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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Bromo-Dragonfly/DOB-Dragonfly Thread

^^^^^
where did that info about DNA come from?

It would seem that there is a pretty clear correlation between duration of effects and degree of tolerance.

DMT>no tolerance
5-meo-dmt>no tolerance
salvia (a different receptor set, i know)>no tolerance
4-ho-dmt>"average" tolerance
DOC>massive tolerance
Br-Dfly>massive massive tolerance???

I would assume this tolerance is both a result of 5-HT downregulation, and psychological tolerance or habituation to the effects of a drug which gives you over ten hours to settle down and get comfortable.
 
argh! i have no tolerance to psychs, havent indulged in long time, never w/BRDF or DOC at all.

MDMA makes me go to sleep, no more of that for me, the only things still working are desoxy and mdpyrovalerone - oh, and the jah kind green. and dMT.

nonchalant - yep, made peace w/God and have nothing to be ashamed of xcept blind stupidity. i was ready to die and was surprised i did not, a medical search for an explain is in progress.
 
Erowid has a couple trip reports on it. Some peeps said it wasn't all that grand, but I've hardly ever even heard of the stuff.
 
I reckon there's cute little 1mg in 1ml vials of this stuff sitting in freezers all across the land. :)
 
^Yeah, I think its an "add to the collection" piece personally. I may try 500ug whenever I get my scales back....though I probably won't. If Xorkoth hasn't, then I'm not! :)
 
I have taken it..

VERY nice and intense visuals with little to no mind fuck.

My girlfriend spent the first half of the trip admiring the visuals but then throwing up every 20 or so minutes.. in the end of course she had nothing to puke so was dry heaving.. she also got this with 2ce.. (we are both on SSRI's.. me citalopram, her fluoxetine and i didn't get this with either chemical)..

Would definately do it again.

Swilow: if you wanna send me over some for some.. umm.. testing.. i will be happy to help :P
 
2.8mg was no mean feat either. Very rewarding (after it was over) but what an ordeal of visual distortion to say the least.
 
got a few mgs of this infamous BrDF but haven't ever even come close to considering ingestion. so many substances to try, so few timeslots that I have in my life now that allow me to ingest psychedelics and go with the flow.
 
Hppd with Dob-dfly

Hi im fairly new to this forum so apologies if this is not allowed.

I have been taking psychedelics for about 3 years starting with lsd and shrooms, then moving on to rc's.
I have enjoyed all my experiences with these substances with no regrets, except bromo-dfly.
In total i tripped 5 times on this substance with doses ranging from about 700ug to 1.5mg.
Now looking back 6 months after my last trip on it, i still have various hppd symptoms.
This only happened after the bromo and was not brought on by anything else, i have tripped on lsd since and it has not affected my hppd.
Why i carried on taking bromo after my first trial, dont ask:p

Has anyone else experienced any long lasting effects after taking this specific substance?
With the recorded deaths aswell, i just dont think this compound is safe.
 
I don't have any insight into the issue, but I would really like to hear more in-depth reports on the five experiences you had with BDFLY. If you feel like it, maybe type something up for the Trip Reports forum?
 
Well, what do you mean when you say "HPPD?" Do you mean slight lingering visual effects, because those are quite common and usually resolve on their own if you take a break from psychedelic use. Or do you mean that you experienced a panic attack after taking Bromo-DFLY and had a bad trip? If you could describe your symptomatology it would be helpful.

Also, while I am a true psychonaut and have taken a bevy of uncommon psychedelic compounds, I would still be hesitant to try something like Bromo-DFLY, considering its potency, duration and entirely unknown safety profile. If you want a psychedelic that is guaranteed not to be physically dangerous, it is best to stick with something like LSD (if you are lucky enough to be able to obtain it): the therapeutic ratio is incredibly high and toxic overdose is virtually unheard of.
 
It does seem that the 4-halo-2,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine derivatives (well IMO) are the worst offenders when it comes to HPPD symptoms. |The one compound that left me with visual distortions etc and an occasional feeling of getting electric shocks was 2C-I. Nothing else has produced anything like that in a long history of using psychedelics


That this seems to have happened with DOB dragonfly actually comes as no surprise (esp with doses in excess of 1mg)...
 
Well, as long as it isn't impairing your ability to function, all I have to say is: Enjoy!
 
I just got a sugar cube of DOB last week and am very wary to take it.
I think it's going to stay in my stash box for a fair while... Also worried as the guy said there's 1500 mcs on there but 2 drops enough for two people. I didn't think at the time to ask him whether he meant two doses of 1500mcs or 750 each.. *sigh*
 
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