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The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

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I'm curious how the ban will work out, especially with rumors of a third lysergamide on the horizon. It seems like it would be profitable enough to warrant simply moving the vendor to a country where it's unscheduled.

And my guess is, stored properly, this stuff should be good for quite a while.
 
just checked my source and they are officially out.....says theirs another batch??? DOes that mean a THIRD synth or just more backstock from the second synth. Anyone know?
 
When the price gets lower than LSD I might buy some. Until then, doesn't seem as attractive. I really didn't like it as much as LSD anyway. I was able to sleep though, so that's a plus. BTW, I can get all I want on the darknet right now. That's probably why the legal sites are sold out. People bought it up in bulk for resale on darknet.
 
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Primary appeal to me is that when getting it from a vendor, you know* what you're getting, the purity, and the dosage. My mate's I could get LSD from wouldn't have half a clue whether what they're giving me is LSD or not.

That, and AL-LAD is cheaper than LSD, as far as my sources go lol


*not ALWAYS true, but you know what I'm getting at.
 
Quote from PD social regarding my AL-LAD uhh....experience? from Saturday:

trozzle said:
OK, so I tried the AL-LAD I received last week (from a reputable vendor). I dosed 300ug, holding both tabs against my gums for approximately 45 mins. Sure, it's orally active, but I'd rather a method I know works than roll the dice with my digestive system haha

Anyway....effects never peaked beyond minor tracers, slightly warping walls and patterns, and generally feeling unwell and uneasy. Even with a mad tolerance for weed, the cones I smoked throughout what should've been the duration of the trip had more psychedelic effect than the AL-LAD. Overall the effects experienced were almost bang on with my LSD "trips".

The vendor is in Europe (sorry if this is too close to source discussion), and I'm in Australia. Likelihood the product somehow degraded in transit due to heat? Other than the remote possibility my body just rejects ergoloids....I can't think of anything haha
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Anyone have any thoughts on what may have gone askew?
 
Taking it subluingal will dramatically decrease the effects - particularly if you only held it for 45 minutes - this isn't nbome. 300mics would be uncomfortably intense for most people.

No possibility of heat really - it's pretty stable. I think you just took it the wrong way.
 
Wasn't sublingual, but yes - held in my mouth, against the outside of my gums above my teeth. I know it's not an NBOMe, though I can't see how that would make this ROA less effective (not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand how an NBOMe could be absorbed fully via this ROA, yet the AL-LAD wasn't)...does saliva etc in your mouth destroy the compound? Because I swallowed the blotters after the ~45 mins, so unless the AL-LAD was destroyed while it sat in my mouth unabsorbed....


I dunno. Could you give any insight into how this ROA can be ineffective for AL-LAD when it works perfectly fine for the NBOMe family (which aren't particularly orally active)? It's like polar opposite o.O
 
Why would sublingual absorption decrease effects? I was under the impression that sublingual was quite an optimal route of administration for lysergamides, if I've been mistaken I'd certainly be interested in knowing why.
 
I read in one of the trip reports linked on page 1 that someone else had heard they were less effective sublingually...though yeah I'm just baffled as to how this would make any sense.

I'm more than happy to be proven "wrong" and that AL-LAD is somehow ineffective when administered buccally/sublingually, but it just doesn't add up :(
 
Hm, I may have to just try swallowing it. I'm planning on taking 150ug tomorrow. The only reason I don't usually just swallow it is I worry about washing it down with water or other beverages. Most water (even bottled) contains at least some amount of chlorine.
 
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Most water (even bottled) contains at least some amount of chlorine.
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What is the issue with chlorine? Would gelcapping the tab help? Thats how I would administer orally. If I ever find the time to actually test AL-LAD that is ;)
 
trozzle said:
I read in one of the trip reports linked on page 1 that someone else had heard they were less effective sublingually...though yeah I'm just baffled as to how this would make any sense.
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Just suggesting theories troz. If you swallow 300mics of al-lad you are in for a ferocious time - to the point that you can barely see across the room and are completely confused. So either your blotters are bunk or it was something to do with the subluingal. Try swallowing em next time.
 
swallowed doses certainly appear to produce stronger effects more quickly...
 
I tried immediately swallowing my 150ug dose today instead of allowing it to absorb sublingually. For me, there was no difference in onset, duration, or potency. It took two hours to feel full effects, just like my previous 150ug sublingual dose.
 
It used to be that LSD would hit me pretty quickly. 20-40 minutes was pretty normal. However, I took a break for several years and since resuming my usage it takes around an hour to an hour and a half. Granted, I've only used LSD twice this year. It's a longer onset than I'm used to, but still quicker than LSZ and AL-LAD.
 
trozzle said:
Wasn't sublingual, but yes - held in my mouth, against the outside of my gums above my teeth. I know it's not an NBOMe, though I can't see how that would make this ROA less effective (not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand how an NBOMe could be absorbed fully via this ROA, yet the AL-LAD wasn't)...does saliva etc in your mouth destroy the compound? Because I swallowed the blotters after the ~45 mins, so unless the AL-LAD was destroyed while it sat in my mouth unabsorbed....


I dunno. Could you give any insight into how this ROA can be ineffective for AL-LAD when it works perfectly fine for the NBOMe family (which aren't particularly orally active)? It's like polar opposite o.O
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I think if anything it's likely the product degraded in transit. Sublingual/buccal worked perfectly fine with me for AL-LAD, just as it does with LSD. 150ug was a decent strength trip for me, though a little less strong than 100ug of LSD (which I find to be a strong +++ bordering on a ++++)

I think most of the people I know who've tried AL-LAD also took it sublingually because it's just the standard most common ROA for LSD and similar compounds. I know a few people have started swallowing their blotter for fear of getting an NBOMe, in the hope that taking it orally will make it inactive if it is, but after seeing people I know find 25C-NBOMe and others work perfectly fine orally I'm not convinced by that any more and just rely on having a good source and starting low each time to account for any mislabelling errors.
 
Does subluingal really extract every last skerrit of goody from a blotter tho JG? I know with things like DMT or LSA, if you swallow them they're an order of magnitude more powerful.
 
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