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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-AcO-DMT Thread - Act Five

Xorkoth said:
^^ Absolutely, 4-AcO-DMT is very like DMT for me, much moreso than 4-HO-DMT is or mushrooms are.
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Totally agree as well. I combo’d this At the weekend, 20mg 4-AcO-MET and 25mg 4-AcO-DMT and had a very nice DMT like experience, visual very similar but as someone has mentioned before here slower.

Had faint entity contact and saw a little of Hyperspace when I focussed on it, got this idea in my head that I should be able to break through on this combo. Not sure where it came from but I found myself willing it mentally. Saw those spinning geometric 3D, 4D shapes which I call the gears of the universe.

I love this combo for euphoria, really nice. Also my recent DMT adventures had left me with very brief episodes of anxiety and the combo above has cured that.

Feel awesome and reset this week.

going to have a little break now and integrate these amazing experiences.
 
This one is like DMT to me, but not completely overwhelming and immersive (well... maybe... but not quite DMT), I can still think on it at least some of the time... I like to keep my eyes open at least half the time haha. DMT I cannot do that. This one still lays me out though, I prefer to lay down for heavier trips on it. It reminds me of nothing whatsoever like shrooms, but reminiscent (still very different) of DMT. I like DMT way more haha but this stuff is nice too... I like to rail it (very lightly... it is like chalk, with no burn, but hits in 10 min... nice harsh comeup that way).
 
Oh my dear lord this is by far my favorite psychadelic. Took a 35mg dose and on the comedown it feels like my body has been through the ringer. I am completely exhausted. Wow
 
It's absolute gold, I adore the stuff. It just seems to be the perfect combination of sedation and alertness. I have had some really fun nights with low doses going to gigs and stuff. Makes me pretty sociable and makes me dance like a nutter which is always good.

The fumerate seems pretty stable. Had some in a cupboard for a few years and had a dose in my wallet for a month or so with not much drop in potency.
 
50mg oral

The last few times I've taken this, I've been visited by a gnome, of my own interpretation.

I reach out for psilacetin when I've been having trouble sleeping. I figure the way it rebalances my energy is more beneficial than tossing and turning for a few hours, then maybe catching a few hours of undisturbed sleep.

The gnome comes during the first hour, when I start to feel the effects of the drug. I'll be lying down with my eyes closed. Then I'll see a light, this time it had a bit of a golden hue. It's also humming a tune or something like that.

I'll feel it attach to me in the front of my body, then work it's way up and down several times. I can feel a vibration of energy as it's moving around. This lasted for not more than a minute, before it felt like it was pulled back by some ethereal tether. The light vanished, as well as the tune.

I get the impression that it comes to do a job, then leaves when the job is finished.

When it departed, my dog who was sleeping near me, seemed to be startled by something. I don't know if it felt it, or saw it, and maybe even scared it away.

There also seemed to be some commotion with the electrical system in my house when it left. There was so much going on in that moment, that it was hard to pay attention to what that was about to really go into any further detail. It may have just been a coincidence.

I wish that I could experience things like this without the drugs.
 
For me, I find that the effects are very consistent:
OEVs are subtle but cool, especially when looking at things like leg hair or fabric or stucco, which appear more patterned and shifty.
CEVs can be controlled with some effort at lower doses but at the peak of most trips have been completely beyond me. Sometimes they are the multicolored 2D or 3D shapes of psychedelia but it's even more frequently the case that they're constructed from memories of iconic things such as cartoon characters or well-known people's faces.
Body feel is pleasantly warm and a bit tingly when staying perfectly still, but I sometimes get chilly and antsy on the come-up.
Libido increases, but orgasms are suppressed quite a bit. Luckily, it often causes sexual stimulation to be satisfying even without orgasm.
Anxiety is common during the come-up, balanced out nicely by an anti-depressant effect which extends for hours after the trip is over. Thought-loops are frequent throughout. Philosophical thinking is frequent and easier.
At the peak of some intense (50 mg) trips, both good and bad, I have lost bladder control. Since then, I try to spend peaks in the shower (which is a nice place to be while tripping).
Some time midway through the come-up, I will notice a faint violin-like noise in the far distance. This is variously either without a source, or "constructed" from other ambient sounds like AC or plumbing. It lasts for hours after the other effects of the trip, much like the anti-depressant effect. It gives the impression of a "cinematic score", which fits well with the impression that my trip is a scene in a film.
I am super talkative on this stuff! It's fun to describe everything that's happening, everything I'm thinking... it makes me look pretty unhinged.
 
This is a great drug, it shines in all dosages.

Great & easy for microdosing (2-3 mg), I also loving taking 5-10 mg for hanging out with friends or even a party, it makes me very sociable and makes for excellent and funny conversations.
From about 15mg you enter tripping territory, it reminds of quite a lot of mushrooms, but still noticeably different. I've gone up to 50 mg a couple of times which for me never was as intense as I've seen/heard other people have, but still an amazing time.

I saw someone say this one has a sinister vibe, which I don't find is the case. 4-Aco-DMT makes you face your problems right on though, so be prepared :).
But apart from that it has a very natural, clear, emotional and euphoric feel to it.

When I find the time I'm going to combine this with my last LSD tabs =D
 
Anyone have a good time mixing this with Syrian rue? My regular 4-ACO-DMT dose is 40-75mg, usually split into two doses on the higher end. I took about 3.5grams syrian rue and 30 mg of 4-ACO-DMT.

I tried the same with about 40 mg of MET with little effect. I'm not sure if I have a freebase or a salt. Havent heard from the vendor. Has anyone tried this?

I am a 170lb male with a moderate and manageable tolerance to psychedelics.
 
Got an email from the one of the places that sells the tryptamines that the people who make the tryptamines make... they said 4-AcO-DMT will not be made again. My guess would be concern over such a close analogue of psilocin. I actually have long been surprised that 4-AcO-DMT hasn't been banned everywhere. Anyway, sad news. I suppose it could still be made by others but my guess is that most of these tryptamines are ultimately coming from one source, now that China banned most of that stuff.
 
Had a feeling this was going to happen eventually and it's really sad thing to see. That's one of the staples in the RC Scene and it's been around forever as you mentioned. But like you said where there's a will there is a way. I'm sure that it will be synthed again due to its popularity much like 2C-E has been despite its illegality in most locals.

But yeah concerning the comments surrounding it lately id suggest stocking up cheaply while you can. Keep the stuff on Ice and don't use it to often. There is alot of Psychedelics from my youth id like to acquire again but it's become quite difficult, not letting that happen to one of my favorites. This is some really sad stuff to hear Xorky.
 
Xorkoth said:
Got an email from the one of the places that sells the tryptamines that the people who make the tryptamines make... they said 4-AcO-DMT will not be made again. My guess would be concern over such a close analogue of psilocin. I actually have long been surprised that 4-AcO-DMT hasn't been banned everywhere. Anyway, sad news. I suppose it could still be made by others but my guess is that most of these tryptamines are ultimately coming from one source, now that China banned most of that stuff.
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I posted about this a few weeks ago. Everyone kind of sluffed me off like. "Ya right. It will still be available"

4 Pro DMT got the axe as well I believe. One vendor up here even raised the price per gram of 4 aco dmt by 50% of their old price.

I find I get the same effects from 4 ho met anyways. I just have to dose high enough
 
Man, I've been trying to get the guts to order this stuff for YEARS now!

Honestly (and I am NOT asking for sources) the biggest reasons I haven't done it yet have mainly just to do with the fact that I don't know how to use Bitcoin or the deep web and it seems like mostly RCs like this are not sold on the clear net and it seems like it would be hard to learn how to use Bitcoin and the deep web and I'd rather just be able to quickly order this stuff easily with a credit card and not have to figure out all sorts of crap and jump through hoops to figure out how to get it.

I wonder if maybe I think it's harder to learn that stuff than it is, or maybe it is in fact available on the clear net, but again, I'm not asking anyone to tell me.

I guess I'm just venting.

I hope I can eventually get myself to just spend the time and figure out how to place an order for this stuff and figure out what all the fuss is about as it sounds like a good psychedelic, especially since it is supposed to be similar to shrooms and I love shrooms but can never find them.

Edit, although now I guess you guys are saying this stuff is hard to get suddenly.

I just need to get a new place where I can get a set up to grow my own shrooms and then have a whole bunch to enjoy myself with.
 
Even clearnet vendors use bitcoin only now, it's been that way a while. But I'll just say I have a collection of about 60 psychedelic RCs and have never used the dark web.

Bitcoin is not hard to do, but it just takes sitting down and learning. It's not intuitive, but once you know what to do, it's just following steps.

I find 4-AcO-DMT to feel like a slow release smoked DMT experience during the come-up/peak, and then it switches gears to be almost exactly like mushrooms for the plateau. They're definitely different for me, some people find them indistinguishable.
 
Mycophile said:
Man, I've been trying to get the guts to order this stuff for YEARS now!

Honestly (and I am NOT asking for sources) the biggest reasons I haven't done it yet have mainly just to do with the fact that I don't know how to use Bitcoin or the deep web and it seems like mostly RCs like this are not sold on the clear net and it seems like it would be hard to learn how to use Bitcoin and the deep web and I'd rather just be able to quickly order this stuff easily with a credit card and not have to figure out all sorts of crap and jump through hoops to figure out how to get it.

I wonder if maybe I think it's harder to learn that stuff than it is, or maybe it is in fact available on the clear net, but again, I'm not asking anyone to tell me.

I guess I'm just venting.

I hope I can eventually get myself to just spend the time and figure out how to place an order for this stuff and figure out what all the fuss is about as it sounds like a good psychedelic, especially since it is supposed to be similar to shrooms and I love shrooms but can never find them.

Edit, although now I guess you guys are saying this stuff is hard to get suddenly.

I just need to get a new place where I can get a set up to grow my own shrooms and then have a whole bunch to enjoy myself with.
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The global producer of the (sort of legal) lysergamides in Holland has just announced it has added 4-Aco-Dmt to it's catalogue.

So it may now appear a little more widely, lots of Dutch vendors will stock it I expect. One in particular, I got some 4-Ho-Mipt from them a few months ago via bank transfer, so I'm hoping they will grab some from the Reptiles.

But yes I'm with you on the bitcoin. I know it is pretty straight forward but it's still buggles and intimidates me, large sheep though because my brain function is so heavily compromised as a result of illness and injury. Just getting my head around really basic practical things is often too much for me.

I dont even have any ID. Fortunately I have been able to acquire all of my recent lysergamide purchases from Germany paying by bank transfer. This is still an option for me so for the meantime there is no urgent need to become bitcoin competent.

It is a fear I would like to face and overcome though, to at least have that option.


Edit- ok I just checked because I was a little uncertain that I had gotten that exactly right and it appears I may have gotten modelled one late stay and evening recently.

The Reptiles didn't actually announce anything regarding 4-aco DMT. I did receive a newsletter email from them recently regarding new products.

And then when I was looking on their website I I saw 4-aco DMT included in the products they offer.

I just checked through their catalogue now and I could not see 4-aco DMT anywhere but I could have sworn I did see it in there recently to see what prices they pass it on for but I could have imagined this.
 
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WHAT THE FUCK !!??

Just had my second +4 experience on that compound taken rectally. There is something about this ROA with this drug. It feels like a completely different drug when taken this way. It brings me to that " place ", a very dark but very beautiful place, so beautiful it brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it. I have never smoked DMT but from what I read this seems to be a similar experience but stretched over an hour instead of a few minutes.

The pharmacology of this drug is very puzzling because I only get this type of effect with the rectal route. Even other routes that bypass first pass metabolism like nasal or even subcutaneous injection do not get me " there ". Maybe I.V. does but I am not sure I am ready for that just yet.

Anyway, this is a truly amazing drug. To attain such levels of psychedelia, depth and ego dissolution with so little anxiety or body load is truly remarquable. The +4 experience has never been so in reach. The dosage for this experience was 30-35 mg.
 
Would you even think of suggesting this to someone who really dislikes the feeling of downers (opiates, weed, alcohol) and someone that really struggles to get through a couple much lighter tryptamine come-ups do to the stoning qualities of them?

It sounds great, but I just don't think I would like the stoning qualities that this possesses. Obviously, some people feel no load, but lots of people say it's the heaviest there is.
 
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