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The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 2

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I don't understand how other people (aside from me) are not getting immense bodyload from AL-LAD. I find it very noticeable at 300 mcg. It's a much dirtier feeling compound than LSD to me. Tried 150 once and it wasn't too bad but not much trip. Tried 300 twice and both times disgusting bodyload. I really don't see why people prefer this over LSD. I don't see anything better about it other than slightly shorter duration. It would be nice if it WAS kinder and gentler than LSD but it's just the opposite, a lot rougher.
 
It's been a while that I had real lsd to compare it with.
how are you experiencing AL-Lad as Load-ish
during onset I get yawning and restlessness, but I get that with everything
if I recently ate I get some nausea but also that is with everything.

unlike 25i and phens in general, I do not get the following with Al-Lad
+ prolonged digestive acceleration or
+ excessive muscle cramping and
+ writhing type impulses.

I remember lsd the same, - some onset confusion and then orchestral awakening depending on the dosage.
 
If I remember correctly, Jasons problem is serious nausea & stomach problems. Correct me if I'm wrong Jason.

I smoke weed on pretty much every trip I take. Usually, I try to get stoned only once the trip has set in, or if I feel the need to counteract nausea. But I've found Al-Lad easy enough on the system to use whilst already stoned. If a drug of any sort is contraindicated by cannabis use, I tend to pass!

I agree however that Al-Lad can be a very serious, proper psychedelic. Just because it generally produces a comfortable, controllable trip doesn't mean it will do so on every ocasion, in every setting & at every dose! Psychedelics are by their very nature unpredictable & Al-Lad is no exception. I've had 225ug in the park or at home that has been supremely comfortable & relaxing, but a dose of only 150ug at a goth gig was close to fucking terrifying lol
 
jason7 said:
I don't understand how other people (aside from me) are not getting immense bodyload from AL-LAD. I find it very noticeable at 300 mcg. It's a much dirtier feeling compound than LSD to me. Tried 150 once and it wasn't too bad but not much trip. Tried 300 twice and both times disgusting bodyload. I really don't see why people prefer this over LSD. I don't see anything better about it other than slightly shorter duration. It would be nice if it WAS kinder and gentler than LSD but it's just the opposite, a lot rougher.
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At 300, it's minimal for me. But at 450-750, it definitely can get uncomfortable. Not impossible to deal with, but certainly there, mostly at the tail end of the trip. I get nausea, aches, and that "impossible to get comfortable" feeling. The nausea is best managed with weed, the rest with kratom. Or you can just ride it out. It sounds like you're uniquely sensitive to this chemical.
 
Si Ingwe said:
If I remember correctly, Jasons problem is serious nausea & stomach problems. Correct me if I'm wrong Jason.

I smoke weed on pretty much every trip I take. Usually, I try to get stoned only once the trip has set in, or if I feel the need to counteract nausea. But I've found Al-Lad easy enough on the system to use whilst already stoned. If a drug of any sort is contraindicated by cannabis use, I tend to pass!

I agree however that Al-Lad can be a very serious, proper psychedelic. Just because it generally produces a comfortable, controllable trip doesn't mean it will do so on every ocasion, in every setting & at every dose! Psychedelics are by their very nature unpredictable & Al-Lad is no exception. I've had 225ug in the park or at home that has been supremely comfortable & relaxing, but a dose of only 150ug at a goth gig was close to fucking terrifying lol
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I wouldn't want to blame cannabis for the trip turning dark really, more like smoking a lot right on the peak helped bring all this stuff to the surface, i'm used to smoking cannabis but have found smoking on the peak of any psychedelic isn't that enjoyable, probably because its a habit of mine and psychedelics are not very habitual by their nature, after the peak is a very nice time to smoke but sometimes trying to get stoned is pointless because i feel so awake and refreshed it's like it has very little effect and i usually feel no actual need for it, it helps to get some food in me before sleep though

I find almost all bodyload (nausea, head fuzz) can be reduced significantly by not eating before dosing, if you're used to having 3 meals a day it might seem difficult but by the time the trips set in hunger isn't usually an issue
 
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I had the exact same thing of things going "dark" when i mixed cannabis with 110uG LSD, instantly all my senses became overloaded to the point of physical pain, I ran upstairs, heart pounding and scrambled for my etizolam because I felt was if something BAD was about to happen and I would lose my shit forever. Shakingly popped an unknown amount of etizolam in my mouth (like I said, my senses were being overloaded, in retrospect I think it was around 3-6mg), and hopped into my bed eyes closed trying to ride it out. I was having these visions or lucid dreams of friendly LSD and Etizolam chilling on a bench as if they were people and then evil Cannabis coming in and kicks them both in the face. After around 10 minutes I fell asleep for 5 hours and woke up in a daze, happy that the weed had left my brain and being back to just coming down on LSD + Etiz.

I've tripped on LSD 5 times prior without weed and it was so positive and divine, who knows maybe I got AL-LAD because my trips only lasted like 6-8 hours max, granted I only take 100ug therapeutic doses.
 
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ok, al lad received!
now, do you guys consider that al lad is great if you redose?
I want to try 150 ug then after 1 hour 30, maybe take another blotter or half. can you redose effectively al lad?
 
coming in with no tolerance I think you will find that satisfactory if you want it.
 
I've read redosing affects duration but not really strength, but I haven't tried myself. Anyway from what I've experienced, a 150 ug trip is very enjoyable, and you won't have a clear idea of what it's like after just 1H30.

Has anyone here a clue about what al-lad is likely to be replaced by after the ban ? Are there interesting UK legal lysergamides ? Or do you think this kind of stuff will simply disappear from the rc scene?
 
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murphythecat said:
ok, al lad received!
now, do you guys consider that al lad is great if you redose?
I want to try 150 ug then after 1 hour 30, maybe take another blotter or half. can you redose effectively al lad?
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No. Redosing with AL-LAD is a waste of blotters. I feel that 90 minutes will be too long - the window of opportunity is gone by then. Redosing after 90 minutes would be pushing it even with LSD, and AL-LAD has a markedly shorter duration of action.

What worked for me in the past are staggered doses - 300ug + another 300ug in about 15-20 minutes. The idea was to make the take-off less overwhelming. It worked alright.

I've tried re-dosing by adding a blotter after I was underwhelmed with where 150ug took me, but it didn't seem to make an appreciable difference.
 
Anyone tried a BK-2CB/AL-LAD combo?
BK-2CB is, to me, very visual, but majorly lacking in introspection/psychedelia so I do wonder if the Lysergamide can add a new dimension to the experience.
Though I do see the potential for massive bodyload.
 
wow, glad I asked! its my first time with lsd class of compounds, im excited!

ill start with 225 ug.
thanks guys.
 
As others have said 1 blotter is probably enough for a first time, i found it peaked at around 5 hours in and was exponentially stronger upto that point, it suprised me how it built on itself

The people laying the blotters knew what they were doing i think, no real need to be cutting blotters although i may try it myself someday, 1 is a perfect starter dose for someone seriously interested, however i think 225 will be quite nice too

Let us know it goes :)
 
Having said earlier that cutting blotters is unnecessary i am still curious as to what 50ug on Christmas day with the family would be like :)
 
okay, ill take on blotter and a third, so 200 ug for my first time!
thanks and I will report of course!
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As others have said 1 blotter is probably enough for a first time, i found it peaked at around 5 hours in and was exponentially stronger upto that point, it suprised me how it built on itself

The people laying the blotters knew what they were doing i think, no real need to be cutting blotters although i may try it myself someday, 1 is a perfect starter dose for someone seriously interested, however i think 225 will be quite nice too

Let us know it goes :)
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Don't think "It's not so intense" after a couple of hours or so and redose murphy - al-lad has a habit of building and building from the 2 hour mark on.
 
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