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The Big & Dandy AMT / αMT Thread - 4th Rush

Do you get nauseous from AMT?

  • Yes, quite a bit / unusually so

    Votes: 37 25.0%

  • Yes, but only a little

    Votes: 55 37.2%

  • No

    Votes: 48 32.4%

  • Sometimes / Completely depends on whether it is salt or freebase

    Votes: 8 5.4%
  • Total voters
    148
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Transform said:
30mg sounds good for a first time. With the stronger batch you will be quite safe whereas with a weaker one you will have a noticeable mood lift and energy boost within minimal psychedelia.
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Agreed with Transform. My post-allergy test dose for the first time was 30mg with a completely empty stomach (i.e. in the morning, after sleeping, no breakfast).

There was no nausea, no discomfort, nice head-space & a good hint at what could come. It left me feel excited to try and stronger dose. A very good & stable first time.
 
onthebeach said:
I have just managed to get 100mg of amt today, I'm excited to try it! I have put a tiny amount in my mouth to see whether I'll get any bad reactions and I felt nothing (~1 hour later).
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Sure you're well underway long since but will be interested to read what you made of it. aMT here too tonight, middling dose for me, enough to be visual OEV without being too stimulating. Most serene this evening. :)
 
after all the glowing reports I'm tempted to try this one, anyone has any more info on its activity on 5ht2b receptor?

any tips or previous discussions on preloading/postloading to minimize harm on amt?
I've had a look around but can't seem to find research papers on this, if you know a good one I would love to have a read through.
thanks a lot in advance for any info!
 
I decided to take it this morning after waking up (I can't really afford to mess my sleeping pattern up this week). Dosed a bit over an hour ago. Does anyone eat on this? Or should I just not eat the whole day?
 
I snack a little bit through out most trips, mostly cause I don't ever feel like eating, but know at some point regardless of drugs my body will demand food and that will in turn make me nauseous and then eating will be even more horrible.
 
Ben So Furry said:
Personally I find it suppresses my appetite but others have commented that eating on aMT is very pleasurable, in fact someone earlier in the thread commented that food tasted so good on it he was drawn to tears of joy!

I love warm tea while on it, tastes stunning.
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I <3 tea in any situation.

About the appetite thing, I've found that while aMT does suppress mine, there was one time when I hadn't eaten for 3 days. I was on aMT and the hunger sort of powered through the appetite suppression and I managed to eat a pizza. It was the best pizza I've ever eaten. It was also a vegetarian option since my friend is a veggie... normally I'm a huge carnivore and cannot live without meat, but I did not bat an eyelid on this occasion. :)
 
AMT suppresses my appetite. However, on one occasion I swallowed a gel-cap (my typical ROA) at breakfast time (because it is so long a trip, this is usually when I'll take it) and shortly after taking it, felt hungry. I ate a bit of pseudo-food (i.e. something like a brownie) and was vomiting it up 5 minutes later (though I expect I'd have also vomited real food, like a salad). I've no experience with eating well into the trip, but I drink plenty of water or tea. There's no amazing taste to the tea, though, but it is nice to smoke my e-cigarette.
 
I don't really know what to make of it.

It felt like it wasn't quite sure where it wanted me to go and kept giving me different vibes. The jaw-clenching was horrible even though I'd taken magnesium the night before :(
But I do think that maybe with a higher dose I could really enjoy it! I had basically no visuals (apart from brighter colours and fuzzy edges if that counts?), I hope those come with higher doses :)

Does anyone have any other tips for the jaw-clenching? And maybe any ideas for a better setting?
 
Try repeatedly clenching and unclenching your hands. I actually enjoy a bit of jaw tension but this is a technique friends use when it gets too much.
 
I take magnesium like an hour before taking stimulants and that helps, maybe its a timing problem? That being said I don't get jaw clenching as bad as other people tend to.
 
ShaggyFin said:
I REALLY wish this wasn't illegal in America. AMT and DPT both sound VERY promising. And I would eventually like to mix AMT or DPT with DMT and see what happens. Maybe in an ayahuasca brew or something :D
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just for the record, mixing monoamine releasers (and aMT is a serotonin releaser) with MAO-inhibitors is dangerous...
 
^ Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression aMT was a MAOI, not a MAO releaser. Although I have no knowledge of the dangers of combining two MAOIs...

people round here can't seem to decide whether aMT is a strong or weak MAOI though... if the former is the case, could it in theory be used by itself to fulfil the role of a MAOI in an ayahuasca brew?
 
It is a monoamine rleaser as well as a monoamine oxidase inhibitor.

Its strength as an MAOI is disputed but it does not seem like it would be strong enough to orally activate DMT.

aMT mixed with the MAOIs in ayahuasca would almost certainly be seriously dangerous, well spotted bagseed.
 
Ohhhhhh. I see where I got confused :sus:

This is why I posted with a disclaimer as I dread the notion of spreading misinformation. Shame that aMT doesn't seem powerful enough for replacement of other MAOIs in ayahuasca though. That could have been interesting.
 
can anyone describe the stimulating properties of amt. from what ive read it seems a lower dose gives stimulation without the psychaldelia. is it unpleasant stim or a quite speedy feeling? (which i like), or is it just really fidgety cant sit still in an uncomfortable anxious way?
 
thanks for that ben, so would you say its euphoric at small doses?
after allergy testing, as a first time thing im going try 10mg (im quite sensitive to most things in general) and because of the longevity i dont want to have too much and not enjoy it. ive got no problem with being underwhelmed and missing out on the full on trippiness of the experience.
 
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