and motion sick.
T+2:00 nausea begins to pass and I come out of my cocoon to face the world and it's like I'm opening my eyes for the first time. Colours are vibrant and everything is breathing.
From this point on I have absolutley no body load or nausea or discomfort of any kind. Neck is ever so slightly stiff but not in any way uncomfortable.
T+2:30 brought my Bose sound link mini speaker with me and put on the gorillaz, plastic beach album. We are camped looking up at a valley and the grass all along it was swaying to the music and pulsing in time. It was beautiful and I kept remarking how nice nature was.
T+3:30 still outside and enjoying listening to music and talking to my boyfriend who is doing a good job of picking music and keeping the conversation interesting.
T+4:00 decide to smoke a few hits of cannabis from a small glass pipe I'd brought as it had previously mixed well with acid for me.
T+4:30 cannabis has made the experience slightly cloudier and get lost mid sentence in thoughts that I couldn't recover. Decided it was best not to fret over the lost thoughts and get down so just kept it moving on when this happened.
Visuals were intensified with the weed. I could now see spiraling patterns within everything I looked at. The mountains were still swaying and breathing but now also rotating like a kaleidoscope.
T+5:00 was getting late and we'd been camping all day and boyfriend wanted to go to bed. We retired indoors but it was still light outside as sunset was after 10pm and it was before 9pm. I decided to sit outside alone and smoke more weed over the course of the next half hour and be alone with my thoughts.
T+5:30 visuals shifted to an intricate pattern of interlocking L shaped blocks and these blocks were rotating to cause the spiral patterns described earlier. I felt I'd understood the visuals more and was being let in on the secret behind how the whole drug was working to produce its hallucinations.
There also appeared to be a transparent grid across every surface that had black nodes or markers positioned along it.
T+6:00 was getting darker now and my boyfriend was snoring loudly inside the tent which freaked me out so I made my way inside.
T+6:10 couldn't sleep and was still tripping fairly hard so browsed my phone to see what I had. Had a copy of american beauty in HD which I watched, visual quality of movie appeared terrible on my nexus 5's screen although usually looks terrific. Enjoyable watch nonetheless.
T+8:00 have snack of sesame rolls with tuna and seed snack bars ensuring I drink plenty of water.
Smoke more weed before putting head down and sleep with no problems.
Conclusion
Overall experience was comparable to acid I've had although I've only ever taken low doses of acid so don't know how it compares to higher doses but had a good time and after the initial discomfort which I put down to the stupid decision to dose after exhausting hiking for 3-4 hours.
Also I may have had cross tolerance with 25i-nboh which if is anything like the nbome tolerance I've read about then could definitely have played a factor.
Further study
Have 3 1/2 tabs left so plan to take 1 and a half next time with at least a weeks gap and prefferably two and then the same gap before trying 2 tabs (300ug).
Ok guys this is my first post and first trip report so be gentle..
Gender: Male
Weight: 13 stone
Pervious experience: cannabis, lsd, mdpv, synthetic cannabinoids, MDMA, cocaine, 25i-nboh
Setting
Spontaneous camping trip up mountain range close by in Northern Ireland. Me and boyfriend only. Day started with hour drive down to park car near a trail.
Headed up trail and hiked uphill for 3-4 hours stopping for lunch. Arrived about 3:30pm at pre-determined wild camp site to find we have it to ourselves.
Previously boyfriend had agreed to take it with me but decided not to last minute and instead would be my sitter. Were exhausted from the walk but decided to take on empty stomach for best results.
T+00:00 (3:45pm)Took 1 and 1/2 tabs of 150ug strength for a total dose of ~225ug. I'd taken ~500ug og 25i-nboh 4 days previously and was worried about cross tolerance.
T+00:20 swallow tabs bit feeling no first alerts yet.
T+00:30 feel nauseous and like my blood sugar is really low and I'm going to faint. Start to think hiking for 3-4 hours then dropping this on an empty stomach may have been a bad idea.
I spend the next 1 hour 30 minutes huddled in a ball complaining I'm feeling very nauseous, light headed and motion sick.
T+2:00 nausea begins to pass and I come out of my cocoon to face the world and it's like I'm opening my eyes for the first time. Colours are vibrant and everything is breathing.
From this point on I have absolutley no body load or nausea or discomfort of any kind. Neck is ever so slightly stiff but not in any way uncomfortable.
T+2:30 brought my Bose sound link mini speaker with me and put on the gorillaz, plastic beach album. We are camped looking up at a valley and the grass all along it was swaying to the music and pulsing in time. It was beautiful and I kept remarking how nice nature was.
T+3:30 still outside and enjoying listening to music and talking to my boyfriend who is doing a good job of picking music and keeping the conversation interesting.
T+4:00 decide to smoke a few hits of cannabis from a small glass pipe I'd brought as it had previously mixed well with acid for me.
T+4:30 cannabis has made the experience slightly cloudier and get lost mid sentence in thoughts that I couldn't recover. Decided it was best not to fret over the lost thoughts and get down so just kept it moving on when this happened.
Visuals were intensified with the weed. I could now see spiraling patterns within everything I looked at. The mountains were still swaying and breathing but now also rotating like a kaleidoscope.
T+5:00 was getting late and we'd been camping all day and boyfriend wanted to go to bed. We retired indoors but it was still light outside as sunset was after 10pm and it was before 9pm. I decided to sit outside alone and smoke more weed over the course of the next half hour and be alone with my thoughts.
T+5:30 visuals shifted to an intricate pattern of interlocking L shaped blocks and these blocks were rotating to cause the spiral patterns described earlier. I felt I'd understood the visuals more and was being let in on the secret behind how the whole drug was working to produce its hallucinations.
There also appeared to be a transparent grid across every surface that had black nodes or markers positioned along it.
T+6:00 was getting darker now and my boyfriend was snoring loudly inside the tent which freaked me out so I made my way inside.
T+6:10 couldn't sleep and was still tripping fairly hard so browsed my phone to see what I had. Had a copy of american beauty in HD which I watched, visual quality of movie appeared terrible on my nexus 5's screen although usually looks terrific. Enjoyable watch nonetheless.
T+8:00 have snack of sesame rolls with tuna and seed snack bars ensuring I drink plenty of water.
Smoke more weed before putting head down and sleep with no problems.
Conclusion
Overall experience was comparable to acid I've had although I've only ever taken low doses of acid so don't know how it compares to higher doses but had a good time and after the initial discomfort which I put down to the stupid decision to dose after exhausting hiking for 3-4 hours.
Also I may have had cross tolerance with 25i-nboh which if is anything like the nbome tolerance I've read about then could definitely have played a factor.
Further study
Have 3 1/2 tabs left so plan to take 1 and a half next time with at least a weeks gap and prefferably two and then the same gap before trying 2 tabs (300ug).
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theacidtest
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I have a couple new things to contribute here.
After taking (on different occasions) 150ug LSZ, 1 drop (unknown quantity) of LSD with 150ug LSZ, and 225ug LSZ, my good friend G decided to take 3 1/2 hits (525ug) of LSZ. He normally tolerates psychedelics quite well (particularly LSD) and was curious as to what a high dose of LSZ would be like. He reported that the come up was much quicker than with all previous trials with LSZ. Nausea increased steadily until he was forced to throw up right before the peak of the experience. He reported that this vomiting was incredibly intense, sort of a "purge" type feeling/activity. The trip itself was intense but not as much as expected. He said it was about on par with 2-3 hits of decent LSD but with less of a visual component. 7 hours after ingestion he was surprisingly clear headed but still suffering from mild stomach discomfort.
Yesterday my friend M ingested two hits (300ug) of LSZ by himself. His trip was spent listening to Pink Floyd and Jimi Hendrix. He described it as his most intense psychedelic experience yet, his previous experiences being: 150ug LSZ, 225ug LSZ, and one drop (unknown quantity) of LSD. He said that it was less visual than LSD, but the physical and mental intensity was incredibly strong. His most profound experience during this trip was extreme time dilation, to the point of observing reality in "slow motion". He reported that there were multiple instances where he was left questioning his sanity, this reality, divinity, and the nature of the universe. While less "recreational" than his previous experiences, he said it was by far his most rewarding experience yet. He said that, for him at least, 300ug LSZ might be the "sweet spot" dose.
After taking (on different occasions) 150ug LSZ, 1 drop (unknown quantity) of LSD with 150ug LSZ, and 225ug LSZ, my good friend G decided to take 3 1/2 hits (525ug) of LSZ. He normally tolerates psychedelics quite well (particularly LSD) and was curious as to what a high dose of LSZ would be like. He reported that the come up was much quicker than with all previous trials with LSZ. Nausea increased steadily until he was forced to throw up right before the peak of the experience. He reported that this vomiting was incredibly intense, sort of a "purge" type feeling/activity. The trip itself was intense but not as much as expected. He said it was about on par with 2-3 hits of decent LSD but with less of a visual component. 7 hours after ingestion he was surprisingly clear headed but still suffering from mild stomach discomfort.
Yesterday my friend M ingested two hits (300ug) of LSZ by himself. His trip was spent listening to Pink Floyd and Jimi Hendrix. He described it as his most intense psychedelic experience yet, his previous experiences being: 150ug LSZ, 225ug LSZ, and one drop (unknown quantity) of LSD. He said that it was less visual than LSD, but the physical and mental intensity was incredibly strong. His most profound experience during this trip was extreme time dilation, to the point of observing reality in "slow motion". He reported that there were multiple instances where he was left questioning his sanity, this reality, divinity, and the nature of the universe. While less "recreational" than his previous experiences, he said it was by far his most rewarding experience yet. He said that, for him at least, 300ug LSZ might be the "sweet spot" dose.
David the Chansey
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I don't think I ever reported back my experience, so here it is, later rather than never.
My friend D and I took 2.5 tabs (~375mcg) of LSZ each. It took a while to come up, about 2 hours before we started having interesting visuals. I smoked 5f-akb-48 during the trip, which considerably boosted the intensity of the visuals. It also prevented any come up poo, which I usually get when taking drugs. I got some vasoconstriction, which I wouldn't say was severe, but was unsettling at times. I think the cannabinoid helped alleviate it a little.
The visuals were not as strong as what I expected from this dose, but I feel the experience could have been affected by me eating food during the come up, despite having had breakfast just 2 hours before. My short term memory was appalling, so much so that I couldn't form a sentence that structurally made sense, because I'd forget everything that I'd just said. I think smoking made this even more pronounced, seeing as 5f-akb makes me feel stupified just by itself. I felt more aware of things that normally I would not waste time processing consciously - simple things, like noticing a plug socket and then having an in depth chain of thought about plugs.
Being in public was uncomfortable for me, and it was very obvious that I was tripping. There was a moment when I was walking the D back to the bus station and a police van drove past us and just stopped some short distance down the road, all as we were waiting to cross a busy road. My heart has never pounded so fast! I've never been arrested before and it's something I'm very paranoid about whenever I'm in public when I'm high.
So my final thought on this experience is that it was very similar to my experience on LSD in terms of altered consciousness, but the visuals were not as crazy as I would've hoped for. I've had stronger visuals from 2mg 25B-NBOMe. I'm deffo gonna try AL-LAD next, it seems to have a stronger visual component to the trip.
My friend D and I took 2.5 tabs (~375mcg) of LSZ each. It took a while to come up, about 2 hours before we started having interesting visuals. I smoked 5f-akb-48 during the trip, which considerably boosted the intensity of the visuals. It also prevented any come up poo, which I usually get when taking drugs. I got some vasoconstriction, which I wouldn't say was severe, but was unsettling at times. I think the cannabinoid helped alleviate it a little.
The visuals were not as strong as what I expected from this dose, but I feel the experience could have been affected by me eating food during the come up, despite having had breakfast just 2 hours before. My short term memory was appalling, so much so that I couldn't form a sentence that structurally made sense, because I'd forget everything that I'd just said. I think smoking made this even more pronounced, seeing as 5f-akb makes me feel stupified just by itself. I felt more aware of things that normally I would not waste time processing consciously - simple things, like noticing a plug socket and then having an in depth chain of thought about plugs.
Being in public was uncomfortable for me, and it was very obvious that I was tripping. There was a moment when I was walking the D back to the bus station and a police van drove past us and just stopped some short distance down the road, all as we were waiting to cross a busy road. My heart has never pounded so fast! I've never been arrested before and it's something I'm very paranoid about whenever I'm in public when I'm high.
So my final thought on this experience is that it was very similar to my experience on LSD in terms of altered consciousness, but the visuals were not as crazy as I would've hoped for. I've had stronger visuals from 2mg 25B-NBOMe. I'm deffo gonna try AL-LAD next, it seems to have a stronger visual component to the trip.
theacidtest
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I'm fairly surprised that LSZ isn't more popular. It's not quite on the same level as LSD, but very close. I rather enjoy it and hope it remains available. I'm really looking forward to combining it with AL-LAD soon, as well as combining it with LSD. In fact, I feel that its real potential may be using it to augment other lysergamides.
getinnocuous
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I'll be trying this out later on tonight, looking forward to seeing its effects. Trip report to follow.
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I only did 150mics once and found it light-ish (like a nominal half blotter of good acid),
I did 75mics a few times and found it light but interesting especially mixed with a bit of nbome.
I love LSZ, but find I am eating too much paper per session,
and if I do the calculation it is much more costly than LSD per layer of psychedelic effect.
maybe next month I can get some more, it is a strange opportunity that it is legal to purchase, and one I am thankful for.
I did 75mics a few times and found it light but interesting especially mixed with a bit of nbome.
I love LSZ, but find I am eating too much paper per session,
and if I do the calculation it is much more costly than LSD per layer of psychedelic effect.
maybe next month I can get some more, it is a strange opportunity that it is legal to purchase, and one I am thankful for.
getinnocuous
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Last Night
My two cents on LSZ.
Took it for the first time last night (around 225 ug - 1.5 tabs). Drop both at around 20:00. Took about 2 hours for a noticeable effect. I dropped after a large meal 1 hour prior so that might have slowed things down a little.
From around 22:00 to 02:00 the effects slowly increased. They're were some open eye visuals, enhance vision, some morphing and distortion (albeit a lot milder than I was expecting). Music sounded good, nice body feeling, i found myself looking up more info on the psychedelic - was pretty engrossed. I was able to function pretty well during this time. Once it got to a certain stage it didn't feel like the effects would increase.
I turned in around 02:30. Turned the lights off leaving only the light through my window, effects were still there (again mild), fuzziness, some minor tracers.
Overall I would say this is a nice chemical, a definate LSD like feeling. I didn't notice any problems with the come up. I was a little underwhelmed with the visuals if I'm honest- I was looking for a bit more - but I will be trying this again at 300 ug and see where I can get with it.
My two cents on LSZ.
Took it for the first time last night (around 225 ug - 1.5 tabs). Drop both at around 20:00. Took about 2 hours for a noticeable effect. I dropped after a large meal 1 hour prior so that might have slowed things down a little.
From around 22:00 to 02:00 the effects slowly increased. They're were some open eye visuals, enhance vision, some morphing and distortion (albeit a lot milder than I was expecting). Music sounded good, nice body feeling, i found myself looking up more info on the psychedelic - was pretty engrossed. I was able to function pretty well during this time. Once it got to a certain stage it didn't feel like the effects would increase.
I turned in around 02:30. Turned the lights off leaving only the light through my window, effects were still there (again mild), fuzziness, some minor tracers.
Overall I would say this is a nice chemical, a definate LSD like feeling. I didn't notice any problems with the come up. I was a little underwhelmed with the visuals if I'm honest- I was looking for a bit more - but I will be trying this again at 300 ug and see where I can get with it.
getinnocuous
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Thinking of giving this another go tonight. Probably around 300 ug.
Anyone have any more insights?
Anyone have any more insights?
getinnocuous
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Yes, a week pretty much to the hour, would like to maybe give it an extra day but Saturdays are normally the night.
getinnocuous
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Will probably gum them for a bit before swallowing this time to see if there is any difference in onset.
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I did 300 mcg today and I chewed and swished the blotters for 20 minutes before swallowing and had no nausea at all really. Still took a long time to come on, like 2 hours. Mild acid-like CEVs and some slight open-eye visual disturbances, nothing major. I did do a couple kits of acid last weekend so there may have been a little residual tolerance. Pretty mild effects for 300 mcg really.