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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Allylescaline Thread

jason7 said:
Definitely not hitting the right combination of receptors. General gastro unease and body weakness are the main effects. Slight visual effects, like a general spongeyness to things, slight movement. Nothing that makes it preferable to being completely normal. Not erotic at all. You just want to lay down until it passes so the slight sick feeling will go away.
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for some reason, this hit me as being remarkably similar to how i felt first time i tried aMT, also at a lowish dose. i felt sick, the trip felt unitneresting and i spent the time trying to put it on the right track, and giving up and just waiting for it to end.... that being said, i have yet to try allylescaline, but for some reason, if i do get the same response, i will not be giving up, but trying other doses, as some chems take off at different levels... thanks for the report!
 
SONN said:
^TBH, me too. There's one guy that says everyone's not taking enough, then there's this guy that says its food poisoning..
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I've always had my beats on atleast some marked improvement of intensity though obviously what sort of added side effects this could bring are unknown and possibly make it less worthwhile. People always have to test things themselves though and out of all things to test at higher doses that might result in a bit of nastiness I know mescaline would probably be one I would rather deal with. With mescaline for me its always like people talk about AL, but given the right time or jump in dose mescaline can/will be a whole other ball game.
 
I thought I would just add that plugging definitely increases potency a lot. I plugged 30 mg and despite tolerance (4-aco-dmt experiences ~7 days and 3 days before), and what seems to be a naturally high tolerance to psychedelics in general, I got a lot more out it than I was expecting. Again, not much visual, but lots of tactile and pleasant body feelings. If I had to guess I'd say it would probably have been the equivalent of 70-100 mg orally.
 
Dmytry said:
this compound is structurally similar to, but still nothing like mescaline, due to the allyl chain at the 4 position. think back to 5-MeO-DALT: kind of like 5-MeO-DMT, except that it wasnt. at all. with the allyl groups on 5-MeO-DALT it didnt get interesting until about 75mg, when it started to get pretty rough on the body. this compound is probably very similar due to the allyl group. AND we still have no idea about the pharmacology of 5-MeO-DALT, let alone any allyl 4-subbed PEA
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I found 5-MeO-DALT and 5-MeO-DMT to have some similarities when smoked, but huge doses were needed with 5-MeO-DALT and there was quite a bit of nausea which increased with every hit - fun, but not really worth it.

AL seems really interesting, sucks that I can't find it available anywhere...
 
SONN said:
You're not supposed to put PEA structured chems into acidic drinks it lessens the absorption, apparently a more basic environment potentiates the absorption so you should take a tums before it next time.
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This is not true. low pH (acidic) speeds up absorption and excretion. High pH slows absorption and excretion.

It's all about the water solubility. Acids neutralise the basic alkaloids, which means they are more water soluble and the body can transport them around better.
 
I read that that was the case for tryptamines but PEAs were the other way around somewhere else on this forum. I suppose I could be wrong
 
Transform said:
This is not true. low pH (acidic) speeds up absorption and excretion. High pH slows absorption and excretion.

It's all about the water solubility. Acids neutralise the basic alkaloids, which means they are more water soluble and the body can transport them around better.
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its true that antacids like tums help absorption of PEAs, they make them neutral which helps it cross the intestinal lining much faster
http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/adderall-with-tums-kids-190-1645-464-13127.html
 
^cool, I was right. I'll be taking a tums shortly before I dose this chem.

A lot of people say its better to not do much on this chem, how about a little aquarium visit though? Is that chill enough or am I probably just gonna wanna be immobile for most of it?
 
I read about a rumor about someone who managed to get themselves killed with AL. Haven't been able to locate any report backing the claim up. The source insists the event took indeed took place, and even maintains a US vendors site selling the stuff went offline rcently in connection to the incident.

Could anybody shed more light on this?
 
agnetha said:
I read about a rumor about someone who managed to get themselves killed with AL. Haven't been able to locate any report backing the claim up. The source insists the event took indeed took place, and even maintains a US vendors site selling the stuff went offline rcently in connection to the incident.

Could anybody shed more light on this?
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I also came here wondering about this. Anyone know anything?
 
All of the reports of this incident (the death) have been very bizarre and third-hand. Rumors of poisoning and other nonsense, almost everything coming from third-party sources, etc.

I believe it is far too early to say that AL was the causative agent - in fact, it actually seems like a grim coincidence to me.

So basically I don't think we have anything to worry about yet - we need a lot more information before we can draw any conclusion at all.
 
wouldnt this be all over the news somewhere? i mean, the press loves giving drugs a bad name, and in other cases before they always were reported (5IT more recently for instance)
 
SONN said:
A lot of people say its better to not do much on this chem, how about a little aquarium visit though? Is that chill enough or am I probably just gonna wanna be immobile for most of it?
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A little excursion to the Aquarium, a day on the shore or sightseeing are excellent choices. You're not stimmed or overly agitated but there is the distinct urge for locomotion and light exercise. Step out to dissipate this vague need for physical exercise and explore your surroundings. You won't be self-conscious or feel compelled to hiding a major high, it's pretty mild overall.
 
A word of warning: Snorting approximately 25~30mg of Allylescaline HCL resulted in a severe pain and inflammation in the nostril used for insufflation. I've been snorting 2C's for a while so it probably contributed to the damage, but the Allylescaline HCL seems to be particularly damaging.
 
Did this chem once before at the 70mg level (TR on page 8)
Came back to it again a week ago with a friend. We decided that it would make a really good headspace to use as a springboard for another trip.
We took ~50mg each Allylescaline and then 2 1/2 hours in (when we felt sure we had peaked, and our stomachs had settled) we took ~12mg of 4-AcO-DMT.
I don't have time to write a ful TR but lemme just say this, the synergy was VERY noticeable. 12mg 4-AcO-DMT would never have given me crazy visuals. And the Allylescaline certainly didn't. But together... WOW. I covered my eyes with a blanket to achieve complete darkness, and was greeted by crystal clear images of swirling patters that showed a sort of landscape. There were hills and a sun.... and a shadowy figure, whose shape was made of rippling black geometry, was standing between me and the sunset.

I've never had closed eye visuals like that in my life. Tryp Phen combos dude... they are something else.
 
I decided to use my 64mg sample on a trip to six flags, I took it shortly before getting in and about 2 hours in I started getting a pretty nice phen body buzz that actually suited the rollercoasters really well.

I got to smoke a joint shortly before this ride:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3k6LaOTc8U

and it was awesome, I felt like I was flying =D

I also had a really sweet time on the superman ride front row. I was even having visuals in the concrete shortly before getting on the ride.

then I went on kingda ka, literally the biggest rollercoaster in the world.

I had about an 80 minute wait in line for kingda ka when I decided to take a blotter of 600mcg 25c-NBOMe. I started getting visuals from it about 45 minutes in and I was pretty much peaking when I got to ride the biggest coaster in the world :D

The synergy seemed to work pretty well, although I had a pretty hard time getting to sleep that night. residual stimulation does that to me often. It was a great day and one of the last of the summer.
 
Sounds insane, I would never be able to do anything of the sort on such a high dose combo. Are you particularly tolerant to psychedelics?
 
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