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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Allylescaline Thread

I probably took a good 50mg of it one time to finish off the bag.
Not euphoric. But it does give you character like the smart drugs do.
I lick my lips like margaret mcpoyle in IASIP now.
 
Has anybody else noticed a complete lack of tolerance from this drug? I can use it day after day after day with no loss of effects at the same exact dosages, and I've also pushed it up to 180mg with another 80mg 8 hours later, and it had me cyclically passing out into mundane visions of my future and shit. Allylescaline seems really slept on.

Shulgin's recommended range is great if you're looking for a mescaline-like experience, but allylescaline at least appears to have a ton more to offer than mescaline due to its increased potency and seemingly solid safety profile.
 
Posted this in the social thread but figured I'd paste it here as well:

My best friend rented an Airbnb and invited me along. The first night we did 3-me-pcp, 2cb and metocin. It was a good time. Nothing crazy but an enjoyable time.

The following night we did Allylescaline. 40mg each followed by another 20mg 3 hours later. Long come up with that stuff. Started ti kick in in maybe 40 minutes to an hour but didn't peak until about 3 hours in. It also has some long legs. I was still awake and pretty stimulated with lingering minor visual effects 15 hours after the redose, and that was even after 1000mg Soma, lots of gabapentin, red vein kratom and chamomile tea. 2.5mg of DOM had me tripping for 36 hours so maybe I'm just sensitive or metabolize some phenethylamimes slowly.

I really enjoyed Allylescaline though. Very gentle headspace and rather reminiscent of Mescaline. 40mg of Allylescaline felt similar in strength to maybe 400mg of mescaline, just with a somewhat less introspective headspace and a lower feeling of intensity. I've never had a strong mescaline trip and have taken it up to 500mg. Mescaline always feels intense without the trip actually being intense if that makes sense. Allylescaline was gentle, great body high for the most part, light headspace while retaining some introspection. It was also sociable with good humor. Mildly visual at that dose but what it did do visually was beautiful and it made colors pop. I see it being great for combos but it's still worthwhile on its own
 
Thanks for your report! I really enjoyed reading it. Allylescaline may be one of the few 'scalines I've never tried. Proscaline, mescaline, methallylescaline, and one day soon escaline (not to mention the 3C-s, although no TMAs.) Allylescaline just never crossed my path, but you make it sound lovely.
 
Pfafffed said:
Thanks for your report! I really enjoyed reading it. Allylescaline may be one of the few 'scalines I've never tried. Proscaline, mescaline, methallylescaline, and one day soon escaline (not to mention the 3C-s, although no TMAs.) Allylescaline just never crossed my path, but you make it sound lovely.
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I appreciate it :)

I did really enjoy Allylsecaline. Don't know much about proscaline but escaline sounds like pretty neat stuff. Only have tried mescaline and methallylescaline. Only did MAL once but I thought it was awesome. Wish I could acquire some more. Long lasting and very colorful.

Why do you say no TMAs? I'm sitting on some 3CP that I need to try. Nervous about psychedelic amphetamines ever since I had a traumatic DOM trip 7 or 8 years ago. Haven't touched a psychedelic amphetamine since. It's about time I give one a whirl
 
red22 said:
Hm, I wonder what that was like. I thought DOM was pretty light-hearted.
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It was light hearted until it turned on me. It actually felt pretty nice until then.

I don't feel like typing the whole thing out and can't find the last post where I explained in detail. Basically I could not stop cracking up. Like everything was hilarious and I was laughing for hours. It got to the point where I couldn't stop (like hysterical laughter), to the point that I felt like I couldn't breathe. It quickly became dark. Was convinced that I was dying. Was begging my friends to call my family so that I could say goodbye. Had dark visuals including a visual of my lung being removed and the resulting cavity being cauterized shut. I'll try it again one day. It did feel like a special chemical until it went dark on me
 
Wrote this in response to a direct message but I feel like it has a place on this thread

"What is allyl like compared to other scalines?"
Allyl is a blunted, mentally and visually shallow mood booster psychedelic. I mean you still get the energy, the social improvements, color enhancement, but anything beyond that is scarce. Even in high doses, (I've gone to ~90mg) the only effects that seem to be amplified are nausea and stomach cramps. I took that high dose on recommend from someone on bluelight - completely bogus and a waste of material. (I only have experience with M and AL as far as scalines go, though)
 
Nonyascaline said:
Wrote this in response to a direct message but I feel like it has a place on this thread

"What is allyl like compared to other scalines?"
Allyl is a blunted, mentally and visually shallow mood booster psychedelic. I mean you still get the energy, the social improvements, color enhancement, but anything beyond that is scarce. Even in high doses, (I've gone to ~90mg) the only effects that seem to be amplified are nausea and stomach cramps. I took that high dose on recommend from someone on bluelight - completely bogus and a waste of material. (I only have experience with M and AL as far as scalines go, though)
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I want to preface this by saying do not do what I did and I am notoriously hard-headed towards psychedelics. I have taken up to 180mg of Allylescaline orally, and ~95mg intranasally on separate occasions, as well as countless doses at lower ranges and in different mixes. For me, this feels like if mescaline had qualities inherent to LSD. Sharp and geometric visuals, profoundly sharpened and improved headspace and cognition, fantastic MDA-like bodyfeel and empathogenic effects, overall I find it to be a fantastic drug.

Compared to mescaline, it's more visual and tactile, less mental/"spiritual" and less empathogenic (though barely less empathogenic). If you put mescaline on one end of a spectrum and 2C-B on the other, it's like 20% of the way away from mescaline and 80% of the way away from 2C-B, if that makes sense.

I've vaporized this compound and it was pretty nice, but seemed like a waste of material.

Doses over 80mg for me involve cyclically passing out (as in, dropping straight to the floor like dead weight) having precognizant visions of my future, mundane moment like making a PB&J or performing a basement concert to like 25 people somewhere. Allylescaline is a beautiful and unique drug, however some people respond very poorly to it as far as escalated heartrate. My fiance @Felidaez uses it in PiHKAL doses (20-35mg or so), and my homie I'll just refer to as Mr. B took a 45 (or was it 60?) milligram dose and had to pop a few flualp bars (added up to ~2-3mg ot flualp total) to calm his heart down.
 
Esperighanto said:
I want to preface this by saying do not do what I did and I am notoriously hard-headed towards psychedelics. I have taken up to 180mg of Allylescaline orally, and ~95mg intranasally on separate occasions, as well as countless doses at lower ranges and in different mixes. For me, this feels like if mescaline had qualities inherent to LSD. Sharp and geometric visuals, profoundly sharpened and improved headspace and cognition, fantastic MDA-like bodyfeel and empathogenic effects, overall I find it to be a fantastic drug.

Compared to mescaline, it's more visual and tactile, less mental/"spiritual" and less empathogenic (though barely less empathogenic). If you put mescaline on one end of a spectrum and 2C-B on the other, it's like 20% of the way away from mescaline and 80% of the way away from 2C-B, if that makes sense.
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Even at a dose of >90mg the visuals remained minor for me. Almost every trip report I have ever read on AL does not mention strong visuals. It is interesting to me to see you respond so differently to this chem compared to everybody else. I'm not even sure it's the egregious dosing making the difference
 
Nonyascaline said:
Even at a dose of >90mg the visuals remained minor for me. Almost every trip report I have ever read on AL does not mention strong visuals. It is interesting to me to see you respond so differently to this chem compared to everybody else. I'm not even sure it's the egregious dosing making the difference
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I have super intense HPPD and tend to experience an overwhelming amount of visuals, it started after smoking a LOT of DMT and using a ton of harmaline and LSD. Before then, psychedelics were far less visual, idrk why. The visuals of AL aren't quite as in-your-face as some others, but when I'd pass out and have visions it was very similar to mescaline or a DMT-breakthrough.
 
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