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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread

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If I had to convert 5meodalt to freebase, I'd just add sodium hydroxide and some water, then since we don't know the solubility data on 5meodalt, I'd use some heavy aromatic solvent like xylene (which seems to have good solubility values on most alkaloids) as the nonpolar. Then separate the layers, maybe do a few washes with water + sodium carbonate and one with only water, then evaporate the solvent.

Another fun experiment would be to convert 5-meo-dalt into the corresponding n-oxide. I believe this could be done with hydrogen peroxide, but I'm not too clear on the details...
 
sorry ungelesene_bettlek i was indeed talking about 5 meo dalt

still wondering has anyone else had any tolerance issues???

very disappointing that the substance only worked the first time and not on subsequent attempts even without touching it in months!
 
tiddlerz said:
sorry ungelesene_bettlek i was indeed talking about 5 meo dalt

still wondering has anyone else had any tolerance issues???

very disappointing that the substance only worked the first time and not on subsequent attempts even without touching it in months!
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Tryptamines generally do not cause long-term tolerances to develop. Perhaps this substance has some reverse-tolerance qualities similar to salvinorin, requiring multiple experiences to recognize full effects?

Perhaps you're expecting too much from it as well. Trying a new substance for the first time is always thrilling and anticipating. Your first experience may have just been placebo.

I think there may be some oral activity issues with this substance since there are such varied results... perhaps those who get no effect from 5-MeO-DALT are lacking/over-producing some type of enzyme during digestion. This is why I think it's time to explore the 5-MeO-DALT territory via vaporization.

And thanks for the tips, dread. Duly noted, there are better methods that others. But I was just bored one day and used what I had available.
 
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Has anybody try'ed plugging 5-meo-dalt? I thought this might be a good ROA because smoking works pretty good as well.

Would it be verry stupid to try this?
 
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Gaian Planes said:
here's a journal entry I just added, but I thought I would put it here too for completeness sake.

I tripped again tonight and boy oh boy was I glad I decided too :D

I smoked a bit of weed to chill out then spotted some 5-meo-DALT that magically landed in my lap. I decided to sprinkle a bit on top of the mj ashes (probably about 20mg). I sparked up and the 5-meo-DALT looked really cool as it started to vaporize...its pure white stuff and when I applied heat, it turned crystal clear for a second, puddling up, and then dissolved and as I inhaled the pipe went straight into my lungs.

I blew out the first hit, tasting that funny plastic tryptamine taste on my lips. Not as bad as some others, I think because this stuff is so pure. My head got lightheaded and i felt trippy. I danced around a little to some music (evan marc I think) and then sat back down. Hmm, that was it I thought? What a lightweight!

I decided to hit it a couple times harder and deeper. I hit ONCE and blew out a CLOUD of vapor. Oh boy! That did it! I started to get visuals (I thought 5-meo-DALT didn't give people visuals!) and my body started rushing. I babbled something semi-incoherent to the friend I was chatting to and ran over to my bed under the covers. It was getting stronger and stronger. Like that 5-meo-DMT rush. Intense.

My eyes closed involuntarily and nystagmus hit me HARD like 200+ milligrams of MDMA except HARDER. I've never experienced anything so pleasurable as my eyes darted back and forth and my muscles contracted and released spasmodically. Pleasure. Eye orgasm. Body trip. Mmmm tryptamine love <3

ps I think I didn't smoke all of it (there's still some left). I probably took in 15mg of it total (just a guesstimate). Start low with this one though because it definitely had the intense flavor of 5-meo-DMT.
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Heres a report on smoking it by Gaian Planes.

You can go back earlier in this thread to see what else he had to say about the smkoingexperience.=D
 
Yeah i have looked at his posts. I also smoked 20mg 2 times now but i don't have effects close to his. I actually like it better oral then smoked so far.

I would like some more info about plugging this stuff.
 
Took 60mgs orally yesterday. My first experience with it. I have to say I like it, but it wasn't all that great. I didn't get any visuals other than a sort of peripheral vision strobe-like effect.
 
Smoking this stuff is the way to go. Smoked about 10mg tonight, got instant effects. Super awesome bodily feeling, all fuzzy and warm. Got light CEV action, going to try 15mg next time to see if they get stronger. Note: the stuff smells and tastes like burning plastic when smoked; it's horrible.

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Tried smoking three large hits in a row. At high doses this stuff is incredible! Incredible level of body high, mind is in a nice relaxed haze. A +++ with eyes closed.
 
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I just wanted to share some experiences with this stuff, I find it really interesting but am surprised people find this recreational. I like to snort it, it comes on very quick that way and wears off very fast as well - half an hour into the experience, I'm completely baseline, which is unusual for me since I tend to be affected by substances for quite a while even after the primary effects. For me, it's quite similar to DPT especially and has 'that distinct trypt feel' about it. However, compared to DPT, there's much, much less nose irritation (drop tastes bitter, but it doesn't hurt, partly probably due to the small amounts necessary) and much less direct body load (the signature body vibes that DPT gives). However, if one happened to like those, one may miss these when taking 5 meo dalt... It does seem to increase blood flow to peripheral blood vessels. The most significant effects of this substance seem to be the mind effects though, total disconnection from this reality when closing eyes, and even borderline entity contact (wanted to communicate with God, then shirked away when realising that he might tell me things I didn't want to hear lol). (This is highly unusual for me, I'm not the religious type at all). However, no visuals whatsoever, it even seems to eradicate those slight hppd visuals that I tend to have when closing my eyes. So to sum up, this substance seems quite deep in nature - definitely 'psychedelic', but not recreational for me. It seems similar to 'classic' trypts in my experience.
 
I've been experimenting with this compound off and on for the last coupla months. It's certainly interesting.

The first time I took it I bombed an eyeballed amount of between 20-40mg. This went from an almost MD like come up to "if you stare at things they morph and dissolve" territory! This was unexpected and actually got quite overwhelming for a time. Especially as it was accompanied by quite a heavy and not all that nice body load.

I did try and smoke a small amount (15mg ish) and it tasted/smelt horrible and gave me a panicky feeling in my chest which I get with overdoing weed sometimes, so I decided the smoking route not good for me unfortunately.

Next time I did a line or two of about 25mg each over an hour or so. This was more of a speedy high I felt, but still with the distinctly trippy undertone. Objects shimmering and a sense of heightened reality almost. Quite cool, and less bodyload. Insufflation the best way for me I began to think.

Another time still (handy thing about this stuff, is a bag lasts ages lol). Me and some friends mixed it on the night with Methylone. The M1 was bombed and this was snorted. This resulted in a trippy and fun few hours to be sure, a very good combination IME. Especially when we did a few balloons as well.

Speaking of NOS my last time I did some 5-meo-dalt I got the balloons out, and it was a great combo. Definitely like doing NOS on psychelics for those who know what that's like (i.e. *amazing* on shrooms/LSD etc). I wouldn't say this was that good, but deff up there. I did feel very sick for a bit after though which wasn't all that pleasant. Kind of over NOS'd and tripped out a bit with the dalt.

Anyway, to be fair I don't think I'll buy this stuff again. Too expensive for what it is really, and it doesn't compare to shrooms in any way (I know kinda apples an oranges there but still). It's cool to have tried the stuff but I won't be rushing back to get some more ;-)
 
The burn is surprisingly almost non existant, which is slightly stange after insufflating things like mephedrone which burn like a bitch lol.

If anything you get a slightly bitter drip, but weirdly it doesn't sting at all.
 
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