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The Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread (Third Injection)

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Its 2 pm the next day and I still haven't slept. I'm still gonna use ketamine but this makes it really inconvenient.
 
So I have to ask, how do heavy ketamine users sleep? I read in this thread of people taking 1-4 grams a day. Do you get a tolerance to the after effects?
 
I sleep with no problem with heavy daily use (around 700-1000mg a day). I wake up feeling amazing and with out that grouchy lazy attitude that hits me when i have work to do that day. I will say, I don't have them most restful night sleeps, but its better than opiates where I'm still left a little tired the next day.
 
It's best to make sure you have something to do when you come down, or you'll really be climbing the walls. Benzodiazepines will help you sleep though, quite easily. And yeah, you may still wake up feeling like a zombie (and looking like one).
 
Background:

I have been a constant k user since around about 4 years ago, ranging from 2 grams a week year one, to 4 grams a week year two, 1 gram a day year three, 2 grams a day year four.

I had to move away from Brighton in england because it was too easy for me to get the stuff, £10 a full gram from atleast 5-6 dealers, 24 hours a day ease.

I'm not doing so bad now that its not available to me so easily, though I do about once a month go and pick up a half litre or so (25 grams) and will then binge untill its gone, around 3 grams a day.

Sleeping used to be a problem when I was taking lower dosages but now my tolerance is waaaay up, I can sleep 20 mins after a line...dependant on how long I'd been up for before hand obviously ;)

starting to really worry about my health now, have had a dodgy cough since christmas, have quit smoking since then (like 2 months ago) and still have it.

might be to do with living in a house now with pet rats, which is what im hoping for - but i cant tell!
 
Can people tell me about their experiences with ketamine obtained in a crystalline form and then cooked it with water to turn it into a flowery texture?
Most of my friends argue that cooking it to the flowery texture makes it better (because its more potent, maybe?), but I don't see any benefits from just crushing the crystals. Is there any reason to cook it further and not just take as is?
 
It's just a personal preference thing. Whether you recook it or just crush it you end up with ketamine powder exactly the same. It's the extra surface area of a fine powder that helps it to absorb quicker that makes it feel stronger if well crushed/powdered, I would think. Adding water doesn't tend to increase the potency of anything really ;)

Makes no difference. I prefer to crush cos adding unnecessary heat always brings a slight risk of too much heat fucking the ket up. Nowt worse than burnt ket. Also gives your thumb a good workout. Healthy thumbs ftw.
 
I personally think it burns a lot less if you crush it in a mortar with a pestle vs recrystalizing it with water over heat. It also takes a lot longer to do this, and doesn't provide any advantage at all except you can add coloring or flavor (don't know why people do that). The crystals are also smaller, and I personally think you lose a lot less as well.
 
did ketamine for the first time last night, after drinking about 10 beers at a house party. i ended up flopped on a basement couch for the last half of the night. it was really cool for a while, i felt like every idea i had had 10 different dimensions to it. i would think a thought, and analyze it to it's most complex form, thinking about every single facet of the idea. it felt psychedelic in the mindset but no visuals. i forgot about my body a couple of times. i felt like i could think deeper than normal. the thoughts were like a spider web, not like mushrooms or normal psychedelics where thoughts become melty, on ketamine they were angular, it was such a weird feeling.

by the way, i snorted it but it didn't really burn at all, or maybe i just didn't notice because i was too messed up, i don't know haha

another interesting part of it was comparing to mushrooms, i felt like ketamine didn't have a mysterious aspect to it at all, it was straight information and didn't play games with my head or lead me into any dead ends of introspection. going to try it again sometime soon, without the beers this time, i needed to throw up so bad the whole time, it was ridiculous
 
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^ yeah, don't do K with a lot of alcohol. I do K + alcohol often, so it would be hypocritical for me to tell you not to do it, but it can lead dysphoria/vomiting/blacking out and a lot of other bad things. Just know your limits and make sure you don't drink a lot in conjunction with K.
 
You should really try k on its on to get a good picture of it. 10 beers ime will numb down most if not all psychedelic drugs. I've ripped breakthrough size doses of DMT 8+ beers deep, and the experience, as cool as they were, were very shallow, and lacking in visual intensity.

I love Ketamine and alcohol. Very nice combo, but of course needed to be pursued with caution. Ketamine could potentially increase the chance for respiratory depression, even with it's minimal to negligible amount experienced during surgical procedures. Combing CNS depressants are not something that should be taken lightly, so watch your alcohol intake. Though I found, and research has shown ketamine to decrease the desire for alcohol. So I find myself drinking less as well as increasing the level of intoxication with the combination of ketamine. Not to mention that little psychedelic and energetic kit (low doses of k) from the ketamine.
 
Wow dude DMT while you're drunk must've been weird, did you need to throw up at all or anything?

I get what you mean too, I think ketamine would have been a lot better without the beer, or at least without so much, it kind of clouded the effects.

also what you said there clears up why i couldn't breathe at some points...scared me for a bit

will less alcohol mean less nausea? or should i maybe take a dramamine next time? i've heard that helps
 
Wow dude DMT while you're drunk must've been weird, did you need to throw up at all or anything?

I agree with Cloudy.

DMT + Booze = weak combo. Kinda pretty and fun though, admittedly.

2C-B + 2C-D + DMT + pissed out my skull on gin + Nirvana played fuckin' loud = Nirvana itself... pretty much... but wasn't quite the same magic as DMT sans booze...

Ket + Booze = horrid combo, I'd say. Certainly in excess. Spins yer head something chronic but not often in a good way. I drink heavily with almost everything... except ket.
 
Wow dude DMT while you're drunk must've been weird, did you need to throw up at all or anything?

I get what you mean too, I think ketamine would have been a lot better without the beer, or at least without so much, it kind of clouded the effects.

also what you said there clears up why i couldn't breathe at some points...scared me for a bit

will less alcohol mean less nausea? or should i maybe take a dramamine next time? i've heard that helps

I don't find DMT (smoked) to cause nausea, and if I smoked DMT, I definitely wasn't in a shitty place when it comes to how I was feeling while drunk.


Yeah, it could be you experienced some respiratory depression (which alcohol can do alone), but being intoxicated on ketamine can lead to the feeling of not breathing, even when you are having no trouble doing so. Mind trickery.

I agree with Cloudy.

DMT + Booze = weak combo. Kinda pretty and fun though, admittedly.

2C-B + 2C-D + DMT + pissed out my skull on gin + Nirvana played fuckin' loud = Nirvana itself... pretty much... but wasn't quite the same magic as DMT sans booze...

Ket + Booze = horrid combo, I'd say. Certainly in excess. Spins yer head something chronic but not often in a good way. I drink heavily with almost everything... except ket.

Yeah, DMT and booze can be a waste of spice imo, but it is fun. I do like low doses of DMT and booze though. You get that body buzz going with a added appreciation for music. Smoking 15-20mg every 5-10 minutes gets me in the groove :D
 
it's kinda funny seeing people talk so casually about dmt, i'm a bit intimidated by it myself and everyone i know regards it as like the most extreme thing on earth :\

especially shambles up there with your psychedelic cocktail, you are a brave man to me hahaha
 
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