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The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

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75 will be good

It's appealing, i don't think pupil dilation will be an issue, i checked my eyes on 300 they seemed fine (at least when i focused on my reflection), i have a mild concern i could go very high on a low dose which can bring on the saucer eyes, i find i can get this with mushrooms so hardly ever microdose around family, my other concern is not being able enjoy the food!

Don't think "It's not so intense" after a couple of hours or so and redose murphy - al-lad has a habit of building and building from the 2 hour mark on.

So true, if you're used to mushrooms then you can think it's peaked at 2/3 hours, it's almost like it's in its nature to make you think 'this is it', then it isn't
 
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I remember taking 300mics once and after a couple hours thinking "This isn't so intense" - then after about 3 hours I could barely see across the room for the visuals.

Having said that I'm not massively keen on high dose al-lad, I find it quite confusing and overwhelming.
 
kk, so what is the sweet spot for you? think 200ug is a good first dose to the lysermine compounds?
I remember taking 300mics once and after a couple hours thinking "This isn't so intense" - then after about 3 hours I could barely see across the room for the visuals.

Having said that I'm not massively keen on high dose al-lad, I find it quite confusing and overwhelming.
 
it does not work in a linear way because you are in tolerance, but a reduced effect does happen.
I guess you would want to have lots to experiment with for this type of thing.
but that's expensive
 
1/4 blotter was nice for a family gathering, added a lightness to things but not very noticeable in an extroverted setting, felt it strongly when i was by myself later with a smoke @9hrs in, on reflection 1/2 would've been more interesting and worthwhile, i can feel some afterglow today aswell
 
Yeah, marijuana combines with AL-LAD beautifully. Once the trip is winding down you can basically restart and extend it with weed.
 
On the wind down of a mushroom trip if you catch it at the right time there can be a lovely synergistic effect, albeit very temporarily, however on the peak of any psychedelic i never enjoy it, i find it can turn things dull to downright dark and can bring on nausea rather than alleviate it, some love to smoke hard when they sense the peak coming though

I find adding anything to psychedelics detracts from rather than adds to the experience, generally less is more, just like on an empty stomach in silent darkness is best for revelatory experience, with eyes closed you see more, when i really think about psychedelics as entheogens it's not about adding things trying to spice it all up, if anything it's to strip the mind away to see what is actually here

In my experience psychedelics are best left to their own devices, next time i trip i will try to fast right through, it's so clear and crisp so why fog it up? the only things i really like to 'add' to psychedelics are fasting & meditation, both of these practiced sober can lead to similar states so it makes sense to make use of those same practices while using psychedelics to help potentiate and integrate them
 
I did some AL-LAD earlier this week, together with my buddy Einfachfunk, perhaps 200ug (I was holding two blotters for a few minutes asking which one would you like?
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) got in a nice psychedelic headspace, slight body high, less wavey and much more constant than 2C-B or LSD, but no visuals were noted. Music was great, will have to compare with LSZ & LSD soon?l

He started jamming a bit on his Korg ms2000 with vocoder and a little green delay stomp box, (with which I still need to come to terms with, as it sounded so awesome but is of a brand I once vowed to never put in my signal chain.) The music flowed without effort, it was simply pure audio porn... I didn't notice much of the AL-LAD beside a bit of headspace untill then the most intense experience was this great synergy between these two components and this velvet deep funking music him playing the keys and great but alien vocoder voice.. Truly out of this world... (I'm getting to 4-HO-MET) but first time to have a smoke and a post musical orgasm smoke on the couch.. Then he presented a plate of grilled chicken wings.. Now I wasn't particularly hungry nor were they appealing, were it for the fact that he has a cat that is pretty shy, so I decided to give it a display of pure carnal decadence, leisurly tearing the meat, when I was finished she started purring on my lap I slowly flicked a last piece of warm chicken meat from the bone right in her mouth.. I had shown her there was no need for shyness nor lashing out.. Because I was the apex predator and commander of meat.... We had bonded at that moment I thought it was a small price to pay to earn it's trust and respect, I love cats and always let them come to me first.

A few minutes later Einfachfunk was talking, joking, playing tunes and suddenly looked at me and knew as he put ut he was eating pancakes and I was riding the rollercoaster (I must have looked a bit like the hitchhiker from from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.) cold sweat started pouring and then I made a run for the toilet and what happened was somewhere between puking and demonic exorcism... It felt like puking pieces of hard rubber and bits of evil being purged from my body (perhaps it was all the crap from the weekend before)... His toilet has a pencil drawing of something resembling the sun / sunshine and at that moment it looked like some sick joke...and I felt like a POW or a sort of neophyte trapped in this little sarcastic toilet/dungeon unable to do anything but try and expell the remaining pieces of car tire from my body untill I had finally shown I knew how to be truely "Dirty Brown and Miserable"..

After some lightheaded moments, where Dr.Einfach even checked my pulse etc. (which made me feel in good hands as he has plenty of experience handling emergency admissions of various cases being it substance abuse, psychosis, mania etc. and would have been one of the best to have around in case of trouble) we concluded it was just some sort of purge and there was no real reason for concern. After a little while I felt actually good, cleansed even... (This was the most extreme thing I noticed from laddy and I'm still on the fence with this one perhaps I will try it again and leave out the King of the Jungle chicken eating part..)

After a little breather I decided this night wasn't finished and definately not like this and took out some trusted 4-HO-MET and dosed 19mg and 11mg for him and after a redose of 9mg and another 15mg for him I was having the best trip I've ever had unlike the earlier times where I noticed only some tracers and pulsating colors. The room was sometimes a see of fractal like glittering visuals. His cat sometimes was connected to a purlple long molecule like dynamic lattice of triangular shapes that adjusted its size when it moved. I was lauging in amazement and just saying almost shouting wow... Wow! At times the whole room seemed to morph into almost someting completely different at one time he even looked like a completely different person.

When I went to the toilet I was amazed how friendly and nice it was, then I remembered this was the exact same place I had felt like an incarcerated POW only a few hours before and laughed.
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The contrast beteen the two perhaps the shedding of frustration or funky chicken maybe both of AL-LAD and the super friendly and deeply rewarding visuals and relaxation of 4-HO-MET made for one of the best nights I've had in a long time, as far as 4-HO-MET goes this was the best!

Strangely the 4-HO-MET didn't do much for my friend this time but there will be plenty more occasions..
For now we are looking for the perfect musical door opener, AL-LAD was ok, but will probably also explore the 2C's. (2C-B, 2C-C, 2C-E) Perhaps experience 2C-D's tofu properties...

IME 4-HO-MET is more fun and relaxation than anything productive, but after this I must say it is my favorite psychedelic.
 
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ok! and 225 is what, 2 time as strong as 150?

Easy trozzle! 300 is way more intense than 300 LSD - I could barely see to the other side of the room for the visuals and it's also a lot more confusing than LSD. I'd try 225 for your first shot.



The second one won't have had any effect so you just had 150. I'd go for 225 or so next time. 300 isn't twice as strong as 150, it's about 5 or 6 times as strong.
 
AL-LAD feels pretty linear to me. Each time I add a tab the results are about what I expect. I've gone up to 750 and it's surprisingly manageable. I feel pretty comfortable increasing the dose to 900 next time. I'd still recommend people start low and slowly increase their dosage, but AL-LAD is definitely the most consistently manageable and benevolent psychedelic I've ever used.
 
I had expected it to be way more visual and serious/set and setting dependant like how I remember LSD, as it felt steady, certanly less wavey in intensity than 2C-B even less serious and never had a difficult time on that..

Maybe my memory of LSD isn't very reliable, as we were still kids and none of us had tripped before and they were decent microdots, so we were all pretty impressed..=D Makes me think that perhaps I would be able to apreciate more with a bit of experience... Makes me want to get some acid.

Perhaps I will even give AL-LAD another try (sans food) and have a few extra at hand just in case a higher dose does the trick. For me it wasn't very visual at least nothing that I remember, but I wasn't really paying much attention to that aspect and was looking for small changes, if it were to get visual I figured I would notice. :) At perhaps 200, before eating I felt I could easily feel comfortable on AL-LAD in a club setting or even in public. Because I was in a good mood and definately not tripping hard.
 
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ok! and 225 is what, 2 time as strong as 150?

Something like that murphy. It definately isn't something I'd jump straight into 300 with. I took 300 once and found it massively more overwhelming than 500 mics of acid - not in a pleasant way either. At doses above 200 or so it's not as pleasant as acid either physically or mentally, physically your body temp increases quite unpleasantly - I don't think I've ever felt as hot on a drug in my life - and mentally it's a lot more confused headspace than acid. The visuals were crap too - nothing like as contemplative as acid, it's basically like you're looking at a tv screen that isn't tuned in correctly and they overwhelm your field of vision. At higher doses acid is by far the better drug - more clarity of thinking and physical euphoria.

I tend to just stick to 150-200 these days, certainly never take 300 again.
 
That's just so odd because it's nothing like my experience with the drug. I find the visuals consistently intricate and mathematical, the headspace clear and not confusing, and the effects quite mild at 300. And these effects seem consistent with the three people I've done it with multiple times. It honestly doesn't sound like the same drug, but obviously people react differently to the same chemical.
 
it might be laid inconsistently:

I had a very strong half tab yesterday afternoon,
just 2 days after a weak half tab (cut from a different square).

the high was running strongly from 3:30 pm til 10 pm -
first while working with parallels on a new mac
then going to birthday dinner around the corner for a friend.
In stead of dessert (nobody serves jello any more) I added about 200 mics of nbome which made cev activity over booze and dinner interesting into the wee hours.

A mild hangover is 90% booze and 10% 25i - the Al Lad was a clean lift with a soft landing combining nicely with everything.
 
Mmm going to try different source, think unevenly laid blotters are very likely, will see...
 
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