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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-HO-DiPT Thread

Here is the best recollection I can give you of the events of Friday night, my first experience with 4-HO-DiPT. This was a very intense experience, and would have been mystical if things had turned out differently. So the plan was to take 20-22mg of the iprocin a piece and then do bumps of ketamine through the night. My friend has tried it a couple times prior, minus the K that is. We expected a strong but relatively casual trip for the night.

*Side note stuff*

Ok, we all love psychedelics so we all know about how weird coincidences and synchronicities. So a couple weird things happen that lead up to this. My buddy, who sells pot, and thats all he does. Someone breaks into his house to jack his safe expecting to get oh probably a pound or so of pot and maybe some money.. Instead, they come at the perfect and worst timing, when the safe is empty of pot, but just happens to have 130 pills of ecstasy we just 'threw' in there real quick because we had to leave.. This is right after getting the 130, had them in possession for like 2 hours. Nobody knew about them, they just coincidentally stole the safe expecting pot, but got a bunch of pills instead.. So then the next day, someone I don't know, but a I guess you would say AFOAF, gets robbed at gunpoint for $6000 worth of coke by some Pakistanis or something.. -- All of this is just really coincidental, and not connected..


** Trip part (but the stuff above is kind of relevant) **

T+00:00:00 I ingest 22mg iprocin in a little gatorade. OF consumes 20mg at roughly the same time. Both of us notice instant placebo and can tell that 'something' is different.

T+00:10:00 We are feeling a little something, my body feels great, like being stoned. I pack up a pretty fat bowl and we go outside. Smoke it over the next 10 minutes.

T+00:25:00 We are coming up pretty nicely at this point, I feel great. Since we had planned to do some K during the night, we decide to just get started. I go for about 45mg of the S-isomer. OF does roughly the same amount.

We start the movie "Howl's Moving Castle" and I begin to zone completely. I've never felt ANYTHING like this, wow it's amazing. We wait just a few more minutes, giddy and laughing because it just feels so great.

T+00:40:00 I feel the full effects of the bump of K, I have some nasty drip that causes a pretty quick *whap* vomit that makes me feel a little queasy for a few minutes. After my stomach calms I decide to snort the rest of my 100mg of K I set out, so 55mg.

After this, things get a little hazy. I must say, at this point, before it goes sour. I feel amazing, I'm watching this movie, and it's so real.. The dissociative properties of the K mixed with the strong psychedelic effects of the iprocin...wow. I feel what I'm watching is whats real, and the stuff around the box of 'reality' is all the hallucinations. It's pretty dark, and I say let's turn on the light.

Then.. My buddy just snaps, and goes "oh my god I fucked up". Not sure in what order these thoughts occurred, nor does it matter. But the next 2 hours went something like this:

One minute, I'm one of the Pakistani's that robbed the guy for coke, and I'm just setting him up to rob his house of everything. I'm trying to signal them by turning on the light. Then I'm DEA trying to bust him. Or me and his GF are actually dating, and its all just a scheme to set him up.. He kept saying it's 'acting out like a play' or something like that. He was crazy and mumbling so hard to say really.

He freaks out and runs up stairs..not sure how, the K should have had him pretty stumbly.. and turns off all the lights. We spend the next 2 hours sitting in the dark, him mumbling shit about me being DEA, then his girlfriend was DEA also, and then we were in on it together.. Then I was his brother and his GF was his sister, and we were a 'fake' family, just to set him up to go to prison for using psychedelics..

After it had been about 2 hours after consuming he was starting to realize he was just tripping and freaking out. He asked for a xanax, I had 12x 2mg capsules weighed out. Gave him one, he PRETENDS to eat it and throws it away. Remember, I can't see, its total darkness still.. He's still a little uneasy, but he comes down enough to realize i'm not trying to feed him poison. We both eat 2mg xanax each. We talk about the nighs events/realizations, eat a little more xanax. -- This is where my memory stops -- We smoke some more pot, eat a little more xanx. Then I wake up extremely late the next day.


** End of trip **

On a lighter note, for you adventurous psychonaughts, 4-HO-DiPT + Ketamine is a godly combination. I plan to try it again and under better circumstances..
 
thugg said:
*Side note stuff*

Ok, we all love psychedelics so we all know about how weird coincidences and synchronicities. So a couple weird things happen that lead up to this. My buddy, who sells pot, and thats all he does. Someone breaks into his house to jack his safe expecting to get oh probably a pound or so of pot and maybe some money.. Instead, they come at the perfect and worst timing, when the safe is empty of pot, but just happens to have 130 pills of ecstasy we just 'threw' in there real quick because we had to leave.. This is right after getting the 130, had them in possession for like 2 hours. Nobody knew about them, they just coincidentally stole the safe expecting pot, but got a bunch of pills instead.. So then the next day, someone I don't know, but a I guess you would say AFOAF, gets robbed at gunpoint for $6000 worth of coke by some Pakistanis or something.. -- All of this is just really coincidental, and not connected..

I just wanted to point out, so people don't reply with certain comments.. No body planned to steal the 130 pills, that was just coincidence, some douchebag was trying to steal prob what he thought was going to be a pound or so of pot. It wasn't staged or anything, this is my best friend, well 1 of my only 2 best friends so I know I can trust him. They were his anyway that got jacked, so he has no reason to lie.. Anyway, the other kid, the one that got robbed for the coke. I don't know him at all, I just heard the story because I know someone that knows someone that knows him or whatever, you get the point. Anyway. all the stuff just lined up into a perfect coincidence and I can see why my friend thought what he did.

But I just wanted to state that I don't hang out with hardcore drug dealers and shit, the pills we just happened to have because like we order RCs off the net, I get my pills off the net and just get enough to keep for myself or a LONG time. Since they are so cheap, hence why we had 130, for 2 hours at least.

I guess I just wanted to say that a bunch of bad shit happened for no apparent reason, not that we are weird shady/untrustworthy people that people would try and rob or steal from.. But LOL, I guess I probably don't have the best handle/nick when I say something like that, but lol, oh well. I guess someone was just an opportunist on the safe, it was most likely this kid that doesn't like us. He was just trying to steal the safe full of pot.. God damn that fucker, hopefully nobody gets sick off those pills or something because they're stupid and dont know what they're doing.
 
I know that everyone reacts differently to substances but what would really be the pros and cons of 4-HO-DiPT ?
How soluble is it in EtOH or dH2O?
I don't really like the crazy feeling of mushrooms but I do love acid. I think its great this substance doesnt last that long but can you easily have mindblowing experiences on it that arent as difficult as mushrooms???
 
^^ try pushing it up to 40 or more mg. the hcl is a fair bit weightier than the freebase. this stuff can be boring if you underdose.

it's pretty soluble in ethanol and solns of ethanol and h2o, both the salt and the freebase, the salt is more easily dissolved in water but it can still be a pain
 
I acquired iprocin (4-ho-dipt) lately. I think I understand what Shulgin meant when he says the experience lasts about 3 hours after ingestion. I tried it at 2, 8, 13, 17, 25 and 30 mg. It was mostly inactive under 10 mg, interesting from 13 to 20 mg... really interesting at 25 mg and mind-blowing, very euphoric and visually breathtaking at 30 mg. For about three hours, I just felt amazing and lost in thoughts that I can't grab anymore. After three hours, I feel I am coming down and it gets boring annoying after an hour or two. And I have a lot of trouble getting decent sleep even when I dose in the morning... also I tried mixing it with 4.5 mg hydergine (again at 30 mg) and I dunno but it was very strong. The visuals were seemed a lot more intense, they were Third Eye everywhere ... just my two cents, gotta go back to chemistry class.
 
When I did 30 mg iprocin, it was deep and quite visual and introspective, and it seemed like I needed to go a little farther to enter another dimension, for the world to reveals itself. Last night, I took 40 mg with a nootropics regimen (1200 mg piracetam, 4.5 mg hydergine, 250 mg centrophenoxine). Visually it got so deep I would enter another dimension and everything was made of gigantic entities creatures-like. I felt watched, the world felt so alive. It was beyond the patterns. I kept entering this visionary state in waves. Each time I was so amaze. I felt so happy, so content about everything. Now it's hard to remember what happened, it's like I all forgot. I just know it was the most beautiful thing. I feel like I want extremely deep this time, between +3 and +4. This stuff is amazing! I feel so refresh now. I didn't read anything concerning entities in iprocin reports. I don't think I would want to go deeper... maybe just a little bit. Best stuff I have done in a while... life is good :)
 
I've had both substances and they're both extremely similar. 4-Acetoxy is much smoother and longer lasting.

I've tried 18-22 and 30 mg, respectively.
 
The two are nothing alike. Polar opposites in the way 5-MeO-DMT and DMT are different. I cannot put the differences into words, but iprocin seems quite unique compared to the other 4-substituted tryptamines.
 
morninggloryseed said:
The two are nothing alike. Polar opposites in the way 5-MeO-DMT and DMT are different. I cannot put the differences into words, but iprocin seems quite unique compared to the other 4-substituted tryptamines.
The 5-meo-dmt vs DMT thing helps a bit. Thanks.
 
I am soon getting this (like tomorrow :D) and have been reading. 15-20mgs seems to be a fairly good dose for first times, it will be me a friend who has tripped once and one who hasn't tripped in 6~ years.
 
First Time 4-Acetoxy-DiPT

Planning on taking 4-acetoxy-dipt this friday, searching threads has not got me the information I was looking for---alot of 4-HO-DiPT---so I was just wondering about recommended doses, 20 mg? 30 mg?

And please, only comment if you've actually done 4-ace-dipt, no 4-HO-dipt comments here. Thank you.
 
IME it differs a lot from person to person. I think you should start out by taking 15 mg. orally. Perhaps you'll barely feel anything, but for some people this is enough. I now a guy who has to do around 50 mg. nasally to achieve full effects, however this is a HUGE dose for me and most others. My sweet spot is around 30 mg. orally, but as I said, start out by taking 10-15 mg. You can't be too careful :)
 
Hmm, just from searching the threads I was thinking 30 mg oral, but you suggest 10-15 mg...I'll take in the suggestion and think it through...
 
I have and I loved it. Very intense at ~22mg. Lots of residual speediness at the end. If you've very familiar with psychedelics 30mg ought to be alright. If you're not completely sure of your footing in that space then I would suggest starting at somewhere closer to 20mg. (Let me add that I am NOT a hard head.)
 
...took 26 mg last night orally in a gel cap, very mild experience for me, definitely going up to 30 mg next time with this material.
 
Merged in a very interesting topic involving 4-AcO-DiPT. Don't fear that your topic will be lost because this thread doesn't get many hits. :)

And I also just realized that I need to go through and separate this into 2 threads, one for each substance. 4-HO-DiPT and 4-AcO-DiPT are not, after all, the same.
 
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