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The Big & Dandy 2C-E thread (Reorganized)

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What 2c's are more powerful?

2ce seems one of the most powerful ones from what I've read. I've done 2cb once and it was extremely weak. I've done 2ci a number of times and love it, but I wouldn't consider it overly strong (although it can be). Only other real popular 2c's I know of are 2ct7, 2ct2.
 
2c-t-7

blows it out of the water in my opinion

A 50 mg oral dose is almost as visually intense as DMT or high dose LSD

2c-e gives me a body buzz and slight visuals even at 50 mg dose's

It's a nice drug but not the most powerful
 
^Wow, are you sure of the quality of your 2C-E? 50 mg is a monster dose. Most people consider 20 mg to be a high dose.
 
After reading through this thread a bit (i'm gradually getting through it), it seems people mainly don't do any combinations.

What about mdma? Seems like that would give a more positive push to what you guys describe as an overall neutral experience.
 
Cosmic Charlie said:
I take it as a parachute and have no problems.

To 2c-e is mild in my opinion , there's other much more powerful 2c's

I still L<3Ve it Though

I never experience a body load
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Well for people who don't use a load of psychedelics, 2C-E can be quite intensely powerful. ;) Back in the day, 18mg gave me my most powerful trip of all time... I was more terrified than I've ever been before, waking up into godhood and then the void.

It also highly depends on your setting. I find if I take 2C-E in familiar settings I can pretty much know exactly what to expect... it can be quite recreational and mild. But throw in some new or unexpected situations and it shows any number of different sides.

2C-T-7 is good too, but not anywhere near as intensely psychedelic, in my experience (though it's more visual).
 
Although I know it's a little dangerous, I've always wanted to see if 2C-E and 2C-T-2 had any special synergy, 2C-D is another obvious candidate. You'd start low with something like that, obviously... But I'd really want to see what it's like, if it turns out to be safe at all... Hehe
 
Prea said:
What about mdma? Seems like that would give a more positive push to what you guys describe as an overall neutral experience.
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its exactly this neutrality which makes 2c-e stand out for me, and makes it so useful philosophically speaking. i love it for its brutal honesty.
I don't think mdma with go well with it qualitativly. i haven't tried it, but i would expect it to throw mdma's 'immediate dishonesty' right back in your face.
don't get me wrong; mdma is useful in its procuring of a positive space for psychotherapy, and as such can shed a new light on one's rusty problems. but it won't fix anything during the extatic state, the real work has to come afterwards.
2c-e' mindspace on the other hand does permit (cough) to get real work done during the experience itself because of this honesty. its neutrality does not mean it can't be a positive experience, but it will require you to do/learn something to earn it. there is no such thing as a free lunch.
the combination seems rather counterproductive at best.
 
Just had to stop by and proclaim my love for 2C-E. It really does wonders for analytical thinking and problem-solving. A couple nights ago on 15 mg I was able to visualize with ease parts of the processes of learning and logical thinking in the human mind, which should lead to improvements in the artificial intelligence software I've been programming (on and off for about a year).


Plus I had this totally awesome experience, too: around four hours in I was growing weary, so I laid down on my bed and closed my eyes. Of course, the 2C-E didn't allow me to sleep, but it did something rather wonderful instead. My mind and body greatly rewarded me for heeding its pleas for rest, and I was flooded with an intense euphoria. There had been an element of discomfort in my consciousness before I laid down, but once I did, my comfort was complete. It was incredible.

The longer my eyes were closed, the further I drifted into a strange state which was an amalgam of a psychedelic meditative state and sleep consciousness. The visual imagery and aural hallucinations were very vivid. Also, my joy was perceived to have an infectious nature, as if anybody that walked into my room would be gifted with it as well.
 
TheAppleCore said:
^ Strange that you mention it... last night I dosed 2C-E for the second time, a milligram more than my first; and I expected to trip perceptibly harder, considering 2C-E's supposedly steep dose-response curve. The trip had its nice moments, however it was a lot less profound overall than my first trip.

Admittedly I just dosed because the opportunity presented itself. I wasn't in the greatest frame of mind, I was short on sleep, and I had a bit of a headache.
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when was the first time you tripped? meaning, close enough to have a tolerance? and it's good that you increase slowly, but you can probably add 2 mg 2ce at a time, instead of 1


i saw some people talking about opening the capsule and drinking the powder in water. that it how i've taken 2ce each time. i pour the powder in a cup, add a little bit (~3 or 4 ounces) of water and drink. then i fill up the cup and drink that one more slowly...to make sure i get it all
it doesn't taste good, but not THAT bad. the onset usually takes about 50 minutes. at 40 or 45, i'm often thinking, "is it gonna work?" and by 50 or 55 min, i'm thinking "good thing i didn't take more"

i should try it in a capsule sometime. next i think i'll do it with orange juice. to mask the flavor
 
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Prea said:
What about mdma? Seems like that would give a more positive push to what you guys describe as an overall neutral experience.
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I've tried (~100mg) MDMA prior to a moderate dose of 2C-E and I was very surprised, it made the 2C-E stronger and change it's character. It was a lot more like "soul travel" than usual, if that means something to you.
 
I was wondering - does anyone else agree that 2C-E *snip* has a slightly "sticky" fluffiness to it? When I cut it up with a card/razor blade - it sticks to the blade - not like 2C-B at all...anyone else?

Also - tried 24mg oral dose of 2C-E 2 weeks, ago, was proper blinding - slight heav nausea on the come up til I hit peak, but then it was beaaaautiful!

Til everything got big confusing, then it just got annoying becuase I had to ask my brother what day it was... *oops* frazzled
 
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yup. it's sticky

i have a question.
is 2ce (or other 2c-xs or 2c-t-xs) thought to be "neurotoxic?"
 
Well there hasn't really been any research done on them, but I haven't heard anything about them being neurotoxic.
 
I believe there's been some research indicating that Phenethylamines contribute to the release of free radicals in humans. Whether they do so to a sufficient degree as to cause any tangible neurotoxicity I do not know, but I recall reading somewhere that the effect is easily combatted via the usual methods (drinkin' tea and eatin' blueberries, not exactly torture, right?). Maybe someone else can dig up the actual research I think I'm referring to/correct me if I'm being an idjit? :)
 
Hm so guys I've done some other psychs, 2c-i, low dose 2cb and dob, ket, mdma, etc....

I'm thinking 12mg of 2c-e would be a good starting point? Maybe 14? I'll probably take a 3-5mg dose first to make sure I don't have any negative reactions.
 
Prea said:
Hm so guys I've done some other psychs, 2c-i, low dose 2cb and dob, ket, mdma, etc....

I'm thinking 12mg of 2c-e would be a good starting point? Maybe 14? I'll probably take a 3-5mg dose first to make sure I don't have any negative reactions.
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Given the extent of your experience, and assuming that your test dose doesn't turn up an idiosyncratic reaction, I'd say 15-16 mg would be a pretty good starting point. My first dose was 18 mg, and while it wasn't overwhelming it was quite strong. In retrospect, starting a couple milligrams lower definitely would've made feeling out the material a little easier.
 
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