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The Big & Dandy 5-MeO-DALT Thread

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i tasted 50mg of 5-MeO-DALT orally today, perhaps it should be noted that i am on selegiline at 5mg/day. a friend and i both took our doses and went out for a walk in the park, it was the first warm(ish) day of the (almost)spring. i brought along a bottle of juice with 22mg of 4-HO-MiPT disolved in it for us to share if things proved underwhelming. unscientific i know, but i have so little time to trip these days that i am less concerned with accurate evaluations of new chemicals than i am about having a good/therapeutic time. the DALT took effect quickly and was only vaguely uncomfortable. i ran into some old friends on the street and felt awkward exchanging what i felt were slightly passive aggressive pleasantries and then continued towards the park. by the time we reached the park a nonspecific gooey psychedelic feeling had crept over me, not especially visual or verbal or intellectual just psychedelic goopeyness. i became acutely aware of a weird phenomenon that sometimes occurs where everyone i see looks vaguely familiar but i cant put my finger on who exactly it is they are. i sip the 4-HO-MiPT consuming about 5mg and in little time find myself tripping too hard to stand up.

i lay in my friends lap and take a proprandolol because my heart is beginning to race from the unexpected intensity, the clouds are swirling and van gohizing. i cannot speak or articulate my thoughts, its not a matter of verbal fluency because im not even sure what i am thinking, my internal monolog is slushed in the swirls. we stand and i go to watch the sun set with her, i cry tears of joy and find myself reduced to a glowing kernel of human essence and feel the numerous complexities of my life wash away for a brief moment. the orange sun hangs in the air for a ludicrous length of time and i am barely bothered as people walk past me looking at my undisguised tears of confused astonishment. the sun sets and i am terribly cold so my friend and i walk back to my house. i have a new found ability to articulate my experience, although i can barely remember what happened to us over the previous two hours in the park. we have a long conversation w/r/t/ all manner of difficult existential questions. i take some amphetamine as i feel my nice psychedelic sharpness and verbosity draining into sludgy torpor. it is all over in about four hours. i am left with some GI discomfort and pronounced gassyness. i feel obsessive, distracted, disappointed in myself and slightly depressed/motived to change my life as per usual.

interesting chem.
 
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Anything less than 100 mg is missing the true nature of this one in my experience. Between 100 mg and 200 mg the experience has been very nice, lots of chest glow love for humanity feelings, soupy warm headspace, and great body buzz...very sexual feeling ala 5-MeO-DiPT, or 4-HO-DiPT, but better. Insufflation works, but seems to have a delay in the effect manifesting. I found it to be the least interesting roa. Smoking works great 50-100mg, although it tastes pretty bad. I need to spit out each time. The effect is great. However, twice I have had a weird, slightly alarming experience with the material at higher doses. Once while smoking repeated 50 mg doses, and the other time when consuming orally 200 mg and then insufflating 150 mg. On both occasions I became very weak in the knees, quite wobbly feeling, a bit strobey vision, and something very similar to the robowalk from dxm. I was also feeling nearly dissociated from my self at that dosage level, but I did have an amazingly orgasmic chest and body rush, although the overall speediness that accompanied it was a bit difficult to settle into. I wouldn't repeat those higher dosages, but between 100-200 mg is perfect. Very short duration, maybe 2 hours before I was back to being good enough to drive/function in general. It was perfect for attending this wacky bizarrro Animal Collective performance at the Guggenheim the other night. Smoking some green definitely potentiates the effects as well. Have not tried with alcohol.
 
I'd like to get a short-acting light psychedelic. The dilemma: 1g of 5-MeO-DALT or 0.5g of 2C-C. Both of them should be light, but are they comparable in intensity?
And I heared that 5-MeO-DALT have some euphoric and empatogenic properties, how pronounced are they?
 
So this is my first post here, although I've lurked for more than a year now. I ordered some 5-MEO-DALT after reading about it here and it just arrived recently. I've experimented with it a few times now using all the normal ROAs and have found smoking it to be by FAR the best way for me. I've never tried DMT or any other intense psychedelic so I can't compare it to those, but I've had a number of high dose acid and mushroom trips and I have to say smoking this chemical was by far the most intense drug experience of my life.

My first time smoking this stuff I had a dose of about 20mg at most. I just put it on some herb and held the lighter about a half an inch above the small pile of powder. It started to melt a second later and I inhaled all of it in one go. About 10 seconds later I felt it coming on strong, and then about 20 seconds after that my whole body started to shake. My eyes tarted to alternate between rolling back in my head and having extreme nystagmus, and my jaw started shaking up and down - very similar to a wave while on MDMA . My whole body felt as if it was made of liquid and my vision became flooded with fractals. I felt completely insane. I almost freaked out I have to admit. I can usually handle tripping hard pretty well, but this chemical seems to almost have a panicky nature about it, or it could of very well just been because this was my first time doing a drug that was so intense and came on so incredibly fast. Anyway, I fairly easily pushed the panicky feelings away. After the rush (about 2-3 minutes after inhaling) it seemed to level out. I could see again, and everything was trailing and looked shimmery. I felt as if I was on 2 or 3 hits of acid for about 10 minutes afterwards, and then after about 30 minutes I felt just about normal, although i was still pretty shaken up because of the unexpected intensity of what just happened.

The only thing that was a little unnerving was how fast it made my heart beat, and how I became a little short of breath during the experience. Until about 15 minutes after inhaling my heart was beating at 120-130 BMP and beating hard. Also it was like I couldn't pull enough air into my lungs for about the whole 2-3 minute long peak. I'm assuming this is just because it is a 5-MEO chemical, right? I think I remember reading they cause heart and breathing issues more so than other tryptamines. These side effects weren't that at all bad though, I just figured I would mention them. Anyway I found this chemical to be extremely interesting and I plan on experimenting with it much more in the future. ;) It's pretty crazy how it seemed like such a flop at first. Smoking is definitely the way to go.

Id like to mention too that snorting it and taking it orally produced nothing more than a slight shimmering and a general feeling of being buzzed on something. Nothing even close to the effects i got when i smoked it.
 
the only downside is that smoking it tastes just fowl...and makes you have a ton sudden saliva that you need to spit out.

What dose did you try taking it orally at?
 
For some reason I don't mind the taste. Almost fruity in a weird way.

I've done it seven times total. I took 40 and 60 milligrams orally, and 30, 35 and 40 snorted( although the 30mg time I was also on methyone. it added a kind of mental sloppyness. Other two times were at 20 and 15 milligrams smoked. Like I said, the snorted and oral experiences at that dose range were nothing compared to the smoked. It felt like a completely different drug when smoked.
 
Yeah I smoked up to 100 mg so far, not sure smoking that much at once was really feasible. Seemed like a lot of it got condensed onto the inside of the pipe. The pipe tastes like it for days. 50 mg hits seem to do ok, but the taste lingers then as well.

The effect is great though. I preferred a 100-110 mg oral experience in public the most so far though. It rivaled some of the best times I have taken mdma and gone to a show in the past. I think what's great about this one, is that it has several ROAs, each seeming to bring out a slightly different aspect of the chemical. Much more interesting chemical than most people thought to say the least!

And yes it taste kinda fruity (smells that way too), but the taste is more like fruity bat shit lol
 
So my goldfish sampled today about 200mg of a compound, 5-meo-DALT, throughout the day in total..
He has eatten 85mg and snorted 15mg and smoked the rest and has found it to be similar to MDMA mixed with LSD-type feeling... Very odd smell and taste, like BO it smells and tastes.. but after getting over that I am a warm, glowing, fuzzy feeling pleasant like hella laid back, very glowing colours in my visual space, music sounds beautiful and intense and am finding that i am very empathetic at this point.. Also have extreme munchies, but cant move; I also smoked weed with this throughout the day and jwh-018.. So, maybe before I leave to go pick up some more tobacco ill eat.. sounds like a good idea.. off i go..

Be safe guys... at first the high is intense and rockets, but then just gets dopey and smacky like feeling :D
 
Okay, so i took roughly 500mg in the past 24-48 hours at least in combo with about 80mg altogether of hydrocodone and 4mg xanax and have slept all of it except to wake up take more pills and smoke this stuff.. kind of addictive when mixed with benzos.. plus mixing it with jwh makes for a good, calm, trippy, weed high if infused in some tobacco and smoked in my bowl ^_^

PS i wish too bad someone doesnt have any more adderall to mix with it lol :( only 5mg left.. doctors appt today.. wonder what my vitals will be.. haa
 
CatfishRivers said:
Anything less than 100 mg is missing the true nature of this one in my experience. Between 100 mg and 200 mg the experience has been very nice, lots of chest glow love for humanity feelings, soupy warm headspace, and great body buzz...very sexual feeling ala 5-MeO-DiPT, or 4-HO-DiPT, but better. Insufflation works, but seems to have a delay in the effect manifesting. I found it to be the least interesting roa. Smoking works great 50-100mg, although it tastes pretty bad. I need to spit out each time. The effect is great. However, twice I have had a weird, slightly alarming experience with the material at higher doses. Once while smoking repeated 50 mg doses, and the other time when consuming orally 200 mg and then insufflating 150 mg. On both occasions I became very weak in the knees, quite wobbly feeling, a bit strobey vision, and something very similar to the robowalk from dxm. I was also feeling nearly dissociated from my self at that dosage level, but I did have an amazingly orgasmic chest and body rush, although the overall speediness that accompanied it was a bit difficult to settle into. I wouldn't repeat those higher dosages, but between 100-200 mg is perfect. Very short duration, maybe 2 hours before I was back to being good enough to drive/function in general. It was perfect for attending this wacky bizarrro Animal Collective performance at the Guggenheim the other night. Smoking some green definitely potentiates the effects as well. Have not tried with alcohol.
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and yet 200mg oral on an empty stomach early in the morning followed by a smoked dosage of at least 100-150 mg yielded jack shit for me. Psychedelic Tapeworm strikes again!

-the_oatster
 
I'd like to start some experiments with 5-meo-dalt today.
Would it be a problem to combine it with Pseudo-Ephedrine HCL (which is my medical on a daily basis for an awful hayfever...).
 
5-meo-dalt seems like a interesting and potentially under-rated compound. I wonder if the underwhelming experiences people have been having with oral dosages of this compound are due to not taking and MAO-I with it, as would be necessary when consuming 5-meo-dmt.
An interesting experiment could be to make Dalthausca: Consume a tea made from 1g of syrian rue(to ensure oral activity), followed by 40mg of 5-meo-dalt (the borderline orally active dose without an MAO-I, it seems) dissolved in olive oil or some other fat.
 
supra79 said:
I'd like to start some experiments with 5-meo-dalt today.
Would it be a problem to combine it with Pseudo-Ephedrine HCL (which is my medical on a daily basis for an awful hayfever...).
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shouldnt cause any problems if ur using it as presribed on the box

venzen said:
5-meo-dalt seems like a interesting and potentially under-rated compound. I wonder if the underwhelming experiences people have been having with oral dosages of this compound are due to not taking and MAO-I with it, as would be necessary when consuming 5-meo-dmt.
An interesting experiment could be to make Dalthausca: Consume a tea made from 1g of syrian rue(to ensure oral activity), followed by 40mg of 5-meo-dalt (the borderline orally active dose without an MAO-I, it seems) dissolved in olive oil or some other fat.
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i would use less then 40mg if combinign with an MAOi for the first time for safeties sake.

It does seem like there is more too this chem then has been reported from oral trips.

smoked reports all sound great.
 
venzen said:
5-meo-dalt seems like a interesting and potentially under-rated compound. I wonder if the underwhelming experiences people have been having with oral dosages of this compound are due to not taking and MAO-I with it, as would be necessary when consuming 5-meo-dmt.
An interesting experiment could be to make Dalthausca: Consume a tea made from 1g of syrian rue(to ensure oral activity), followed by 40mg of 5-meo-dalt (the borderline orally active dose without an MAO-I, it seems) dissolved in olive oil or some other fat.
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I'm pretty sure 5-Meo-DMT is orally active, you just have to take a bunch. Also, its entirely possible people are simply under-dosing instead of not using a potentially dangerous combination to potentiate 5-Meo-DALT
 
any major dude said:
I'm pretty sure 5-Meo-DMT is orally active, you just have to take a bunch. Also, its entirely possible people are simply under-dosing instead of not using a potentially dangerous combination to potentiate 5-Meo-DALT
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It does seem that people are simply under-dosing by a huge degree, but it seems strange that an effective oral dose is at least 10x the smoked dose. Will probably lower the starting dose of 5-meo-dalt (per the recommendation of Delsyd) to 15mg with the MAO-I and bump up the 5-meo-dalt dose from there if it is ineffective (which I suspect it will be). Will report back, hopefully :)
 
about 20mg orally was quite nice actually. It's definitely a tool that requires you to do some pumping up, and seems like it would be awesome at a concert or a club or something. Meditating produced some interesting visualizations. Weed definitely helps out. It the body energy was very nice, moving and dancing came much easier. I worked out a lottt of kinks in my body and in my life. Quite trippy, with a lot of empathy and increased visuals. Quite an amazing compound. Definite benefits.

I felt like I burped out of my intestine at one point though. And i had a massive headache on the comedown but it was definitely all the beasters.
 
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