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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Allylescaline Thread

I would say I'm a little more tolerant than most, to phens specifically. I had a big group of friends with me the whole time and I'm just pretty experienced with tripping in public.

In line for kingda ka I was cheesing big time lol and my pupils were huge. I was in line for the front row and a lady in the row behind me was talking to me and kept asking me if I was scared lol the convo pretty much went like this

'have you ever ridden this before?'
'yea when I was about 13 years old I think'
'are you scared?'
'Scared?! fuck no! I'm excited are you kidding me??'
'did you know sometimes the ride doesn't always make it to the top and it ends up falling back down the whole way'
'I'm excited for that!'
then my friend pat interjected with, 'he's tripping balls right now.'

and somehow she didn't know what that meant and she just kept asking if I was scared which kept adding to my excitement lol

it was fucking awesome going 125 mph and then corkscrewing down 450 feet though.
 
Allylescaline takes 5-6 hours for the visual peak in my experience. Wait to take the 4-aco-dmt until about 4-5 hours in.
 
agnetha said:
I read about a rumor about someone who managed to get themselves killed with AL. Haven't been able to locate any report backing the claim up. The source insists the event took indeed took place, and even maintains a US vendors site selling the stuff went offline rcently in connection to the incident.

Could anybody shed more light on this?
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All that was removed from Wikipedia and the post came from a known troll account. Wouldn't put much stock in it.
 
really interested in the reports using AL as a spring board for a combo. any suggestions on dosage? thinking about combining it with 4-ho-mipt...
anyone see any problems in that combo? (as much as i can tell, there shouldnt be any)
 
I tried 23mg allylescaline hcl the day before yesterday, and was very disappointed. The onset was very mild, and the peak was nice, but the come down was absolutely hellish and dysphoric. I felt like I was withdrawing from 20mg amphetamine for hours. All my muscles hurt a lot, and I felt terrible. The next day I had the worst hangover I have ever had from a psychedelic. All the muscles in my face and shoulders hurt like a bitch, and I was making weird mistakes all day like putting hotdogs in the freezer and milk in the cupboard. I felt absolutely awful the entire day. Very spacey, and out of it. It also increased my tolerance to amphetamines.

Essentially, I felt like complete crap ever since about 3-4 hours into the experience. The whole thing lasted for about 8 hours, but 90-95% of the effects were gone by hour 6. I cannot overstate how bad I felt coming down and the next day. Even today, day 2 after the trip, I still feel a little crappy and out of it, but not nearly as bad as yesterday. Yesterday was hell. It was easily as bad as a hangover from high dose alcohol.

It left me feeling so bad that I am not likely to ever try allylescaline again. Even today my jaw still hurts, and yesterday all my muscles just felt awful.
 
That seems odd. I did feel a but washed out & groggy the day following my 42mg experience. Didn't have the physical symptoms you describe though. Seems particularly odd for such a low dose. Go figure. YMMV I suppose.
 
Yeah, it is odd. Even stranger is that I got only mild physical side effects from 25i-NBOMe (although it was a low dose), and I don't get any real physical side effects from 2C-E. But I seem to be unnaturally tolerant to 2C-E, even in high doses I get no nausea and little to no physical side effects. With AL, I guess statistically some people are bound to have negative reactions. It's unfortunate, I had high hopes for AL. YMMV.
 
Unelmaporsas said:
I found 5-MeO-DALT and 5-MeO-DMT to have some similarities when smoked, but huge doses were needed with 5-MeO-DALT and there was quite a bit of nausea which increased with every hit - fun, but not really worth it.

AL seems really interesting, sucks that I can't find it available anywhere...
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Nausea with 5-Meo-Dalt at high dose is horrible. I once did 110mg insufflated, and I got really sick.
 
I had no noticeable bad comedown and I even combined mine with 25c. I drank a little bit too on the comedown though... ^ YMMV QFT
 
Not if you take some ginger to ease nausea. Also, not everybody feels super nauseous with these chems.
 
I still haven't tried my AL. DOC or 2c-i have been my go to for longer experiences. I've been contemplating trying it this or next weekend to see how it combines with mary and spinning records. I just still haven't figured out a good starting dose. Sonn went big with 60 and loved it, but I've read of some difficult experiences at 35 mg. Any suggestions?
 
Redbong said:
I still haven't tried my AL. DOC or 2c-i have been my go to for longer experiences. I've been contemplating trying it this or next weekend to see how it combines with mary and spinning records. I just still haven't figured out a good starting dose. Sonn went big with 60 and loved it, but I've read of some difficult experiences at 35 mg. Any suggestions?
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Yeah, take 50 mg. if your not satisfied 3 hours in, you can still get added effects from a small booster, I'd say.

50 Mg was a good dose for me personally. I did also add ketamin though.
 
Fagott said:
Yeah, take 50 mg. if your not satisfied 3 hours in, you can still get added effects from a small booster, I'd say.

50 Mg was a good dose for me personally. I did also add ketamin though.
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I've never done k before, so I'm not sure what that would add. What kind of duration am I looking at? I'm wondering because AL is supposedly a subtle psych, and I may want to add to it if I feel underwhelmed. I do like an immersive experience. I was thinking maybe a medium sized dose of 4-HO-MiPT could really add to the headspace and provide some visuals. I'll still probably just take the AL alone for the first time. I'm just trying to figure out what's what. Thanks!
 
Redbong said:
What kind of duration am I looking at? I'm wondering because AL is supposedly a subtle psych, and I may want to add to it if I feel underwhelmed. I do like an immersive experience. I was thinking maybe a medium sized dose of 4-HO-MiPT could really add to the headspace and provide some visuals. I'll still probably just take the AL alone for the first time. I'm just trying to figure out what's what. Thanks!
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it's pretty long lived, I think it was something like 3 hours till full effect. read the thread, all the info's there.

My advice, just do it! :) start with 35 mg, if it's not enough at +3 hours, add 20 MG.

Wise of you to not add another drug first time you try it. I did add ketamine the first time though, but I felt comfortable doing that.

good luck, and report back :)
 
The last post is absolutely true. Don't let your cat experiment this way because it may pose a threat to itself and others.

My cat likes this with shr_oms

My cat did not like this with vyvanse, 25B-NBOMe, MDAI, ehtylketamine, or MJ
 
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